I'm more ticked than a stray dog in LA right now...

[Fang333333]

Friends,

Pilot's,

Lend me your rears.

 

So I am a heavy supporter of the sim. (I always an early access buyer, and I generally pay full price). SO, last night I made time in my life to unwind and play my ongoing campaign. I've had a hell of week and I needed to shoot down some AI Bolsheviks to get my mind off things.

 

I could not log in ( I figured it was due to the update), No problem I'll just go into "Offline mode"

 

AND IT IS FOR THIS VERY FIRST TIME I DISCOVERED YOU CANNOT PLAY CAMPAIGN IN OFFLINE MODE!!

 

What is this fresh hell? Why in the name of all that is holy would I not be able to play what I rightfully own!?

What if I lose internet access? What if where I am at they do not have internet? What if there's a GD Zombie apocalypse and I need 109 training!?

Why am I always at the mercy of some server? I prefer to self-serve thank you.

I honestly do not purchase any game that  requires online access, had I known Il-2's dirty secret I would have stayed away.

 

Sincerely,

A not happy camper

 

PO'd Box 13

Frustrationville, USA

 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Fang333333

[Gambit21]

Missions are not generated locally.

[Moebelwagen]

Same system as in RoF - if you want to use the (dynamic) campaign, you have to be online. Only static, scripted campaigns work offline.

[Fang333333]

Good to know Gambit,

Is it not possible to have an offline random mission egg scrambler!?

I'll bring the hot sauce, just let me fly my dang 109 in Stalingrad!

[RedKestrel]

5 minutes ago, Fang333333 said:

Friends,

Pilot's,

Lend me your rears.

 

So I am a heavy supporter of the sim. (I always an early access buyer, and I generally pay full price). SO, last night I made time in my life to unwind and play my ongoing campaign. I've had a hell of week and I needed to shoot down some AI Bolsheviks to get my mind off things.

 

I could not log in ( I figured it was due to the update), No problem I'll just go into "Offline mode"

 

AND IT IS FOR THIS VERY FIRST TIME I DISCOVERED YOU CANNOT PLAY CAMPAIGN IN OFFLINE MODE!!

 

What is this fresh hell? Why in the name of all that is holy would I not be able to play what I rightfully own!?

What if I lose internet access? What if where I am at they do not have internet? What if there's a GD Zombie apocalypse and I need 109 training!?

I honestly do not purchase any game that  requires online access, had I known Il-2's dirty secret I would have stayed away.

 

Sincerely,

A not happy camper

 

PO'd Box 13

Frustrationville, USA

 

Yeah, if I move to some of the more rural areas near where I live my ability to play this game might go down the tubes.

Apparently, because the Career mode missions are generated server-side, Career mode can't be used offline. Not sure why the developers chose to implement career mode this way, surely missions can be generated on the local machine?

The game's entire setup basically requires an internet connection, at least periodically, which I'm also unhappy with. Basically its to verify you can only access the parts of the game you've paid for with your account.

In any case, while you can't play the career mode offline, you can apparently use Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator when offline because of the way it works (caveat - I have not done so, I've just heard this from other users). So, while not a solution if you're invested in a particular career, at least if you lose your internet connection you can still do campaign missions of some kind. I hope this salves the wound a little.

I really hope we get some way of having the career mode be local to the machine at some point...

[Thad]

Fang, please check your bad attitude at the hangar doors. ?

 

To the best of my knowledge, this has always been the way things have been setup. You should know this. Please quit your whining. 

Edited May 24, 2018 by Thad

[Gambit21]

Second on Pats generator Fang.

[Fang333333]

Thank you Thad for your enlightening information.

..

OMG And I cannot log in now. It keeps telling "Wrong Password" /or activate access code.

but I'm all activated...

 

EDIT: NVM I'm in. I think I was somehow in between versions. Folks if your having any issues logging in make sure the Steam updater has launched and you hit "play" from the  Steam update box. I never had that issue before and it wasn't working despite multiple restarts. After updating in Steam it works now.

 

Exciting! I'm still mad about the offline thing but I will definitely check out Pats Generator!

Edited May 24, 2018 by Fang333333

[RedKestrel]

18 minutes ago, Fang333333 said:

Thank you Thad for your enlightening information.

..

OMG And I cannot log in now. It keeps telling "Wrong Password" /or activate access code.

but I'm all activated...

Some others have had this issue after the update. Try erasing your username and password and re-entering manually. You may have to restart your machine. Perhaps uncheck 'remember password' this one time.

If you are going through Steam, I think someone mentioned updating the steam app and then re-entering username/password to get in. It appears this only affects some people for their first time logging in after the update.

[Fang333333]

Thanks Red, Just got in. 

 

I think for me it may have been a Steam/Il-2 issue. I updated original post as to what I did to get in

[seafireliv]

I was going to make a thread on this, but here will do:

 

I find it wrong and inefficient for the User player that we cannot play the Career Campaign in Offline mode. Yes, i know the missions are generated online, so I am told,  but they can also be coded to generate missions Offline like many sims have done in the past. Also I know there`s a Mod made that does this and it`s fine, but I wish to stick to THIS career that`s officially part of the actual game, knowing it is fully coded for it.

 

It`s infuriating to lose connection, as I did today, when BOS`s server connection was lost. This has happened a few times over this and last week. There are many other good reasons to enable this for the Player user, all which I can list, devs, just ask.

 

I ask the Devs again, politely...

 

Please enable the Career Campaign to be flown Offline. Thankyou.

Edited May 24, 2018 by seafireliv

[Gambit21]

You understand the difference between “enable” and “re-code” yes?

[LukeFF]

11 minutes ago, seafireliv said:

I ask the Devs again, politely...

 

Please enable the Career Campaign to be flown Offline. Thankyou.

 

Ain't gonna happen, dude. Either accept that, or use Pat Wilson's generator for offline use.

[Gambit21]

What Luke said.

[Dakpilot]

The fact that Missions are generated server side allows them to be updated/modified/corrected without the need for a patch

 

it has been this way for many years since RoF days

 

If there is a zombie apocalypse it will be a shame, but there is always PWCG for that eventuality

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

[RedKestrel]

Just now, Dakpilot said:

The fact that Missions are generated server side allows them to be updated/modified/corrected without the need for a patch

 

it has been this way for many years since RoF days

 

If there is a zombie apocalypse it will be a shame, but there is always PWCG for that eventuality

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

I honestly hadn't considered fixes to the mission types. At least there's a good reason for generating things server side...I think I would still like the option to generate missions locally if necessary, but I understand. At least we have PWCG. 

[Wolfram-Harms]

2 hours ago, Fang333333 said:

OMG And I cannot log in now. It keeps telling "Wrong Password" /or activate access code.

 

(computer-generated voice:) "Please take off that silly helmet and show your face to the "BoX Biometric Facial Recognition System" - thank you, Sir!"

 

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I'm still mad about the offline thing but I will definitely check out Pats Generator!

 

Fang, if you want to have an offline campaign, Pat's PWCG is top notch! Highly recommended!

[-TBC-AeroAce]

4 minutes ago, ChiefWH said:

 

What improvements have been made due to this feature so far? I still struggle to catch up with the flight, there is also never enough time to set trims and levers in a p40 before takeoff being two examples. What has been ..

 

I am with you about the online only thing but I really don't understand the thing about not having enough time to set up before the planes start to roll.

 

If you have the controls set out nicely it does not take longer than 10 secs to set trim and rads and for me the planes can take quite a long time to start rolling. They do the whole flare back and forth thing which takes some time for me at least. 

[dburne]

Online for their campaigns/career system has always been a requirement due to the way they are handled, from their server side.

This dates back  to ROF. 

 

Before BoS was released, I had downloaded and played ROF a good bit.

Have flown BoX now for quite a number of hours in SP mode, and have already logged many hours in the new Career Mode.

 

Maybe I have just been extremely lucky, but I have yet to start the game and go do my SP flying and have it not be available to me.

Only time I have had that type of thing happen was when my Comcast Internet would occasionally go down, and even that is pretty rare for me.

 

Now that is certainly not to say for others this is not a larger problem for.  1CGS have always said if something should happen in the future where they were no longer developing this sim, a way would be provided so the game could continue to be played. Maybe someday they might have the time and desire to make this a possibility , I imagine they would have to dedicate a good amount of resources to make that happen though.

If one is really passionate about this, might want to put up a post in the Suggestions forum also.

[unreasonable]

"Fixes to the mission types..." lol 

 

There is no practical/technical reason why the software that generates the missions could not be on the players PC along with everything else, and updated in the same way. This is a form of DRM, that is all.  For MP obviously they can check your game - this is the equivalent for SP.

 

I do not particularly like it, especially if I get some sort of intermittent internet disruption. Fortunately this is rarer now, but it used to interfere with my enjoyment of RoF, since I would sometimes fly a 45 minute iron man patrol of hair-raising intensity, only to have the program refuse to save the results because the net was down.

 

If 1C feel they have to do this to limit piracy, I can live with DRM.  Don't have to like it though.  

[-TBC-AeroAce]

22 minutes ago, ChiefWH said:

I tend to take a while setting up, checking and setting things, some of it needless role-play I guess (checking surfaces move and engine temperatures), so the fault perhaps does lie with me there. But as no.3 in a P40 fight, without HUD/tech help to show positions, it feels rushed.

 

 

Ahh that might explain it. If you are not using tech chat I could see it would take longer to set it all up.

 

I guess you will have to just learn roughly how long of a button press it takes to set each thing. TBH you don't have to get it exactly accurate, but ballpark it and then for the trim just feel what the plane is doing and fine tune it and for the rads again just ballpark it and look at the temps.

Edited May 25, 2018 by AeroAce