Bailing out in water : always Killed?

[RedKestrel]

I've decided that in my particular instance, this is very realistic, since IRL I swim like a rock tied down to multiple, heavier rocks. I could probably drown in a 2 foot deep creek with a bit of effort.

[Yogiflight]

16 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said:

Yeah in an iron man career I found out the hard way you can also die if your parachute lands in a tall tree. (Okay, so I hit Alt+F4 because i am weak).

Yes, I had that several times, so I always try to bail out somewhere else, than over a forest. That's why I hate flying on the Moscow map, too many forests.?

[-TBC-AeroAce]

5 hours ago, Cpt_Cool said:

Yeah in an iron man career I found out the hard way you can also die if your parachute lands in a tall tree. (Okay, so I hit Alt+F4 because i am weak).

 

I thought it was impossible to land on a tree. Your pilot will float inbetween them.

[Cpt_Cool]

It cuts your parachute down and you fall. Usually not high enough to kill you though.

[Cybermat47]

10 hours ago, Cpt_Cool said:

It cuts your parachute down and you fall. Usually not high enough to kill you though.

 

The same happens with buildings, as I discovered when I landed on the grain elevator.

[InProgress]

It's a bit weird that touching anything with parachute makes it break and you fall like it was shot with 20mm guns 10 times Even tho it looks small, i think whole parachute stuff must be fixed, if you die because you landed in water, tree or building and lose 200+ days of career then... yeah small but important thing.

[Cpt_Cool]

3 hours ago, InProgress said:

It's a bit weird that touching anything with parachute makes it break and you fall like it was shot with 20mm guns 10 times Even tho it looks small, i think whole parachute stuff must be fixed, if you die because you landed in water, tree or building and lose 200+ days of career then... yeah small but important thing.

 

eh, like I said, I just hit alt+f4 and was able to re-fly the mission, so it did not cost me the career, and now I know haha.

[GridiroN]

On 4/12/2018 at 7:18 PM, Yogiflight said:

Of course, you are killed, or did you see any life jacket, so far. They are not modelled, as it was not needed for BOS, and got lost in creating BOK. Obviously you are not thought to fly over the sea.

 

I have landed in a shallow canal before and it counts as drowned/killed...

 

Water shouldn't kill you unless you land in a body of water a distance far enough away that a human couldn't swim.

Edited June 24, 2018 by GridiroN

[AndyJWest]

If you hit 'escape' while still hanging on your parachute it doesn't seem to count as drowning. This also seems to prevent you being 'captured'. I've not tried it in iron man mode though, and it might be seen by some as cheating.

[GridiroN]

1 minute ago, AndyJWest said:

If you hit 'escape' while still hanging on your parachute it doesn't seem to count as drowning. This also seems to prevent you being 'captured'. I've not tried it in iron man mode though, and it might be seen by some as cheating.

 

I will try this in regards to drowning. It certainly always lists me as captured though when I do this. 

 

That's another thing..."captured" shouldn't count as "killed". You should keep like 75% of your points for capture instead of having the same penalty for death, which is savage (40pts can do down to 2 if you die). 

[InProgress]

1 hour ago, GridiroN said:

 

I have landed in a shallow canal before and it counts as drowned/killed...

 

Water shouldn't kill you unless you land in a body of water a distance far enough away that a human couldn't swim.

Ever heard of sea planes? they can save you and you don't need to die because far away from land. Near ships could save you as well. I am 100% sure it will be fixed, after all it would be unacceptable to die in water when we get pacific expansions.

[Yogiflight]

2 hours ago, GridiroN said:

I have landed in a shallow canal before and it counts as drowned/killed..

I even landed on a sea shore, my aircraft sank into the sand and I was killed.

[GridiroN]

8 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

I even landed on a sea shore, my aircraft sank into the sand and I was killed.

 

That was the weight of your sins my friend...aallll your sins.

[Junjun_Nikurasu]

On 6/25/2018 at 4:58 AM, InProgress said:

Ever heard of sea planes? they can save you and you don't need to die because far away from land. Near ships could save you as well. I am 100% sure it will be fixed, after all it would be unacceptable to die in water when we get pacific expansions.

Your darn right, that why I just can't wait!

 

[Bremspropeller]

On ‎4‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 3:53 PM, RedKestrel said:

Anyone know if flying squadrons on the eastern front were equipped with dingies or the like, as other allied? Even a floater vest wouldn't keep you going for long, and in the black sea I imagine hypothermia would get you pretty quick.

Ideally I think I'd like to see some kind of % chance of survival based on distance from shore, distance from friendly naval units, season, etc. But I think it would always be slim...

 

The Black Sea in summer should be alright.

Not comparable to the North Sea, where taking a swim is always (read: during any season) a bad idea without thermal protection.

Getting wet in the winter-months is never a good idea, though.

 

Depending on your gear (e.g. does it soak and overcome the buoyancy of the vest + your body) and a warm enough water-temperature, the floater vest can probably sustain buoyancy long enough for you to die of exposure rather than hypothermia.

 

Other Things about bailing out over water that are seldomly considered are: getting entangled in your chute after splashdown, not being able to come from under the canopy, being injured and not being able to inflate the vest/ dinghy, being injured and not being able to enter the dinghy, having forgotten (or lost) your signal-pistol...

 

There are thousand ways to die when bailing out over water. The call for additional realism can only go so far.

Yes, you shouldn't drown all the time, but suggesting that a successful bailout over water will have you home for dinner is a bit overly optimistic. ?

 

Did I Mention sharks? ?

[Junjun_Nikurasu]

On 7/15/2018 at 9:29 PM, Bremspropeller said:

Depending on your gear (e.g. does it soak and overcome the buoyancy of the vest + your body) and a warm enough water-temperature, the floater vest can probably sustain buoyancy long enough for you to die of exposure rather than hypothermia.

 

Other Things about bailing out over water that are seldomly considered are: getting entangled in your chute after splashdown, not being able to come from under the canopy, being injured and not being able to inflate the vest/ dinghy, being injured and not being able to enter the dinghy, having forgotten (or lost) your signal-pistol...

 

There are thousand ways to die when bailing out over water. The call for additional realism can only go so far.

Yes, you shouldn't drown all the time, but suggesting that a successful bailout over water will have you home for dinner is a bit overly optimistic

Well if its cause by pilot's gear, how does the Russian n the German pilot's gear have to do with dying in the Volga or any other river in the Eastern front?  Well it deep, " but not too deep....".