Trailer?

[catchthefoxes]

I don't think this would happen but I'm curious, would the IL-2 devs ever release a trailer again like they did for Stalingrad in 2014 for future fronts or at all? 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Unlikely. Trailers similar to the one for Stalingrad can be quite expensive. Once a game is established, it's often easier to just show in-game footage of future releases. 

 

However, I wouldn't be surprised to see a trailer of some sort for Tank Crew in an attempt to attract a wider audience. 

[NETSCAPE]

I think game play footage is the best thing to advertise this game. Cinematic video takes a lot of time and money, and in the end does not reflect real game play, visually. 

[catchthefoxes]

o well, can't expect too much and the community does make some great cinematics! who knows maybe they'll do some stuff for BoBP or tank crew or flying circus

[Custard]

The days of the pre rendered trailers are long behind us, but the game could really do with some in-engine trailers showing how far IL-2 has come since BoS. So many people who play flight sims have no clue about the features that arrived in 3.001. 

 

Marketing is naturally pretty damn hard, but the devs should really give it a shot again. Word of mouth is free but only so effective.

[Diggun]

All of the best marketing I have seen for flight sims has been user generated. Channels such as Sheriff's, CheckSix & IFlyCentral are a fantastic recruitment tool for the sim. 

 

I will say that I think that the video below is the single best advert for a flight sim I have ever seen; all the elements combine to make something really special and memorable. I'd watch this over any pre-rendered cgi trailer any time! .... Though I can't help but wonder what them IX's are doing in Africa....

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Diggun

[Herne]

52 minutes ago, Diggun said:

All of the best marketing I have seen for flight sims has been user generated. Channels such as Sheriff's, CheckSix & IFlyCentral are a fantastic recruitment tool for the sim. 

 

I will say that I think that the video below is the single best advert for a flight sim I have ever seen; all the elements combine to make something really special and memorable. I'd watch this over any pre-rendered cgi trailer any time!

 

 

 

Enjoyed that, One of the best in game cinematic's I've seen in recent times is actually for IL2 for Friday Night Bomber flights. Brings a tear to the eye how good it is almost every time :-

 

 

[Uufflakke]

2 hours ago, Diggun said:

 

I will say that I think that the video below is the single best advert for a flight sim I have ever seen; all the elements combine to make something really special and memorable. I'd watch this over any pre-rendered cgi trailer any time!

 

 

 

I think we have the same taste.

That used to be my favourite video of old Il2:1946.

It inspired me to create some missions in the FMB on the desert map. And buying a new graphics card so I could also have these nice waves and surf on the beach.

 

And instead of a CGI rendered trailer (which has hardly anything to do with the actual ingame graphics) I prefer to see welldone gameplay videos.

Like this one by DBS airdoc.

 

 

[Diggun]

6 minutes ago, Uufflakke said:

And instead of a CGI rendered trailer (which has hardly anything to do with the actual ingame graphics) I prefer to see welldone gameplay videos.

Like this one by DBS airdoc.

 

 Amazing! I thought that there wasn't so much machinema being made with new il2. Clearly I need to check out these DBS types.

[Trooper117]

3 hours ago, Diggun said:

All of the best marketing I have seen for flight sims has been user generated. Channels such as Sheriff's, CheckSix & IFlyCentral are a fantastic recruitment tool for the sim. 

 

I will say that I think that the video below is the single best advert for a flight sim I have ever seen; all the elements combine to make something really special and memorable. I'd watch this over any pre-rendered cgi trailer any time! .... Though I can't help but wonder what them IX's are doing in Africa....

 

 

 

I have that video, along with all the other good IL2 vids that were out at the time... I keep them on my spare external hard drive.

They remind me of all those great times on Hyperlobby!

[Diggun]

5 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

I have that video, along with all the other good IL2 vids that were out at the time... I keep them on my spare external hard drive.

They remind me of all those great times on Hyperlobby!

 

There was another really gifted video maker back in the day. Something Bob? Bob something? amazing vids of low level Mossie raids etc.

 

FOUND! MaximumBob! Excellent work!

 

 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Diggun

[Trooper117]

I think I have that one on the Mossie... I'll have to try and dig it out.

If I remember right it was an anti shipping strike.

[Diggun]

5 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

I think I have that one on the Mossie... I'll have to try and dig it out.

If I remember right it was an anti shipping strike.

See above! Man I feel old.

[Trooper117]

lol... yes, that's it... and I have the Spit one as well!

[Lensman]

I very much dislike, even detest, game trailers and sadly IL-2 has been guilty of the reason why in past years. When a trailer is presented that massively improves the game graphics (from possible to Hollywood CGI), distorts possible gameplay, adds features that don't exist in the game (fully populated airfields with personnel and vehicles for example) and generally presents a full on feature film as what you will play if you pay then I call that dishonest. Even more so when the statement "Does not represent actual gameplay" flashes by in tiny text near the end.

IF the trailer comprised nothing but genuine gameplay then I would have no complaint because that's the product offered for sale. Anything else is cheating and lies.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Lensman

[ShamrockOneFive]

 

Still working on my Battle of Kuban trailer but here's one of my cinematics for IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad and particularly for the Blazing Steppe campaign as all of the footage comes from that scenario.

 

I think at this point the community, with the right in-game tools and some video know-how, can probably mobilize more than the developers can and we can do so many different takes on the same content. Each of us has different focuses and that gives prospective players a greater range to find out what the game is like. Strait multiplayer and single player gameplay too.

 

[Diggun]

7 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

I think at this point the community, with the right in-game tools and some video know-how, can probably mobilize more than the developers can and we can do so many different takes on the same content. Each of us has different focuses and that gives prospective players a greater range to find out what the game is like. Strait multiplayer and single player gameplay too.

 

Exactly this. Could not agree more.

[56RAF_Roblex]

1 hour ago, Lensman said:

I very much dislike, even detest, game trailers and sadly IL-2 has been guilty of the reason why in past years. When a trailer is presented that massively improves the game graphics (from possible to Hollywood CGI), distorts possible gameplay, adds features that don't exist in the game (fully populated airfields with personnel and vehicles for example) and generally presents a full on feature film as what you will play if you pay then I call that dishonest. Even more so when the statement "Does not represent actual gameplay" flashes by in tiny text near the end.

IF the trailer comprised nothing but genuine gameplay then I would have no complaint because that's the product offered for sale. Anything else is cheating and lies.

 

To be fair, you *can* have a fully populated airfield with vehicles it's just that most PCs would not handle it.  I am not sure which trailer you are thinking of that has fake graphics but many of the effects seen in player made cinematics are available in-game if you use the right software.    Compare this to your average X-Box trailer that includes ZERO in game footage,  just an animated film based on the concept,  and I think 1C is pretty honest.

 

ACG once made an incredible film for CLoD that was way beyond what most people experienced in-game but it was all actual footage.  It had skies full of aircraft and  airfields full of tents and fuel bowsers and ground crew, things you would never see in any online server yet it was all filmed online with nothing added (except a little GC dialog).    Watch it here 

 

 

 

If you are too impatient the main event starts at about 2:55, first contact around 7:15  and the combat starts around 9:20 but it is worth watching it all,  even the two minute intro that really sets the scene.  If you can only spare 3 minutes then jump to 20:00 to watch Hawkinge being hit as the hurricanes try to scramble. An incredible piece of footage

[NN_RugbyGoth]

Les Irreductibles made a great trailer a few years back:

 

[NO_SQDeriku777]

More live streaming on Twitch needs to be encouraged and promoted. The demographic of Twitch skews younger but that doesn't mean that compelling gameplay won't attract attention. This is a very watchable game and the game practically sells itself when people watch it being played. Many many devs work with live streamers to give away game keys. The recipients play online with the streamer and often get hooked. Honestly, occasional BOS license giveaways really aren't going to cost 1C much money in lost revenue. How many people with BOS that actively play stay playing with JUST BOS? I know a lot of blood sweat and tears went into developing BOS and it is hard to just give it away but the concept of a loss leader is a well established one. I know BOS goes on Steam Sale fairly regularly. What is missing is a lack of coordination with streamers. I see games being ACTIVELY promoted by streamers with key giveaways when they are on sale. Many buys are made by impulse. Hell I have made impulse buys of on sale games when they are on sale. They are cheap enough that I don't feel too much regret if they don't work out and the developer gets much need revenue. This interactivity is something you will never get by watching pre-recorded Youtube channels because you can interact with the streamer, ask them how they like the game, ask them for recommendations for getting started, etc. It is crazy not to take advantage of that sort of free promotion. It is crazy not to set up livestream COOP events with say, massive JU-52 formations, and people actively coordinating live on voice comms, random BOS key giveaways and having the streamer SHOW people how to buy BOS the JU-52 off of the store.

Edited April 26, 2018 by NO_SQDeriku777

[Gambit21]

31 minutes ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

 

To be fair, you *can* have a fully populated airfield with vehicles it's just that most PCs would not handle it. 

 

Not true at all Roblex.

Fully populated airfields/vehicles etc are easy and not resource intensive.

You get a FPS drop at airfields no matter what, adding more vehicles etc doesn't add to the problem.

[RAY-EU]

 Favorite one : 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

9 hours ago, Lensman said:

I very much dislike, even detest, game trailers and sadly IL-2 has been guilty of the reason why in past years. When a trailer is presented that massively improves the game graphics (from possible to Hollywood CGI), distorts possible gameplay, adds features that don't exist in the game (fully populated airfields with personnel and vehicles for example) and generally presents a full on feature film as what you will play if you pay then I call that dishonest. Even more so when the statement "Does not represent actual gameplay" flashes by in tiny text near the end.

IF the trailer comprised nothing but genuine gameplay then I would have no complaint because that's the product offered for sale. Anything else is cheating and lies.

 

All games since the beginning of times had cinematic trailers that are not using gameplay. I don't think anyone is getting baboozled by these trailers.

[Cpt_Cool]

 

I always like this one

[Diggun]

6 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said:

I always like this one

That's great! Amazing what a bit of camera shake can add to a scene!

[Thad]

2 minutes ago, Diggun said:

That's great! Amazing what a bit of camera shake can add to a scene!

Salutations,

 

Yes, this is a great video. Well done 

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

13 hours ago, Cpt_Cool said:

 

I always like this one

Yes this would be the best trailer for this sim... or something similar that’s made with all in game footage....  I like the post effects in this being lightly done.. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

6 hours ago, spartan85 said:

Yes this would be the best trailer for this sim... or something similar that’s made with all in game footage....  I like the post effects in this being lightly done.. 

 

Fly in Together is one of my favourite trailers for the series bar none. Superb work by N8. But it is not lightly touched in post... its heavily touched in post. Soft focus filter, camera shake (separate from the in-game cinematic camera shake), dust and scratches filter, retouched colour and contrast, the snow effect, and lens flare. N8 handles it masterfully but its not a light touch

Edited April 28, 2018 by ShamrockOneFive

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

Ya, what I meant really was the actual flying and the aircraft portrayed, not cgi aircraft flying strange flight physics that don’t match up to what we have in sim... 

i liked the spark in cockpit at one point... that would be a cool effect when instrument damages occurs...

[Trooper117]

A trailer is simply setting the scene for the upcoming game... just wetting your whistle and getting those juices flowing... honestly, it's no big deal.

If they had stated it 'was in game footage' and it then turned out 'not' to be, then I could understand people getting rather upset.