Bodenplatte / Airfields - Weather - Cities - Distance

[LesG]

The Planes started from Bremen (north Germany) to Stuttgart (south Germany) and from different Airports between this both cities.

 

Entfernung = Distance

Fahrstrecke = distance - street / car

 

 

One of the targets was Antwerpen (Belgium)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Airports:

 

 

Luftwaffe Operation "Bodenplatte" - 1 January 1945 (Groups and Locations)

Jagdgruppe 1 Oberstleutnant Ihlefeld Location
I/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Twenthe
II/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Drope
III/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 Rheine

Jagdgruppe 2 Oberstleutnant Bühligen
I/Gruppe FW 190 A-8/A-9 Merzhausen
II/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Nidda, Ettinghausen
III/Gruppe FW 190 D-9 Altenstadt

Jagdgruppe 3 Oberstleutnant Bär
I/Gruppe Bf 109 G-10 & G-14 Paderborn
III/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Lipespringe
IV/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Gutersloh

Jagdgruppe 4 Major Michalski
I/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Darmstadt-Greisheim
III/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Babenhausen
IV/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Rhein-Main

Jagdgruppe 6 Oberst Kogler
I/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Delmenhorst
II/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Quakenbruck, Vechta
III/Gruppe Bf 109 G-10 & G-14 Bissel

Jagdgruppe 11 Major Sprecht
I/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Darmstadt-Greisheim
II/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Zellhausen
III/Gruppe FW 190 A-8 Gross-Ostheim

Jagdgruppe 26 Oberstleutnant Priller
I/Gruppe FW 190 D-9 Furstenau
II/Gruppe FW 190 D-9 Furstenau
III/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Plantlunne

Jagdgruppe 27 Major Franzisket
I/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Rheine
II/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 Rheine
III/Gruppe Bf 109 K-4 Hespe
IV/Gruppe Bf 109 G-10 Achmer

Jagdgruppe 53 Oberstleutnant Bennemann
II/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 & K-4 Malmsheim
III/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 Kirrlach
IV/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 St. Echterdingen

Jagdgruppe 54 Oberstleutnant Dortenmann
III/Gruppe FW 190 D-9 Furstenau
IV/Gruppe FW 190 A-8/A-9 Vorden

Jagdgruppe 77 Major Leie
I/Gruppe Bf 109 G-14 Dortmund
II/Gruppe Bf 109 K-4 Bonninghardt
III/Gruppe Bf 109 K-4 Düsseldorf-Lohausen

Schlachtgeschwader 4 Oberstleutnant Druschel
III/Gruppe Fw 190 F-8 Köln-Wahn

Einsatzstaffel/Jagdgruppe 104
Bf 109 K-4 Fürstenau

Kampfgruppe (J) 51 Hauptman Unrau
Me 262A Rheine

Einsatzstaffel III/Kampfgruppe (J) 76
AR 234B Münster-Handorf

 

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Girbig, W., Six Months to Oblivion, 1989, West Chgester, PA, Schiffer
Military History.
Copyright GFN 1994.

 

 

Map of the Airfields

 

 

 

 

Big cities around the airfields:

 

Bremen - 1945

 

 

 

Hannover - 1945

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by LesG

[LesG]

Bielefeld - 1945

 

 

 

Münster - 1945

 

 

 

 

Ruhrgebiet - 1945 (Dortmund / Duisburg / Gelsenkirchen / Oberhausen)

 

Gelsenkirchen - 1945 (Zeche Consolidation)

 

 

Dortmund - 1945

 

 

Duisburg - 1945

 

 

Oberhausen - 1945

 

 

 

 

Düsseldorf - 1945

 

 

 

Köln (Ghost City) - 1945

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frankfurt - 1945

 

 

 

Stuttgart - 1945

 

 

 

 

cities without Pictures (but also damaged like the other cities)

 

Koblenz

Mainz

Mannheim

Ludwigshafen

Heidelberg

Karlsruhe

 

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by LesG

[LesG]

If you Devs open the Map behind the red line, to let the germans planes start at the historic airfields it seems that you have to place more than one million of destroyed buildings on the map only in germany.

 

 

Citizens 1940:

 

Bremen            441.800
Osnabrück       105.270
Bielefeld           127.144
Münster           144.945
Essen               667.500
Dortmund        546.300
Duisburg          434.646
Gelsenkirchen 321.586
Bochum           301.488
Düsseldorf      542.800
Köln                 768.300
Aachen           158.900
Bonn               101.500
Koblenz            91.098
Frankfurt        557.900
Mainz             158.000
Mannheim      268.857
Ludwigshafen  145.700
Karlsruhe        190.900
Stuttgart         454.600

 

over 6 Million Citizens only in the bigger cities in germany.

Edited May 2, 2018 by LesG

[LesG]

Aachen 1945

 

 

 

Belgium 1945

 

ST. Vieth

 

 

Gent May 1945

 

 

Brüssel May 1945

 

 

 

 

Antwerpen 1945

 

 

 

 

 

 

Netherland 1945

 

Utrecht

 

 

Arnheim

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weather

 

Ardennen December 1945 (Belgium and Luxemburg)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eindhoven January 1945

 

 

 

St. Denis - Bodenplatte

 

 

Eindhoven - Bodenplatte

 

 

 

Maybe pictures of Bodenplatte 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by LesG

[=27=Davesteu]

5 hours ago, LesG said:

Jagdgruppe 1

...

While the Luftwaffe used the term "Jagdgruppe", every unit mentioned above should read Jagdgeschwader instead. That's a very important difference.

 

6 hours ago, LesG said:

Einsatzstaffel III/Kampfgruppe (J) 76

Kampfgeschwader 76 was not redesignated KG(J)!

 

[Sharpe43]

This post actually has me thinking...if you were to move the Bremen- Antwerp line a bit to the northwest, and bring the area of The Hague into the map.... and then you can literally start looking for a needle in a hay stack.... or;

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket

 

 

Positions of the German launch units changed a number of times. For example, Artillerie Init 444 arrived in the southwest Netherlands (in Zeeland) in September 1944. From a field near the village of Serooskerke, five V-2s were launched on 15 and 16 September, with one more successful and one failed launch on the 18th. That same date, a transport carrying a missile took a wrong turn and ended up in Serooskerke itself, giving a villager the opportunity to surreptitiously take some photographs of the weapon; these were smuggled to London by the Dutch Resistance.^[43] After that the unit moved to the woods near Rijs, Gaasterland in the northwest Netherlands, to ensure that the technology did not fall into Allied hands. From Gaasterland V-2s were launched against Ipswich and Norwich from 25 September (London being out of range). Because of their inaccuracy, these V-2s did not hit their target cities. Shortly after that only London and Antwerp remained as designated targets as ordered by Adolf Hitler himself, Antwerp being targeted in the period of 12 to 20 October, after which time the unit moved to The Hague.

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

Nice info!

Do you know in which airfields were these US units based? Apparently these airfields will be included in BoBP's map and with those in mid we can more or less have an idea of the size of the map. I initially speculated with a 500 x 550 km map but Black Six told me it was too big to make.
 

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the units are located into the approximate boundaries of our future map.
 
36th FG (22, 23, 53 Sqdns): P-47D-15/16/21/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-26-RA

48th FG (492, 493, 494 Sqdns): P-47D-5/11/15/16/20/21/22/27/28/30-RE, D-26/28-RA

352nd FG (328, 486, 487 Sqdns): P-51D-5/D-10/D-15, C-1/10-NT, K-5-NT, B-15-NA

365th FG (386, 387, 388 Sqdns): P-47D-5/10/11/15/16/21/22/25/26/27/28/30-RE, D-4/28/30-RA

366th FG (389, 390, 391 Sqdns): P-47D-5/10/11/15/20/22/21/25/27/28/30-RE, D-28-RA

368th FG (395, 396, 397 Sqdns): P-47D-5/11/15/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-28/30-RA

370th FG (401, 402, 485 Sqdns): P-38J-10/15/25-LO, L-1/5-LO; P-51D-20-NA/K-10-NT

373rd FG (410, 411, 412 Sqdns): P-47D-1/5/6/10/15/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-26/28/30-RA

404th FG (506, 507, 508 Sqdns): P-47D-10/16/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-20/21/28/30-RA

405th FG (509, 510, 511 Sqdns): P-47D-6/11/15/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-2/26/28/30-RA

406th FG (512, 513, 514 Sqdns): P-47D-1/5/10/20/21/25/27/28/30-RE, D-2/26/28-RA

474th FG (428, 429, 430 Sqdns): P-38J-10/15/20/25-LO, L-1/5-LO

 

 

Edited May 3, 2018 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[LesG]

36th FG 

 

The Group, as the 36th Pursuit Group, were part of the defence force for the Caribbean area and the Panama Canal in 1941, flying P-39s and P-40s out of Puerto Rico. By May 1944 the 36th Fighter Group were flying their first missions out of England using P-47s. They flew escort missions for bombers in the run up to D-Day and ground-strafed many tactical targets in northern France over that summer. The group moved through several bases in northern France and then to Le Culot in Belgium so that they could more effectively support Allied ground troops.

 

 

48th FG

(England)

 

 

you can search it here:

 

http://www.americanairmuseum.com/unit

 

If you list me the airfields of the US groups i edit it in the map.

 

For me it seems that Bodenplatte will be the biggest project (with all the details) they ever made.

Edited May 3, 2018 by LesG

[LesG]

7 hours ago, Sharpe43 said:

Antwerp being targeted in the period of 12 to 20 October, after which time the unit moved to The Hague.

 

This is the picture of the V2 attack at Antwerpen.

 

 

 

[[DBS]El_Marta]

Here is a link to the "map services and geoportals - ruhr" with arial photographs of different timeperiods covering the ruhr-area: https://luftbilder.geoportal.ruhr/

 

 

Edited May 17, 2018 by [DBS]El_Marta

[Gil57]

As I was making "Westfront44" modded map for IL2-1946, I collected interesting historical data about airfields...

 

An example : 
About Brussel-Evere 1944 airfield :

      

 

(The last 2 docs come from RAF documentation) 

 

 

If needed, I may find more in my stock ?

[RNAF_RiderOfTheStorm]

https://www.boomgeschiedenis.nl/zoeken/100-3440_Vliegvelden-in-oorlogstijd

 

This book will come my way in a few days , itsa standard work on the dutch airfields in wartime.

More to follow

[MiloMorai]

On 5/2/2018 at 11:25 PM, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

36th FG (22, 23, 53 Sqdns): P-47D-15/16/21/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-26-RA Le Colet A-89

48th FG (492, 493, 494 Sqdns): P-47D-5/11/15/16/20/21/22/27/28/30-RE, D-26/28-RA St. Trond A-92

352nd FG (328, 486, 487 Sqdns): P-51D-5/D-10/D-15, C-1/10-NT, K-5-NT, B-15-NA Asch Y-29

365th FG (386, 387, 388 Sqdns): P-47D-5/10/11/15/16/21/22/25/26/27/28/30-RE, D-4/28/30-RA Metz-Frescaty Y-34

366th FG (389, 390, 391 Sqdns): P-47D-5/10/11/15/20/22/21/25/27/28/30-RE, D-28-RA Asch Y-29

368th FG (395, 396, 397 Sqdns): P-47D-5/11/15/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-28/30-RA 

370th FG (401, 402, 485 Sqdns): P-38J-10/15/25-LO, L-1/5-LO; P-51D-20-NA/K-10-NT 

373rd FG (410, 411, 412 Sqdns): P-47D-1/5/6/10/15/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-26/28/30-RA Le Colet East Y-10

404th FG (506, 507, 508 Sqdns): P-47D-10/16/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-20/21/28/30-RA St Trond A-92

405th FG (509, 510, 511 Sqdns): P-47D-6/11/15/20/22/25/27/28/30-RE, D-2/26/28/30-RA 

406th FG (512, 513, 514 Sqdns): P-47D-1/5/10/20/21/25/27/28/30-RE, D-2/26/28-RA 

474th FG (428, 429, 430 Sqdns): P-38J-10/15/20/25-LO, L-1/5-LO 

 Added bases for 9th AF units on Jan 1 1945.

Edited February 21, 2019 by MiloMorai

[sevenless]

On ‎5‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 11:01 AM, [DBS]El_Marta said:

Here is a link to the "map services and geoportals - ruhr" with arial photographs of different timeperiods covering the ruhr-area: https://luftbilder.geoportal.ruhr/

 

 

 

Very Cool! Unfortunately The Hochwald Gap, 10km from where I live isn´t on the maps. Anyways great site!

[Meatgrinder]

https://www.tim-online.nrw.de/tim-online2/

If you pick ">" in the top left corner and then activate the "Historische Karten" /"Historic Maps" Header, you can activate the TK25 1936-1945, which will give you a full map of Northrhine Westphalia (incl. HochwaldGap), zoomable, printable, free.

[Meatgrinder]

The january of 1945 in the area shown on the map was very snowy and cold. But the February was very mild and brought a lot of rain and from the dozens of pictures i have, that were taken between 8.Feb - 6.Mar 1945, there is no snow, just rain and mud. the picture is taken on 9.Feb 1945. 

I could deliver before-after pictures of all the cities and villages in the Area from Nijmegen/Arnhem to Venlo / Krefeld if needed, since it is in the middle of the upcoming Bodenplatte Map. As by Jan 1945 there was already extensive damage on most of those settlements. By 8.Feb (prior to the Operation Veritable) all the citys, railroads, streets and so on had been destroyed or bombed so severly, that british ground troop commanders stated in after war reports, that the rubble and remains even slowed down their advance. (For example: the pictures attached show the city of Kleve, next to Nijmegen, 30km away from Arnhem, after the 3rd. Bombing in Feb 1945, but half of the impacts were delivered in October 1944)

Also the Germans broke Dams, which resulted in massive Floods after 9.Feb.1945, that lasted for at least two weeks.


I could deliver detailled reports on nearly everything,  regarding Weather, Destruction Grades, timetables of attacs, highlight Landmarks for you, deliver pictures,Trenchmaps, were flak, false airfields, troops concentrations or important bridges were situated,  positions of units most times down to regiment/brigade level, for every day. I studied history and spend years of collecting and reading about this region, please tell me, what is interesting for you. 



 

Edited March 8, 2019 by Meatgrinder

[LukeFF]

@Meatgrinder, if you've not done so already, it'd be good to send a PM to Han and Jason with this info. That's the best way to ensure they'll see this. 

[56RAF_Pod]

On 2/20/2019 at 6:31 PM, RNAF_Konigs_Kobra said:

https://www.boomgeschiedenis.nl/zoeken/100-3440_Vliegvelden-in-oorlogstijd

 

This book will come my way in a few days , itsa standard work on the dutch airfields in wartime.

More to follow

 

I have this book too, it is really great!