FW 190 in the career

[Yogiflight]

I don't know yet if the takeoff issue of AI 190s is solved, as I didn't fly enough missions yet.

But there still are issues with AI flying the 190, that definitely should be cleared. After takeoff 190s accelerate only to 300km/h (109s accelerate to 400km/h), and then climb with 270km/h (109s with 400km/h). This is, by far, too slow.

And just now I had a mission to protect ground troops in Pitomnik, not only that we were turning circles in 700m altitude with a radius of 1km at a speed of below 300km/h, the only thing you could do by attacking enemy fighters would be dive down to the deck and try to get away with a lot of luck (the fighters you see at this stage of the career, are mostly I16, that would eat you for breakfast, with that speed), gain altitude, and then come back, meanwhile your flight would, most likely, not exist anymore, but apart from that, we even circled 10km northwest of Pitomnik, where we should have. Fortunately, no enemy was seen.

[InProgress]

I guess AI for german planes need a little work. They like to turn fight a lot :/

[Yogiflight]

4 hours ago, InProgress said:

They like to turn fight a lot :/

Yep, that is why they rarely get any kills, but are easy preys for the I16s.

[GreenSound]

They takeoff issue for me has been fixed completely. Also, the ai seems to have been fixed as well for me in fights, with the 190s and 109s utilizing energy fighting most of the time. Depending on how "skilled" the ai is, they turn fighting either very little or basically none. My ai team mates have been getting kills every single mission I go out, and we've been taking very very few losses. This patch did a complete 180 for my teammates. It's almost ridiculous how bad we stomp the enemy now (I play on moderate difficulty, scattered front line)

 

I will admit the 190s seem a little slow in cruising on short missions, though they get to 450+ on longer flights, and I still see 109s pancaking while diving on low flying opponents. But overall this patch has made career mode extremely fun on my end of things

Edited April 22, 2018 by GreenSound

[Rottweiler]

Every time I take off in my 190 career my entire flight team crash into each other on the airfield,  leaving me alone to finish the mission being heavily out numbered lol. Funny what tricks you learn when you constantly die and re do missions.

[Yogiflight]

1 hour ago, GreenSound said:

They takeoff issue for me has been fixed completely.

 

1 hour ago, PRML_Hammerzeit said:

Every time I take off in my 190 career my entire flight team crash into each other on the airfield,  leaving me alone to finish the mission being heavily out numbered lol. Funny what tricks you learn when you constantly die and re do missions

I didn't see any crashes so far, but in my last mission I overtook two of my squadmates during the takeoff run, as they again accelerated with low power, but they made it into the air.

 

1 hour ago, GreenSound said:

My ai team mates have been getting kills every single mission I go out, and we've been taking very very few losses.

This is very ood, my experiences are the exact opposite. Rarely kills by my squadmates and very few of the come back to the base. And as posted above, they get killed by I16s. Maybe russians wouldn't have needed modern fighters, as the I16 seems to have been everything they needed.

 

1 hour ago, GreenSound said:

I will admit the 190s seem a little slow in cruising on short missions, though they get to 450+ on longer flights

I don't experience slow cruising, as soon as they reach the mission altitude, they accelerate with combat power to 450km/h, that is absolutely ok, but the climbing is much too slow. What I don't understand is why they don't accelerate to 400km/h after they took off and then start climbing with a higher speed, like the 109s do it.

[GreenSound]

13 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

 

I didn't see any crashes so far, but in my last mission I overtook two of my squadmates during the takeoff run, as they again accelerated with low power, but they made it into the air.

 

This is very ood, my experiences are the exact opposite. Rarely kills by my squadmates and very few of the come back to the base. And as posted above, they get killed by I16s. Maybe russians wouldn't have needed modern fighters, as the I16 seems to have been everything they needed.

 

I don't experience slow cruising, as soon as they reach the mission altitude, they accelerate with combat power to 450km/h, that is absolutely ok, but the climbing is much too slow. What I don't understand is why they don't accelerate to 400km/h after they took off and then start climbing with a higher speed, like the 109s do it.

 

All of your issues were issues I experienced before the latest patch. Maybe it is still inconsistent? Or maybe I have more "experienced" pilots in my gruppe now, so it improved from previous (I kept the same career between patches instead of starting over)

 

I really wish I could help, the career mode is so much fun for me now, I wish it was the same for you as well.

Edited April 22, 2018 by GreenSound

[ShamrockOneFive]

I've been flying the Schlacht missions with the FW190A-5 on the Kuban Career and I haven't had the troubles you guys were talking about. I started under 3.001 and just flew another under 3.002 and my flight of four took off from Anapa airfield, full bomb load, headed for targets near Gelendzhik, encountered stiff enemy resistance, still hit the target, and my wingmates came away with at least a few kills (as did I) and we lost one fighter on the raid. A second fighter crashed with severe damage on landing.

 

I was pretty impressed with the whole affair. It was gripping, interesting, and the AI performed well.

 

May need to try that Stalingrad campaign and see if its different.

[RAY-EU]

Fw 190 , Bf 109 F2,4 , G2,4,6 are by far Dogfighf superior SpitFire MKV and in the sim never could successfully establish victory dogfighting  with the Spitfire MkV .

 

Bf 109 do not have trim ? And can not dive at 900 km/h ? like historicaly does .

 

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by RAY-EU

[LukeFF]

11 minutes ago, RAY-EU said:

Fw 190 , Bf 109 F2,4 , G2,4,6 are by far Dogfighf superior SpitFire MKV and in the sim never could successfully establish victory dogfighting  with the Spitfire MkV .

 

Bf 109 do not have trim ? And can not dive at 900 km/h ? like historicaly does .

 

And that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic being discussed here.

[Custard]

4 hours ago, RAY-EU said:

Fw 190 , Bf 109 F2,4 , G2,4,6 are by far Dogfighf superior SpitFire MKV and in the sim never could successfully establish victory dogfighting  with the Spitfire MkV .

 

Bf 109 do not have trim ? And can not dive at 900 km/h ? like historicaly does .

 

The 109 in game does have trim, it has an adjustable stab. As for diving at 900.. Test pilots recalled the stick feeling like it was set in concrete at 600kph, let alone 900. That plane had horrific control lock up issues.

[FTC_DerSheriff]

5 hours ago, RAY-EU said:

Fw 190 , Bf 109 F2,4 , G2,4,6 are by far Dogfighf superior SpitFire MKV and in the sim never could successfully establish victory dogfighting  with the Spitfire MkV .

 

Bf 109 do not have trim ? And can not dive at 900 km/h ? like historicaly does .

 

 

Because you dont know how to, but that is not the topic here.

I personanlly ignore my flight lead. My entire squardon gets wiped every week anyway. I fight above moscow and fight 8-10 Migs at times. Alone. Because the others are already dead.
The High Command Discusses if they rename the group from Mölders to Klein. (Name of my Pilot)

[RAY-EU]

DerSheriff , Thanks  for your explanations and your Youtube Videos , are very good ! : I have discovered and understood the Axis elevator in the Bf's 109 F , G2-4-6 and I have successfully configured in the for the Bf's 109 F , G 2 , 4 , 6  in the Key Maping .

 

At the moment I preffer the elevator of the FW190 A3 & 5 for my knowledge experience that I thought is more  effectiveness right now since my point of view , but I thank you for your explanation  , nowadays I am practicing much more with the Axis elevators of the Bf's 109 F G 2 4 & 6 to familiarize and are also good ! And enjoying very much more the Bf's 109 ! And right now I am looking forward enjoying more an  much more waiting amazingly  the arrival of the Bf 109 G14 in June July and the Bf 109 K4 also  by this way for this technical reason ' the Axis elevator ' and many others things will be surprised about these planes !

 

Thank You !

Edited May 3, 2018 by RAY-EU