6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Just asking wether we will now be able to Jettison the ER4 Bomb Racks from the ETC501 on the Bf110, Ju-88 and Fw190 and have it as an Emergency Jettison Bombs Button as well. Because Right now nobody ever uses the 50kg Racks, simply because they are such an enormous Drag in an Emergency and were droppable in exactly such a case. Edited June 5, 2018 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann 1 1 16
Finkeren Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Yes please - when they can find the time to implement it. The Fw 190A8 should be able to use the same loadout, right? Maybe they’ll do it, when they model the Würger?
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted June 5, 2018 Author Posted June 5, 2018 Well, it's already implemented for the G-14's BR21s. 1
6./ZG26_Gielow Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 My alternative emergency bomb jettison is disarming the bombs fuse before releasing it manually. It is vital when you are taking off with 1000kg bombs or havier loads and you blow up your engines by mistake or trying to survive really short runways with obstacles.
klebor Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Gielow said: My alternative emergency bomb jettison is disarming the bombs fuse before releasing it manually. Yes but it is not going to release the rack itself which causes huge drag. At this moment 4x50kg set is not being used in multi just becase you can't jettison the rack after dropping your bombs. After implementing jettisonable racks for 210mm rockets the mechanics is implemented in the game so ability to jettison the 4x50kg rack should be a matter of time. 2
Field-Ops Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Did they really want their pilots to drop those bomb racks and rocket tubes? Seems the ground crews and logistics would have a fit after a while of that happening. Not that i'm against it i'm definitely +1 here.
Kurfurst Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 9 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said: Well, it's already implemented for the G-14's BR21s. Personally, I absolutely love that feature being in. Back in the time, I even recall having a bit of correspondence with Oleg about it, but I think it was simply too difficult to get it right at the time. Nice to see Jason’s team paid attention to such details.
klebor Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Field-Ops said: Did they really want their pilots to drop those bomb racks and rocket tubes? Empty rocket tubes was worth nothing and they were very cheap and easy to produce. Racks were more expensive/complicated but still nobody want to risk loosing whole expensive and complicated aircraft, sometimes with the pilot, because of tubes/rack worth tiny fraction of the plane and pilot. Note whole ETC501 was not jettisonable, just ER4 adapter causing the biggest drag. Edited June 6, 2018 by sereme1 2
Finkeren Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Field-Ops said: Did they really want their pilots to drop those bomb racks and rocket tubes? Seems the ground crews and logistics would have a fit after a while of that happening. Obviously they should only be dropped when the situation demanded it, but yeah, it's far preferable to having to fight with a severe performance deficit. Despite, the rocket tubes are literally just that, a tube with 4 hinges on it. The bomb racks are slightly more sophisticated, but not by much
MicEzo Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 16 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said: Just asking wether we will now be able to Jettison the ER4 Bomb Racks from the ETC501 on the Bf110, Ju-88 and Fw190 and have it as an Emergency Jettison Bombs Button as well. Because Right now nobody ever uses the 50kg Racks, simply because they are such an enormous Drag in an Emergency and were droppable in exactly such a case. Post that also in Suggestions. Now, when mechanics is there it should be just a few minutes of coding. 1
Field-Ops Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 12 hours ago, MicEzo said: Post that also in Suggestions. Now, when mechanics is there it should be just a few minutes of coding. Eh, there is also the possibility of the underside of the bomb racks not being modeled in the 3d model which will require another few minutes at least.
303_Bies Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 I heve written a post in "thread-to-gather-your-suggestions" 2
MicEzo Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 Since there is "Rumplast" handle (emergency release) inside the cockpit of FW190 and Bf110 and "jettison stories" button implemented to the game and work - there is no reason why it shouldn't be implement also.
dkoor Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 9:19 AM, Field-Ops said: Did they really want their pilots to drop those bomb racks and rocket tubes? Seems the ground crews and logistics would have a fit after a while of that happening. Not that i'm against it i'm definitely +1 here. Yeah, like some others, I suppose those were never really dropped unless there is some sort of air to air enemy situation unfolding where every kph more could mean difference between life and death... Also, I'd like to use 50kg'ers however I'm having such lousy time aiming with them that I gave up on those for JABO missions... 250kg is a sure bet. I'd consider using those in Ju-87 (dive bomber) as dive bombing is whole another game.
Bremspropeller Posted July 15, 2018 Posted July 15, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 9:19 AM, Field-Ops said: Did they really want their pilots to drop those bomb racks and rocket tubes? Seems the ground crews and logistics would have a fit after a while of that happening. Not that i'm against it i'm definitely +1 here. As said before: Depends. It's easier to replace the rack than replacing the airplane and pilot. Now if you were one of those guys that dropped the rack on every single mission, you were probably in for talk with the Staffelkapitän and some Malzkaffee and Panzerschokolade after a couple of days. Different story (related, though): During Reichsverteidigung, german droptanks were stancilled "Keine Bombe" (not a bomb) and there was a finder's reward for turning found bellytanks in to the authorities.
Yogiflight Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/15/2018 at 12:56 PM, Bremspropeller said: Now if you were one of those guys that dropped the rack on every single mission, you were probably in for talk with the Staffelkapitän and some Malzkaffee and Panzerschokolade after a couple of days. I very much doubt this. You won't get any Malzkaffee and Panzerschokolade
[110]xJammer Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 Anything more on this? I am curious to read a manual that explained how these worked and were operated?
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted August 28, 2018 Author Posted August 28, 2018 Gimme a Sec. In this Manual there are some Pics and Descriptions. https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/bf110e-bo-abwurfwaffenanlage-pdf.93973/ 1
Youtch Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 Investigating if bomb racks could be jettisoned, i found this old thread. Does anyone know if this has been implemented? Is there any plane in the game which can jettison bomb racks after use?
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 15, 2023 1CGS Posted November 15, 2023 No bomb racks can be jettisoned right now.
Charon Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 This would be really nice to have implemented. I agree with the original post: I almost never take these loadouts precisely because of the drag.
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted November 24, 2023 Author Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/15/2023 at 8:17 PM, Youtch said: Investigating if bomb racks could be jettisoned, i found this old thread. Does anyone know if this has been implemented? Is there any plane in the game which can jettison bomb racks after use? Thanks for digging it up again. It's still a pain the Backside to carry these Racks back home in the 88.
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