Deadstick bush flight simulator

[LukeFF]

https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/9/17336124/deadstick-bush-flight-simulator-release-date-price

Edited May 9, 2018 by LukeFF

[angus26]

I’d like to see how this plays out gameplay wise. It looks like it could be pretty interesting, and a good bit of fun. 

[Legioneod]

Looks really interesting, one of the things I find really interesting is bush piloting. Gonna have to keep an eye on this.

 

EDIT: Not part of the game but pretty interesting.

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by Legioneod

[xvii-Dietrich]

I've been following the Deadstick development for a while. It does indeed look really cool, and I'm looking forward to it.

[ZachariasX]

I don‘t see how this could work out. First of all, the idea of a career is not new, it is implemented in several addons for the usual suspects. Also, for this to work out, they really had to implement weather in a decent way. Weather is more than rain and cloud sprites/textures. You should have a more layered athmosphere with different transparencies as well instead of the common shrouding of the horizon. So far, we have this in the newer iterations of P3D or maybe FSX and XP, but it is only working nice if you invest another $100. And I‘d say just with that we‘re leaving the price bracket for this to sell.

 

The gfx look pretty and if they are from a mainstream game engine (that would explain the nice looks), then you are again a flat earther.

 

Systems modelling... cool, should be. But in a Cub or Super Cub there is not that much of that. If they are flying in polar regions, it would be nice how they implement icing etc.

 

As for now, for bush flying A2A‘s Cub in FSX (has to be re-released for P3D v4) does that well. But in that case, without the „career“. You‘ll have that with the Connie or the Stratocruiser.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I agree that Deadstick faces a significant challenge. Systems modelling alone will not be enough to succeed. The vast XP and P3D ecosystems will deliver increasingly detailed aircraft in this category. 

 

The gameplay will likely be deciding factor. If Deadstick can integrate RPG elements without becoming tedious or simplistic, it has a chance. Of course, that would be a considerable feat. 

 

Admittedly, it is an interesting idea. I've always wished that I could walk around an aircraft as a pilot instead of floating through it like a ghost. 

[ZachariasX]

You can walk your avatar around your aircraft in P3D. You can make pre-flight checks or whatever like this.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Looks pretty nice and exiting. Seems like they can fill a decent niche market with this one.

 

Tracking with interest although I'm skeptical about the FM (I'm too spoiled by BoX).

 

Edit: I hope they can throw in 1 - 2 new aircraft for variety.

Edited May 10, 2018 by 6./ZG26_5tuka

[Picchio]

Only commenting on the trailer, because I found it to be exeptionally good! The footage! The music!

 

 

[56RAF_Roblex]

9 hours ago, Legioneod said:

Looks really interesting, one of the things I find really interesting is bush piloting. Gonna have to keep an eye on this.

 

EDIT: Not part of the game but pretty interesting.

 

 

What sort of nutter not only lands uphill onto the top of a hill but then turns round turns off his engine and rolls down towards the rocks hoping he will gain enough flying speed??! 

[ZachariasX]

7 minutes ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

 

What sort of nutter not only lands uphill onto the top of a hill but then turns round turns off his engine and rolls down towards the rocks hoping he will gain enough flying speed??! 

 

Someone with a short career.

[J2_Trupobaw]

Looks like my new sim.
And, I can't wait to see what Doc Zebra does with it :D.

[ZachariasX]

It never goes without tears:

 

It may be fun if you're slow enough to not get hurt enough. But if you are stuck out there amongst the wolves on your nose... Then you will find out if you brought enough camping gear.

[Legioneod]

18 minutes ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

 

What sort of nutter not only lands uphill onto the top of a hill but then turns round turns off his engine and rolls down towards the rocks hoping he will gain enough flying speed??! 

Never shut his engine off, I think he just reduced throttle. He's def an experienced pilot and knows what he's doing. Bush pilots have to make extremely short landing all the time. The aircraft he was fling has a very low stall speed (around 30mph) and is capable of taking off within 150ft.

 

Would def like to own one of these aircraft someday.

Edited May 10, 2018 by Legioneod

[ZachariasX]

2 minutes ago, Legioneod said:

Never shut his engine off, I think he just reduced throttle. He's def an experienced pilot and knows what he's doing. Bush pilots have to make extremely short landing all the time. The aircraft he was fling has a very low stall speed (around 30mph) and is capable of taking off within 150ft.

 

Would def like to own one of these aircraft someday.

From 2:02 on he did and let it roll down the hill.

[Legioneod]

6 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

From 2:02 on he did and let it roll down the hill.

Ah, didn't see that part. Pretty cool, though I don't think I would do it.

[xvii-Dietrich]

3 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

As for now, for bush flying A2A‘s Cub in FSX (has to be re-released for P3D v4) does that well. But in that case, without the „career“. You‘ll have that with the Connie or the Stratocruiser.

 

Sadly, A2A have recently shied away from bush planes. With the exception of retro-fitting some form of Accu-Sim onto someone else's model there's not much new in the bush-flying realm. Their Cub for FSX is the last decent foray in that area and their April announcement indicats they are not going that way again. The other thing they've ruled out is float. *sob*

 

X-Plane is a bit better. The SMS DHC-2 is pretty good. If there are good bush-planes with a bush-plane career mode and decent customisation, please let me know!

 

So, I reckon that if Deadstick comes with a vaguely decent flight model, good weather conditions, customisation and a career, it will do okay.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

What sort of nutter not only lands uphill onto the top {...}

 

Unternehmen Eiche springs to mind.

 

 

So, the alternative to Deadstick would be for IL2:BoX to implement the Fi 156.  *hint hint*

[Hoots]

Looks good, nice idea. It's on my list. 

[Monostripezebra]

23 hours ago, Legioneod said:

Looks really interesting, one of the things I find really interesting is bush piloting. Gonna have to keep an eye on this.

 

EDIT: Not part of the game but pretty interesting.

 

 

That is Steve Henry, I think..  he got late into flying, in his 40ies, yet he knows how to fly his planes and sells kitplanes with his wife.

https://www.youtube.com/user/taildrgfun

http://www.wildwestaircraft.com/

11 hours ago, xvii-Dietrich said:

 

So, the alternative to Deadstick would be for IL2:BoX to implement the Fi 156.  *hint hint*

 

the Ju52 can land almost anywhere in game.. from the grain elevator to boats to cranes. And it carries cargo there. It is pretty much THE bush carrier.. in real life that was the reason it flew on for many years in Vietnam and papua new guinea after WW2..

 

I can only recomend this in Il2 if you like going places. Only problem is taking off again after a full stop, best stop the wheels on a road-surface.

 

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by Monostripezebra

[Monostripezebra]

some more mood setting:

 

[BeastyBaiter]

Looks interesting. Way back in the day when I played FSX, the only things I ever messed with were the bush planes. If they create decent flight models and have an interesting game, I'll get it. The decent flight models part is the most likely sticking point. I expect BoX/DCS level.

[Monostripezebra]

Still hoping it is going to be good..

 

 

[Monostripezebra]

Some footage has emerged:

 

[Hoots]

Yep, still top of my buy list. 

[Monostripezebra]

some more news:

 

 

Edited June 12, 2018 by Monostripezebra

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

They went insane and developed well more than only a Game. https://steamcommunity.com/games/771800/announcements/detail/1693856151146075454

[Bremspropeller]

Sounds interesting!

Hopefully they'll add a piston-twin for some freightdoggin' eventually.

 

That Super-Kitfox-Cub looks a bit strange. A Beaver or C185 knock-off would be cool, too.

[Feathered_IV]

Looks good.  They were getting an insane amount of hate over on the steam forums.  Hopefully that phase will be behind them soon.  

[CUJO_1970]

They could have saved themselves some grief by making this announcement a long time ago.

 

Simmers are not intimidated by seeing how the sausage is made. Two years is a long damn time.

[ZachariasX]

I‘m not sure that I like the idea of having a fantasy plane on a fantasy map. It will drastically limit what you can do with it. Even if it has the looks, it will still be some sort of GTA.

 

As it has the looks, I wonder how FPS friendly they can make this sim, given they are dumping this world for an arbitrary terrarium to fly in. If they can make and efficient renderer, it surely could be grand for VR. I‘m planning to take the plunge this year, but starting with Aerofly FS2 that is far easier on the system than P3D (or XP). Once I get used to it, I‘ll try IL2. 

[CanadaOne]

I don't mind a fantasy map, I love all maps, and I especially love more maps. But I thought the plane was modeled on a real one. It's not a Bird Dog or something like that?

 

The big deal for me is the physics. If it feels like a Nintendo plane on rails, it's DOA. But if the physics are right and the eye candy is sweet, I'm all for it.

[ZachariasX]

3 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

But if the physics are right

The right physics on a made-up plane?

[Lusekofte]

35 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

The right physics on a made-up plane?

Well I do not mind flying homebuildt self designed plane. It no worser than flying a bf 109 in a cfs and actually believe you are flying a real bf 109. 
I have flown several types of Cessna and I got a good reference if this will be a good or bad simulation. I bet it will be over the top. 
I am going for this head on. I am not adicted to shoot something. 

[ZachariasX]

35 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Well I do not mind flying homebuildt self designed plane.

This is not homebuilt. It is a made-up aircraft that doesn't exist. You can give it any FM you please, it will always be correct. There is no way to check what thise guys really deliver in terms of flight modelling.

[Lusekofte]

You are dead wrong. He did say witch planes it is inspired from. You can by its design tell what expectations it will have by weight, aerodynamic,  wings and power. Hybrids have flown since planes git commercial. 
 And they did it because of copyright issues and for pre sale. There will come “ real” planes later
I perfectly understand their choice and have absolutely no problem enjoying such a plane. 
Unlike you I have no illusion I am actually mastering and experiencing the bf 109 , but still I am able to enjoy the ✈️ 

Edited March 17, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[ZachariasX]

34 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Unlike you I have no illusion I am actually mastering and experiencing the bf 109

Wot?

 

35 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

There will come “ real” planes later

Let's hope so.

[CanadaOne]

3 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

The right physics on a made-up plane?

 

Well, you find me the right physics on a computer generated plane that you've never flown in real life, but that you are flying in your game room at home while in your pajamas, prove to me that they are in fact "right", and then we can have us a conversation about the true meaning of that there word and its feasibility in my sentence.

 

While six-feet apart after having washed our hands, of course.

Edited March 17, 2020 by CanadaOne
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[ZachariasX]

If you make a hybrid of this:

 

and a supposed Vundervaffe of your liking, then you get this:

 

 

I'm sure we have a great FM for that one. Totally plausible, as I can attack from the back side of the moon now. An Endsiegsimulator.

 

As for the Deadstick sim, I'm just happy they didn't call their bush plane "Growler".

[CanadaOne]

I would fly that, with a beer in one hand and a broad in the other.

[DetCord12B]

12 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

The right physics on a made-up plane?

 

The FM is based upon the Cub. It's a Cub from stem to stern, period. They simply don't have the money to officially license the design, so they made a manufacturer up. But it's a Piper Cub.

 

I spent almost a 100 hours in the CT alpha, and it really is an amazing flight simulator with an intricate business sim attached. Truly unreal. Their problem remains that their community communication is horrendous (nonexistent), their dates are never met, and they seem ambivalent with regards to building any sort of hype. Hell ,they posted their first update last week after a break of almost a year.

 

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Seems they are still pushing the idea on Discord that the project is still being worked on but provide no real details except that they have had problems, real lives and other commitments that take them away from DS.

The term vague comes to mind.

 

Yeah....