JaffaCake Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Out of curiosity and common stereotype that games are generally under-priced in other regions I checked the price for the IL2 in Russia. I was actually surprised to see that its a little more expensive than the US version, arriving at around 5000rub == 82$ USD. I am assuming this is mostly due to the dramatic fall in the US currency in the past few weeks. However, russian version of BOS is priced much cheaper and apparently not on discount, with basic version at permanent 33% discount, and premium at 20% discount. Wonder if that will translate to the other markets at any point, as it would help bringing more people on the fairly expensive game.
1_Robert_ Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Curious why you would label this an expensive game? Relative to what? IOS games? These are $49 USD per game for standard editions. Or maybe I misunderstood you
Warpig Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Other titles cost more than this, and you also have to pay for online access. This game gives you online access included in the price. I would hardly call this an expensive game.
CanadaOne Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, 1_Robert_ said: Curious why you would label this an expensive game? Relative to what? IOS games? These are $49 USD per game for standard editions. Or maybe I misunderstood you It's a premium game for a premium price. You don't get the Johnny Walker Blue of WWII flightsims for a Budweiser price. That's fair. 2
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1_Robert_ said: Curious why you would label this an expensive game? Relative to what? IOS games? These are $49 USD per game for standard editions. Or maybe I misunderstood you The average price of games in a high-quality Steam library can be below $10 thanks to discounts and bundles. Therefore, Il-2 is not exactly cheap when compared to all games. However, Il-2 has great value for a flight sim. At normal prices, everything can be purchased for around $250. Meanwhile, it's ~$1000 for DCS. Edited April 19, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1 1
MarderIV Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 I didn't get any regional pricing adjustments in the country I'm in (Philippines), but it's really a non-issue. I've spent hundreds of dollars on Il-2 and the only thing missing for me is the Mc-202 and the Bodenplatte pre-order. They're all worth it. As it stands Il-2 is practically the only sim that nearly matches pre-90's simulators in terms of content, scope, and fidelity. If my memory is correct those old sims were practically priced right around where Il-2 is if you factor inflation (sometimes more expensive actually). Seeing as this sim is the only one right now that gives off that kind of content and scope, justifying the cost is exceptionally easy. Back then simulators had near Triple-A levels of content on top of their fidelity for their time. I'm very happy to have a combat simulator that reaches those levels again.
Jade_Monkey Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: The average price of games in a high-quality Steam library can be below $10 thanks to discounts and bundles. You can't be serious 1
ShamrockOneFive Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 If you hop on Origin and check out the latest games from EA.... Star Wars Battlefront II is $79.99 Need for Speed Payback is $79.99 FIFA 18 is $79.99 Battlefield 1 is down to $26.99 (currently on sale) (but you still need a Premium pass or purchase individual DLC for the whole pack) IL-2 is, as far as I'm concerned, priced well and at the level I'd expect for the kind of complex content that it offers. Yeah, I purchased some games from the Apple store for a few dollars here and there but they are much much much smaller in concept so I'd expect them to be priced accordingly as well.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said: You can't be serious Right now, older but admired games such as DiRT Rally and The Talos Principle are around $10. These sales are not extraordinary. Great Battles games, while not priced poorly, are nevertheless not the least expensive.
1_Robert_ Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 You can probably pick up Chuck Yeager's Combat sim for $4.95 somewhere too. You'll need a floppy drive though 1 2
Jade_Monkey Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: Right now, older but admired games such as DiRT Rally and The Talos Principle are around $10. These sales are not extraordinary. Great Battles games, while not priced poorly, are nevertheless not the least expensive. That's just pure selection bias. What about all the other big games that are not discounted? In my opinion BOS is adecuately priced, especially for a niche market. On top of that there are sales more than 4 times a year for those people who can't/don't want to pay full price.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said: That's just pure selection bias. What about all the other big games that are not discounted? In my opinion BOS is adecuately priced, especially for a niche market. On top of that there are sales more than 4 times a year for those people who can't/don't want to pay full price. I intentionally chose two examples that were deeply discounted. Many people take that into account when buying games. I never said that Great Battles has inadequate prices. In fact, I'd say that the prices are very good. I merely explained why someone might call it "fairly expensive" by showing that some games sell for less. Edited April 20, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
rolikiraly Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) I think i literally have a (not too large) steam library with less than $10/title average price. Didn't check but my guess would be so. Yes, there are some older games in there, no floppy drive needed, though . Edited April 20, 2018 by rolikiraly 1
Danziger Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: I intentionally chose two examples that were deeply discounted. Many people take that into account when buying games. I never said that Great Battles has inadequate prices. In fact, I'd say that the prices are very good. I merely explained why someone might call it "fairly expensive" by showing that some games sell for less. I know right? It's like trying to explain to people why some other people would say a quarter million dollar Aston Martin is too freakin expensive when there are so many other older but admired cars to be had for less than ten thousand dollars...
Tyberan Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) I think it's quite expensive, collectors is $79USD which is $102AUD for the collectors. I also bought all of the titles during early access period bringing my total cost over $400 AUD. However in saying that the quality is worth it and the development has been very smooth, consistent and the devs are constantly interacting with the customer. It is also the only WW2 based flight sim that is still developing and releasing content. I see the cost as investment in getting content I want in the end, which I will be in BoBp with the ME262 so my rationale worked (for me anyway). I have not regretted my purchase, hell I just spent $1200 to upgrade my rig so that I can play it with a better FPS Edited April 20, 2018 by Tyberan
TWC_Ace Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Guys, lets be honest. Prices are on par with the quality if not even less. Look at the ED prices not to mention money milkers from Wargaming and Gaijin. Sure, FPS titles are cheaper but can we compare them to our simulation? Nope. Sure Im purchasing stuff on sales since I live in central europe where the salaries are few times lower of those on the west...But thats how it is. Edited April 20, 2018 by blackram
Voidhunger Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Any simulator with that kind of replaybility (career and multiplayer) is worth the money. Great battles are cheap
LuftManu Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 From my point of view, Il-2 is CHEAP or more precisely, the price is correct. I think we all know about overpriced and unfinished products by now. Il-2 offers a great value for money in content and experience. Of course its up to the player to make it worth it by flying it.
klebor Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 To be honest i don't think the game is expensive. Just comare IL2 to other titles.
THERION Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Well, this series is not cheap but neither is it expensive - we get a lot for the money to be honest. Comparing FPS genre to our beloved genre is like comparing celling prices of a Volkswagen and Aston Martin. So be proud to be part of an exquisite clientele - consider yourself as a proud owner of an Aston Martin! Now that's something... Cheerio
Livai Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 15 hours ago, CanadaOne said: It's a premium game for a premium price. Premium game for a premium price - , best example the BoS Version what included all 8 planes with a Limited Edition Label on it for just 499 Rubel ~ 8 Dollar only for the russia market however everyone could buy it everywhere outside russia and everyone who paid the 6x - 10x times more had a big attack of colic thanks to them ..................
CanadaOne Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Livai said: Premium game for a premium price - , best example the BoS Version what included all 8 planes with a Limited Edition Label on it for just 499 Rubel ~ 8 Dollar only for the russia market however everyone could buy it everywhere outside russia and everyone who paid the 6x - 10x times more had a big attack of colic thanks to them .................. I stand by what I said. Enjoy your Friday.
RedKestrel Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Livai said: Premium game for a premium price - , best example the BoS Version what included all 8 planes with a Limited Edition Label on it for just 499 Rubel ~ 8 Dollar only for the russia market however everyone could buy it everywhere outside russia and everyone who paid the 6x - 10x times more had a big attack of colic thanks to them .................. How dare private companies price their products according to the markets they are sold in! What cheek!
Tyberan Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 It makes sense, I guess the average wage for Russians is rather low compared to other countries. Plus Russian devs so of course they would make it easier for their countrymen to play it.
1_Robert_ Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Price’s are adjusted to individual country’s economies and markets. That’s the way things work. A cell phone doesn’t cost the same in a large urban Canadian city as the exact same phone costs in a remote city in Nepal. Both countries have the phone but one country will pay a mere fraction of what the other pays. That’s how life works.
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