Blackhawk_FR Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Hello, In the flight characteristics, I've noticed the climb rate of 109 G14 is inferior to 109 G6's one (19,2 m/s against 20,1 for G6). So, for sure, it's not the value with 1,7ATA. I guess it's for 1,3ATA. Is it possible to: - Have for all the plane, the climb rate at maximum power? - Or, at least, the power corresponding to the the indicated climb rate? Thank you
CountZero Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Maybe this helps you, data from extracted ai folder in game files for caeroplane 109G6: Spoiler // // Bf109G6 // // [performance] MaxSpeed = 633.0 MaxClimbRate = 22.0 ServiceCeiling = 11800.0 MinStructureHealth = 0.863 MinEngineHealth = 0.6 EngineWarming = true TurnRate = 300.0, 67.0 ////// ClimbTime = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TIME> // 1.3 ATA, радиатор автомат ClimbTime = 0,0 ClimbTime = 1000,51 ClimbTime = 2000,103 ClimbTime = 3000,156 ClimbTime = 4000,211 ClimbTime = 5000,269 ClimbTime = 6000,331 ClimbTime = 7000,406 ClimbTime = 8000,495 ClimbTime = 9000,605 ClimbTime = 10000,754 ClimbTime = 11000,992 ////// MaxAltTAS = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TAS> // 1.3 ATA, радиатор автомат, 70% топлива MaxAltTAS = 0,505 MaxAltTAS = 1000,525 MaxAltTAS = 2000,547 MaxAltTAS = 3000,565 MaxAltTAS = 4000,581 MaxAltTAS = 5000,598 MaxAltTAS = 6000,615 MaxAltTAS = 7000,614 MaxAltTAS = 8000,610 MaxAltTAS = 9000,606 MaxAltTAS = 10000,596 MaxAltTAS = 11000,573 ////// turn time at altitude (m/s) = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TIME> TurnTimeAlt = 0,21.2 TurnTimeAlt = 1000,22.4 TurnTimeAlt = 2000,24.4 TurnTimeAlt = 3000,27.2 TurnTimeAlt = 4000,29.5 TurnTimeAlt = 5000,32.6 TurnTimeAlt = 6000,36.7 TurnTimeAlt = 7000,45.0 ////// optimal turn CAS at altitude= <float ALTITUDE>, <float CAS> TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 0,275 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 1000,275 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 2000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 3000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 4000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 5000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 6000,260 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 7000,260 MaxClimbCAS = 280 MaxClimbRate = 20.1 MaxAltitude = 11500.0 CruiseFuelRate = 2.06 //[л./мин.] 280 км/ч (MinCruiseCAS); 1000 м; 50% бака, без подвесов, стандартная атмосфера PriorityType = 1 //FIGHTER=1,HEAVY_FIGHTER=2,LIGHT_BOMBER=3,BOMBER=4,LIGHT_RECON=5,RECON=6,SHTURMOVIK=7,CARGO=8 [end] and caeroplane 109G14: Spoiler // // Bf109G14 // // [performance] MaxSpeed = 668.0 MaxClimbRate = 27.0 ServiceCeiling = 11500.0 MinStructureHealth = 0.863 MinEngineHealth = 0.6 EngineWarming = true TurnRate = 300.0, 67.0 ////// ClimbTime = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TIME> // 1.7 ATA, радиатор автомат ClimbTime = 0,0 ClimbTime = 1000,47 ClimbTime = 2000,87 ClimbTime = 3000,131 ClimbTime = 4000,178 ClimbTime = 5000,229 ClimbTime = 6000,285 ClimbTime = 7000,349 ClimbTime = 8000,421 ClimbTime = 9000,509 ClimbTime = 10000,625 ClimbTime = 11000,797 ////// MaxAltTAS = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TAS> // 1.7 ATA, радиатор автомат, 70% топлива MaxAltTAS = 0,576 MaxAltTAS = 1000,601 MaxAltTAS = 2000,610 MaxAltTAS = 3000,628 MaxAltTAS = 4000,649 MaxAltTAS = 5000,665 MaxAltTAS = 6000,667 MaxAltTAS = 7000,660 MaxAltTAS = 8000,650 MaxAltTAS = 9000,636 MaxAltTAS = 10000,621 MaxAltTAS = 11000,599 ////// turn time at altitude (m/s) = <float ALTITUDE>, <float TIME> TurnTimeAlt = 0,20.0 TurnTimeAlt = 1000,22.4 TurnTimeAlt = 2000,24.4 TurnTimeAlt = 3000,27.2 TurnTimeAlt = 4000,29.5 TurnTimeAlt = 5000,32.6 TurnTimeAlt = 6000,36.7 TurnTimeAlt = 7000,45.0 ////// optimal turn CAS at altitude= <float ALTITUDE>, <float CAS> TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 0,275 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 1000,275 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 2000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 3000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 4000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 5000,265 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 6000,260 TurnOptimal_CAS_Alt = 7000,260 MaxClimbCAS = 280 MaxClimbRate = 27.0 MaxAltitude = 11500.0 CruiseFuelRate = 2.05 //[л./мин.] 280 км/ч (MinCruiseCAS); 1000 м; 50% бака, без подвесов, стандартная атмосфера PriorityType = 1 //FIGHTER=1,HEAVY_FIGHTER=2,LIGHT_BOMBER=3,BOMBER=4,LIGHT_RECON=5,RECON=6,SHTURMOVIK=7,CARGO=8 [end] im guessing this is what ai is suposed to do regarding clime, you can use extractor in mod section and see more data if your interested so max climbe is 22 vs 27 then Edited June 3, 2018 by 77.CountZero
FTC_DerSheriff Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Thats what I measured in a manual climb in std atmosphere with 50% fuel and 1.7ata 1 1
unreasonable Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, F/JG300_Faucon said: Hello, In the flight characteristics, I've noticed the climb rate of 109 G14 is inferior to 109 G6's one (19,2 m/s against 20,1 for G6). So, for sure, it's not the value with 1,7ATA. I guess it's for 1,3ATA. Is it possible to: - Have for all the plane, the climb rate at maximum power? - Or, at least, the power corresponding to the the indicated climb rate? Thank you The tech specs page give the definitions: from the G-6 Note 1: the data provided is for international standard atmosphere (ISA). Note 2: flight performance ranges are given for possible aircraft mass ranges. Note 3: maximum speeds, climb rates and turn times are given for standard aircraft mass. Note 4: climb rates and turn times are given for Combat power. Ie combat power not emergency power. These are probably there in the Specifications page in game as well, I assume the G-14 was measured in the same way but I am too lazy to check.
Blackhawk_FR Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, unreasonable said: The tech specs page give the definitions: from the G-6 Note 1: the data provided is for international standard atmosphere (ISA). Note 2: flight performance ranges are given for possible aircraft mass ranges. Note 3: maximum speeds, climb rates and turn times are given for standard aircraft mass. Note 4: climb rates and turn times are given for Combat power. Ie combat power not emergency power. These are probably there in the Specifications page in game as well, I assume the G-14 was measured in the same way but I am too lazy to check. True, I didnt saw the Note 4. The thing is G14 can hold 1.7ATA for 2x10min, which is largely enough for combat. It would have been more interesting to have the data from that power.
HandyNasty Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 1:01 PM, 77.CountZero said: Maybe this helps you, data from extracted ai folder in game files for caeroplane 109G6: wait, where/how did you extract the data from?
CountZero Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 14 hours ago, =FSB=HandyNasty said: wait, where/how did you extract the data from? with this exteactor you can extract gtp files data from game and make mods or look at them 1
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