VR headset

[D_Konig]

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

 

I just took the leap and ordered an oculus rift - been playing alot again lately and really want to see what this is like. 

 

Is there anything I should know or do setup wise before hand? It wont get here until thursday but if my 2 decades of PC gaming have taught me anything its that nothing ever works perfectly right away lol never. Hours of tweaking are required almost every time.

 

My system should handle it fine. I have a usb 3.0 setup and extra hub for my hotas ports. Ive been using track ir. I just got a geforce gtx 1080 a couple months ago so I needed to justify its existence haha

 

Thanks guys! Looking forward to this.

[RAY-EU]

Shipping the HTC VIVE PRO !!!

The 10% patch  correction of the minimize image will be available before end of June beginning July

with release of the GTX 2080TI ...with the Bf G14 to counter the Spitfire Mk IX ? Impreset !

( in DCS it would  be seem to be maximized more bigger the image for the maximzation may be for the maximzation patch for the F18 C with the CVN-78).

Waiting  also for the Pimax 8K about November for the Me 262A 1a/U1? And the Panzer V ...

Edited May 15, 2018 by RAY-EU

[D_Konig]

Uhh... what?

[angus26]

10 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

Uhh... what?

I’m in the same boat, no worries. I tried out vr with il2, and it’s very enjoyable, I’m not too much into the super technical stuff, and got no clue about what he said, but you will like vr.

[BP_Lizard]

Head to the official VR forum. Lots of useful tips and info there. I have a Vive. Same difference, right? ;-) Once you overcome the initial VR sickness, you'll love it.

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/109-virtual-reality-and-vr-controllers/

[D_Konig]

Thanks! I'm really looking forward to it. I hope I dont get sick ahah ive a pretty tough stomach for motion sickness etc.

 

I put off buying one forever but boredom and a good price on a used one came up so.. here we are. 

 

I like cliffs of dover as well, the games are just so immersive as it is I cant wait to see what VR is like. Always wanted to fly, this is as close as I'll get lol

Oh and about this "screen door effect" how noticeable is that? I feel like it would drive me nuts but everyone seeme pretty pleased with the VR experience.

[BP_Lizard]

Take things slowly. I started with short, relaxed sight-seeing flights. No evasive maneuvers. 

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

2 hours ago, BP_Lizard said:

Take things slowly. I started with short, relaxed sight-seeing flights. No evasive maneuvers. 

 

Agreed, If this is your first VR experience definitely take it easy. 

 

If it gets too much take a break.  Don't push yourself to full sickness or it will take hours/a whole day to recover instead of minutes. Everyone is different regarding tolerance for artificial locomotion.  Try a different game that does not involve artificial locomotion and then come back to IL2 again and slowly start adding in a few rolls or loops. 

[TheWarsimmer]

With a 1080 you should be good to supersample, so be sure to do it because it really helps to spot planes. Also, don't set AA in the settings above x2. If you do x4 not only is it too demanding, but it also makes it more difficult to distinguish distant planes because the AA makes things too blurry. Finally, I would suggest getting the 3D Migoto mod. You can 5x zoom with it, and that's essential in VR. Just map it to a joystick button with joy2key or something similar. It's a blast. Have fun!

[dburne]

8 hours ago, D_Konig said:

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

 

I just took the leap and ordered an oculus rift - been playing alot again lately and really want to see what this is like. 

 

Is there anything I should know or do setup wise before hand? It wont get here until thursday but if my 2 decades of PC gaming have taught me anything its that nothing ever works perfectly right away lol never. Hours of tweaking are required almost every time.

 

My system should handle it fine. I have a usb 3.0 setup and extra hub for my hotas ports. Ive been using track ir. I just got a geforce gtx 1080 a couple months ago so I needed to justify its existence haha

 

Thanks guys! Looking forward to this.

 

Congrats, you are in for a treat!

 

Have a read here also, perhaps might help a little.

 

[HunDread]

10 hours ago, D_Konig said:

Thanks! I'm really looking forward to it. I hope I dont get sick ahah ive a pretty tough stomach for motion sickness etc.

 

I put off buying one forever but boredom and a good price on a used one came up so.. here we are. 

 

I like cliffs of dover as well, the games are just so immersive as it is I cant wait to see what VR is like. Always wanted to fly, this is as close as I'll get lol

Oh and about this "screen door effect" how noticeable is that? I feel like it would drive me nuts but everyone seeme pretty pleased with the VR experience.

 

Regarding screendoor - it is very much noticeable on current gen devices. Especially coming from monitors it will stand out. Same goes for the low resolution. The two things connect to each other anyway. So be prepared for a bit of disappointment at the beginning.

 

With that said, probably I would never be able to go back to monitors for Il-2. The pros sooner or later outweigh the cons. 

[D_Konig]

What do you mean coming from monitors?

 

EDIT: oh i get it nevermind lol

 

As long as it doesnt distract from the experience, I hope I enjoy it lol

Edited May 15, 2018 by D_Konig

[BeastyBaiter]

From a technical aspect, the Rift is designed to be reasonably idiot proof. That said, it does have the Saitek/Logitech X-55/56 problem of massive power draw. You're going to want your Rift on it's very own USB 3 controller with absolutely nothing else on it due to that power draw. For a no external hub setup, I recommend 2x PCI-E USB expansion cards with a SATA or Molex connection to the power supply. That should give you enough power to play around with the Rift, 2 sensors, a HOTAS, pedals and keyboard/mouse without having stuff randomly switch off or otherwise glitch out.

 

In terms of using it, the first few hours are going to make you queasy but you should get used to it after a while. Just keep your sessions brief, 1 flight at a time in QMB maybe for the first few days of use. Obviously, the more of these sessions you make per day the quicker you'll overcome the motion sickness. This isn't a problem with the Rift, it's a problem of doing loops/rolls and other fun stuff and your brain thinking it's actually there instead of knowing it's just looking at a screen sitting atop a desk. Puking your guts out is just part of the immersion.

 

On a related note, be sure to install RoboRecall. It's free with the Rift and touch controllers and is an absolute blast.

[Sketch]

I have the Vive Pro and have played with the original Vive. The resolution is better on the Pro. You can ID targets pretty well, especially with the vr mod in these forums. I will admit the screen door effect is still there, but less present. Also, your neck is going to hurting like hell for the first two to three days. No assisted"head turning" like with IR Tracker; it's one to one for head turning. I would also venture to say that I have a bigger blind spot on my six because I can't turn completely 180* behind me quickly. Having said that, the ability to snap shoot a target, track them with ease, and fly in perfect formation is so rewarding. You can do these things because you have depth perception with VR.

 

Switching to VR is like, the difference of walking up a set of stairs while looking through a 2D plane (like a monitor), you don't know where the next step is. You can guess, and after awhile get good at guessing the exact spot of that next step. But with VR, you're walking up those stairs while looking through a 3D plane. You can see the steps clearly, you have all that dept perception, and there's no more guess work. 

 

Additionally, my VR device has never lost it's tracking; unlike my IR Tracker would... right when I'm on someone six too! Never again with VR!

[dburne]

I just spent literally about all day in VR flying BoX in my Kuban Career.

And I am just as amazed now as I was early on with my Rift, can't seem to get enough.

 

In fact earlier today, I used the monitor to finally set my pilot head more proper for the Spit for me which I have been meaning to do, and I thought wow I used to game on this?

Lol, can't go back to monitor.

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2018 by dburne

[Sketch]

I should add... With my Vive Pro, I can actually see under the cowling of my i16. lol

[SCG_Schneemann]

My input is I will never go back...  But to get it set up correctly, actually follow the setup procedures. Take it slow, adjust things to where they work really well in the Oculus setup, run through the little Wall-E tutorial thing, and when ready, THEN get into IL2 BOS. I am running through steam VR, so read up on how to get that setup, and read Jason's setup guide. THere are a lot of little things that shouldn't work but do when all married together. For instance, 4K textures and things. Seems like it should be bad, but it's good. I actually am running my rift on Ultra settings and have no real issues, but overclocked both my 980TI card and my 6700K processor. It's a fiddling process, but once you get it right it's beautiful to fly in VR. As dburne has already stated, it's just like day 1 with it - it never gets old. Good luck! And ask questions - people here are always ready to help you get it tweaked.

[Wolf8312]

9 hours ago, dburne said:

I just spent literally about all day in VR flying BoX in my Kuban Career.

And I am just as amazed now as I was early on with my Rift, can't seem to get enough.

 

In fact earlier today, I used the monitor to finally set my pilot head more proper for the Spit for me which I have been meaning to do, and I thought wow I used to game on this?

Lol, can't go back to monitor.

 

 

 

 

Thats interesting I always want to get my pilots head a little more forward to be honest as it gives a better sense of how cramped the plane is and you cannot generally see your invisible body! 

 

So is there a way to set my pilot further forward by default?

On 5/15/2018 at 8:08 AM, D_Konig said:

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

 

I just took the leap and ordered an oculus rift - been playing alot again lately and really want to see what this is like. 

 

Is there anything I should know or do setup wise before hand? It wont get here until thursday but if my 2 decades of PC gaming have taught me anything its that nothing ever works perfectly right away lol never. Hours of tweaking are required almost every time.

 

My system should handle it fine. I have a usb 3.0 setup and extra hub for my hotas ports. Ive been using track ir. I just got a geforce gtx 1080 a couple months ago so I needed to justify its existence haha

 

Thanks guys! Looking forward to this.

 

Because you won’t find Goldilocks’s elusive porridge for a long time, or know what works best in terms of performance vs graphical fidelity, be prepared for endless tweakin, and frustration.

 

VR is an OCD nightmare so if you’re one of those gamers who needs 60fps or else they will turn the computer off, or demands everything running on ultra, be prepared for a lot of mental torment! 

 

First thing you should do is to go to the mission generator, and fly over stalingrad in the early hours of the morning with a cold air conditioner blowing into your face!

 

Also don’t underestimate how much immersion can be added by a jetseat or buttkicker combined with good sound. Very loud speakers (in front of me where engine is) I find are best though the least practical (noisy) so good headphones come in second.

 

Air conditioner is almost a nessisity in the summer time if you live somewhere hot and humid!

[dburne]

3 hours ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

Thats interesting I always want to get my pilots head a little more forward to be honest as it gives a better sense of how cramped the plane is and you cannot generally see your invisible body! 

 

So is there a way to set my pilot further forward by default?

 

 

Note: Must be done on monitor only, will need to launch BoS without VR selected.

From the manual:

 

 Adjusting the default head position:
1. Ensure any head tracking software (such as TrackIR) is disabled.
2. Make sure you cockpit view is centered by pressing the numpad 5 key (Pilot head: snap position center).
3. Adjust your camera view to the left and to the right with the Delete (Move pilot head left) and the End keys (Move pilot head right), respectively.
4. Adjust your camera view forward and backward with the Insert (Move pilot head forward) and the Home keys (Move pilot head backward), respectively.
5. Adjust your camera view up and down with the Page Up (Move pilot head up) and the Page Down keys (Move pilot head down), respectively.
6. Once you are satisfied with your changes, press the F10 key (Save current corrections in head snap position). If at any time before this step you want to revert to the default head position, press the numpad 5 key.

Edited May 16, 2018 by dburne

[HunDread]

4 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Note: Must be done on monitor only, will need to launch BoS without VR selected.

From the manual:

 

 Adjusting the default head position:
1. Ensure any head tracking software (such as TrackIR) is disabled.
2. Make sure you cockpit view is centered by pressing the numpad 5 key (Pilot head: snap position center).
3. Adjust your camera view to the left and to the right with the Delete (Move pilot head left) and the End keys (Move pilot head right), respectively.
4. Adjust your camera view forward and backward with the Insert (Move pilot head forward) and the Home keys (Move pilot head backward), respectively.
5. Adjust your camera view up and down with the Page Up (Move pilot head up) and the Page Down keys (Move pilot head down), respectively.
6. Once you are satisfied with your changes, press the F10 key (Save current corrections in head snap position). If at any time before this step you want to revert to the default head position, press the numpad 5 key.

 

Might be an overkill but optionally you can first go into camera settings and dial back the related movement speeds (I'm not at home and don't remember exactly which ones). Mine are set to only 1 which makes fine tuning very easy.

[D_Konig]

Thanks for all this info guys, sounds great! Should be here tomorrow, cant wait to try this out!

 

Thanks for the heads up on USB ports and the setup guides. 

 

Im not THAT ocd haha but a little. As long as it looks pretty good and runs well, im more interested in the experience. Fps from 60-50 i dont even notice or care haha i grew up on MS DOS and windows 3.1. Im an OG! I remember when a machineb16 MEGABYTES of Ram waa 2500 dollars lol 

 

Everything is already amazing as it is. Cant wait!

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Low FPS in VR is very different to low FPS on a flat screen.

 

One more day and you will understand why. 

 

Hopefully the immersion wins you over.  Your in for a wild ride. 

[D_Konig]

So it only came with 1 sensor, does a second one make a big difference or will just the one cut it?

[BP_Lizard]

For seated games such as flight sim or racing, one sensor is more than sufficient. Although it doesn't hurt to have a couple more if you plan to use it for room scaling. 

[dburne]

1 hour ago, D_Konig said:

So it only came with 1 sensor, does a second one make a big difference or will just the one cut it?

 

Um did you order a new Rift, and if so from where?

If so, it should have come with the Touch Controllers and two sensors.

[D_Konig]

No it only came with one sensor and an xbox controller.

 

My motherboard is incompatible anyway apparently, it doesn't support the exact correct specific USB required so I'm SOL until I go out and buy a bunch of more parts and tear my PC apart and jump through some more hoops.

 

Getting pretty tired of this, honestly. It's been at least a decade since I was able to install a damn game or anything and have it just work. Always requires hours of fucking around and this kind of thing. Really irritating, I'm probly just going to send it back.

[dburne]

11 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

No it only came with one sensor and an xbox controller.

 

My motherboard is incompatible anyway apparently, it doesn't support the exact correct specific USB required so I'm SOL until I go out and buy a bunch of more parts and tear my PC apart and jump through some more hoops.

 

Getting pretty tired of this, honestly. It's been at least a decade since I was able to install a damn game or anything and have it just work. Always requires hours of fucking around and this kind of thing. Really irritating, I'm probly just going to send it back.

 

Did you run the compatibility checker from Oculus when ordering? I did so and it flagged my onboard USB3 ports as known to be problematic with the Rift.

I ordered an Inatek Powered USB 3.0 PCIe card when I ordered the Rift, it was recommended by Oculus. Have not no troubles with my sensors and HDMI usb running through it.

https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Express-15-Pin-Connector-KT5001/dp/B00FPIMJEW

 

It is really quite easy to install.

 

I am still perplexed on your one sensor, I though all Rifts now came with the Touch Controllers and two sensors.

But yes for sitting games like flight sims, one will be fine. Those Touch controllers are quite awesome though.

Edited May 17, 2018 by dburne

[D_Konig]

55 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Did you run the compatibility checker from Oculus when ordering? I did so and it flagged my onboard USB3 ports as known to be problematic with the Rift.

I ordered an Inatek Powered USB 3.0 PCIe card when I ordered the Rift, it was recommended by Oculus. Have not no troubles with my sensors and HDMI usb running through it.

https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Express-15-Pin-Connector-KT5001/dp/B00FPIMJEW

 

It is really quite easy to install.

 

I am still perplexed on your one sensor, I though all Rifts now came with the Touch Controllers and two sensors.

But yes for sitting games like flight sims, one will be fine. Those Touch controllers are quite awesome though.

 

I think it was a refurbished used one. I got it from the amazon warehouse.

 

Im just tired of this ongoing battle just to play a damn video game. I already had to spend days just trying to get il2 to boot up again. Tech support was useless and no help - i had to format my entire PC and upgrade to windows 10 to resolve the issue, even though it worked fine for years. 

 

Just moving my desk to unplug everything to get at my pc and just hope and pray that this pci card will even fit and function properly makes me want to blow my brains out. 

 

Im a disabled veteran and my brain doesnt work very well anymore so this kind if thing drives me nuts to a level I cant even put into words. Its not worth the aggrivation.

[dburne]

13 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

 

I think it was a refurbished used one. I got it from the amazon warehouse.

 

Im just tired of this ongoing battle just to play a damn video game. I already had to spend days just trying to get il2 to boot up again. Tech support was useless and no help - i had to format my entire PC and upgrade to windows 10 to resolve the issue, even though it worked fine for years. 

 

Just moving my desk to unplug everything to get at my pc and just hope and pray that this pci card will even fit and function properly makes me want to blow my brains out. 

 

Im a disabled veteran and my brain doesnt work very well anymore so this kind if thing drives me nuts to a level I cant even put into words. Its not worth the aggrivation.

 

Sorry to hear, I can relate as I am disabled now as well in both sight and mind. It can certainly make for some tough days, and things like this can get very aggravating for sure. I am planning a new PC build later in the year, but dreading it as I know it will not be as easy as all my previous builds were before I became disabled.

If you want to return the Rift  and say heck with it, that is very understandable.

 

I will say also if you are interested, installing that USB 3.0 powered PCIe card is not all that hard and can be done usually in minutes. If your PC is easily accessible, only thing you would want to unplug is the power cord to power supply to ensure no power running to system when putting card in. And of course as long as you have a free PCIe slot, along with a power connector from your power supply to plug into the card.

I am half blind and had the thing installed in about 15 minutes.  Plugged power cord back in, booted up, Windows 10 found and installed the drivers and I was good to go.

 

If not hopefully Amazon will take it back? I know my wife orders a lot from Amazon and she never has any trouble with returns, they are pretty good at those.

 

Best of luck whichever way you go!

 

Edited May 17, 2018 by dburne

[D_Konig]

Im not sure my motherboard even has room for another card its pretty tight in there. I tried installing an SSD a few months back but there wasnt enough connections, I would have had to remove my disc drive or something and use that connection.

 

Theres a spot across town that sells pci usb cards but its a coin toss if it will even work since apparently the rift doesnt work with a ton of common usb boards. 

 

I also dont want to wait another week on amazon to deliver something that might not even work, theres 100 things that will probly need to be addressed next. Motherboard problem, power supply problem, theres always something.

[dburne]

Well if you have USB 3 ports you could always try it anyway and see how it does just to check.

If no go, then return it.

 

[D_Konig]

Does it need 3 or 2 ports? 

 

I can't even get the software to install, its because the USB board is incompatible as far as I can tell, nothing else makes any sense. Tried installing in safe mode with networking, no difference. Installer always quits and says there was an error and to reboot the system. The compatibility tool says theres an issue with the USB board and the one I have I found was listed on a reddit thread as incompatible, despite being super common so I don't know. 

 

Im going to pick up one across town tomorrow and see if that helps, if not I'll be forced to just wait a week on one from amazon and try again then. 

 

Remember back in the 90s when things just... worked?  I honestly can't remember the last time I installed a PC game or hardware or anything that didn't require hours and hours of fuckery to get it working, at a minimum. My trackIR, hotas setup, everything was always a nightmare. New graphics cards, memory sticks whatever it is - there's always some other issue, its like house of cards here.

Edited May 18, 2018 by D_Konig

[[CPT]Crunch]

Let me guess, your running Win 7 and it's whining about hotfix's that aren't installed, but really they are.

 

Quote

So there is a trick to skip that part of the setup. Open the command prompt (and navigate to the folder where the setup file exists) and run this:

OculusSetup.exe /bypassHotfixCheck

However, if the hotfixes *are* missing you will have lots of problems after that point.

That will do the trick, they refuse to fix the bug for whatever reason.

[Drum]

U need USB 3 for VR

[D_Konig]

No, Im running windows 10. The bypass trick didn't work either

Edited May 18, 2018 by D_Konig

[Nibbio]

Back in the 90's things just worked? I remember things like autoexec.bat and config.sys and trying to free enough of those 640kb of memory to run some game in b/w at 10 fps...

Come on, stop whining and start tinkering with your PC like a real man!

[Guest deleted@134347]

11 hours ago, D_Konig said:

Does it need 3 or 2 ports? 

 

I can't even get the software to install, its because the USB board is incompatible as far as I can tell, nothing else makes any sense. Tried installing in safe mode with networking, no difference. Installer always quits and says there was an error and to reboot the system. The compatibility tool says theres an issue with the USB board and the one I have I found was listed on a reddit thread as incompatible, despite being super common so I don't know. 

 

Im going to pick up one across town tomorrow and see if that helps, if not I'll be forced to just wait a week on one from amazon and try again then. 

 

Remember back in the 90s when things just... worked?  I honestly can't remember the last time I installed a PC game or hardware or anything that didn't require hours and hours of fuckery to get it working, at a minimum. My trackIR, hotas setup, everything was always a nightmare. New graphics cards, memory sticks whatever it is - there's always some other issue, its like house of cards here.

 

90's when things just worked? Are you on something?   I remember I had to tweak my PC, autoexec.bat, himem, etc all other shit to run ANY game. 3D games though, not the flat console ports. We have it easy nowadays.

 

Btw, 2 years ago when I got my Oculus it had very relax requirements for the USB ports, i.e. it ran on USB 2.0 just fine. However, people started to complain about tracking issues, camera disconnects, etc. Technically your sensor can run on USB 2.0, but Oculus turn it off to avoid any sort of support escalation. Oculus has a lot of pro's going for its HMD, however the sensor/usb requirements are fucking idiotic, so in agreement with you there. I upgraded to 8700k CPU with MSI Z370 motherboard with its cream of the crop USB ports and still had tracking issues, it's was infuriating.  So I switched to VivePro and it's a night&day difference in supportability and tracking.

 

[dburne]

That is one thing I absolutely can not complain about with my Rift, it has had very solid tracking for me since day 1.

Guess I have been lucky in that regard.

[D_Konig]

The board I got passed the compatibility check so we'll see if the install works. I had to disable my other one (which my mouse keyboard and USB hub for HOTAS are hooked up to) in order to get the stupid installer to work. So far so good, hopefully I can just re-enable it when its done and swap out the 3.0 ports for the oculus equipment and it wont throw a tantrum about the other board.

10 hours ago, Nibbio said:

Back in the 90's things just worked? I remember things like autoexec.bat and config.sys and trying to free enough of those 640kb of memory to run some game in b/w at 10 fps...

Come on, stop whining and start tinkering with your PC like a real man!

 

I have 3 kids under 5, PTSD and the worlds most retarded neighbors. My patience is already razor thin! I don't want to risk the life of my PC via tinkering which will set me into an atomic rage and within 5 minutes im smashing or eating pieces of the motherboard in a bloodlust rage.

 

Maybe I was lucky in the 90s lol didn't take that much sweating to get things to work, although now that I think about it I am getting flashbacks to sleepless nights trying to get command and conquer and civilization 2 to run on windows 3.1 lol maybe it's like the army - it was mostly awful but for some reason you only remember the good times haha

 

Scratch that - installer still failed anyway.

 

HOW MANY LIVES MUST I SACRIFICE TO MAKE THIS BLOODY THING WORK

 

I need an old priest, a young priest, a broken bottle and a dead monkey...

Edited May 18, 2018 by D_Konig

[Guest deleted@134347]

18 minutes ago, D_Konig said:

The board I got passed the compatibility check so we'll see if the install works. I had to disable my other one (which my mouse keyboard and USB hub for HOTAS are hooked up to) in order to get the stupid installer to work. So far so good, hopefully I can just re-enable it when its done and swap out the 3.0 ports for the oculus equipment and it wont throw a tantrum about the other board.

 

I have 3 kids under 5, PTSD and the worlds most retarded neighbors. My patience is already razor thin! I don't want to risk the life of my PC via tinkering which will set me into an atomic rage and within 5 minutes im smashing or eating pieces of the motherboard in a bloodlust rage.

 

Maybe I was lucky in the 90s lol didn't take that much sweating to get things to work, although now that I think about it I am getting flashbacks to sleepless nights trying to get command and conquer and civilization 2 to run on windows 3.1 lol maybe it's like the army - it was mostly awful but for some reason you only remember the good times haha

 

Scratch that - installer still failed anyway.

 

HOW MANY LIVES MUST I SACRIFICE TO MAKE THIS BLOODY THING WORK

 

I need an old priest, a young priest, a broken bottle and a dead monkey...

 

i hear you, man.. 3 kids under 5 and you dare to have some personal "me" time? No wonder you have PTSD (kiddin')..  I have an almost 9 and almost 4 year olds and I can only fly when both of them are in bed.

 

did you check this stupid site?

 

https://support.oculus.com/1798990480336565/

 

it has a link to the supposedly 'confirmed working' pci usb card

https://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Superspeed-Ports-PCI-Expansion/dp/B00B6ZCNGM