stupor-mundi Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) A few days ago I had a couple of windows 10 updates in a row -- I must've lagged behind a bit. I then seemed to have issues to start IL-2, but realized later this had to do with my habit of switching to other applications with alt-tab, usually the browser, while the sim slowly loads. It emerged that I could switch away from IL-2, no problem, but when switching back, everything was frozen. I realised over time that it was possible to get back, when waiting patiently for over a minute. Of course that's not always practical. A Symptom of this issue is that the blue, donut shaped windows 10 wait pointer shows up when switching back to the game (I had not seen that cursor in the sim before). Anyone else get this? I wouldn't mind so much, if it wasn't for opentrack occasionally crashing, which had meant quickly switching away from IL-2, to restart opentrack. That's now not possible. Edited May 13, 2018 by stupor-mundi
Luftschiff Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I have also had this issue since the creator's update, windowed or full screen makes no difference in terms of freeze time (~20-40 seconds by my estimate). No attempted solutions so far have affected the issue in any way. I thought it might be some leftover reshade/sweetFX files causing the extra load but no luck there either.
stupor-mundi Posted May 14, 2018 Author Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Just checked, I seem to have used windowed, at least since I reinstalled. I can switch to fullscreen if there is some expectation that it might be better. However, I use a laptop with an external screen, so I'm a bit unsure what meaning 'fullscreen' would have in that context. I don't want the sim to span both screens. Forgot to mention, since the windows update I also have (fairly often) laggy mouse (mouse pointer sticks to the screen for a second or so), not in IL-2 but in various applications, or even just moving the mouse across the desktop. No idea if that's related. Edited May 14, 2018 by stupor-mundi
stupor-mundi Posted May 14, 2018 Author Posted May 14, 2018 was just on reddit /r/windows , lots of reports of problems since latest update
Wolf8312 Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Yeah dont think it's just specific to the current build as I used to have this problem but dont have it now I dont think. I used to think it was just poor VR implementation on BOS as it never happened with DCS. When I did have this problem however a fresh install of windows fixed it. I wonder did you install windows 10 as an update or did you do a fresh install? You should also run sfc /scannow in the command promt, and check for errors. If you have them and a system reset doesent fix it, I think the only recourse is to reinstall. At least thats what I was told and it did actually fix the problem (and many others).
stupor-mundi Posted May 20, 2018 Author Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) I am so pissed off, I struggle to describe things in an orderly fashion. Since I was (and am) convinced that everything was broken by the 1803 creators update, I went for a fresh windows 10 install on my laptop. It took me basically all weekend to get the fresh OS, eGPU working again, and IL-2 back to running, and I've not yet got my headtracking back. Since I knew it would be loads of lost time, I went for a fresh install from a microsoft tool, rather than the oem stuff in my laptop (hp in this case). The reinstall itself was quick, but then craptons of drawn out updates, and the forsaken 1803 update again. Then a fight to get thunderbolt 3 working again, and my aorus gaming box to register. Installed IL-2, and initially thought, wow, I made it, it's working now without the multitasking lockup issues. Spent some hours getting settings back, keybindings, joystick, et cetera, setting up a couple of planes. And just as I am in the process of getting opentrack to talk to IL-2, I start up IL-2 again, and the dreaded blue donut, windows wait cursor, is back (in the sim). And with it, super-drawn out startup, and IL-2 after switching to another application and switching back. So, I'm back, exactly where I started off, minus headtracking, and a lost weekend. Edited May 20, 2018 by stupor-mundi
stupor-mundi Posted June 10, 2018 Author Posted June 10, 2018 I've recently made a lot of graphics config changes, to get rid of microstutters, which worked. As part of that, I switched between windowed and not, the only visible effect of windowed seems to be the immediate appearance of the windows blue donut pointer, but it seems to have no effect on the ridiculous time it takes to switch back to IL-2 from another application. None of the other graphics choices, which DID fix the microstutters, had any effect on this either.
stupor-mundi Posted June 10, 2018 Author Posted June 10, 2018 I had microstutters, but that's not what this thread is about. It had been asked in one of the early posts whether I was running windowed or not, maybe implying that that could have an effect on the issue, but I found it doesn't. My microstutters are gone, but the multitasking issue remains.
stupor-mundi Posted June 11, 2018 Author Posted June 11, 2018 Googling some more to find a fix for this issue, I see that on reddit the topic is usually called 'alt-tabbing' . Thought I'd leave this here so that the thread can be found by that string. On reddit there are some reports of broken alt-tabbing in games due to the 1803 creator's update.
stupor-mundi Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 Found some threads suggesting that turning off 'focus assist' would fix the issue, but didn't on my system.
TP_Andy Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Same issue here, interestingly it is only present when Il-2 is being run. Got no stuttering whatsoever in any other game. Any progress?
stupor-mundi Posted July 8, 2018 Author Posted July 8, 2018 No progress on my side. Given the number of people affected by this (outside this sim), as seen on Reddit, I'm surprised there haven't been any fixes by MS yet, or hardwar specific fixes, in my case HP. I'm basically just waiting for a fix to come out.
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