Operation Barbarossa Plane Set

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I want them all but imagine you could choose just one for a premium or third party in the near future ....

What are your thoughts?

Any plane missing that you think should be added to the list?

 

It would be very interesting to give reasons why you chose that one,

for example, I voted for the I15/153 Chaika because of the number of units produced and its relevance in all the Eastern Front in time and places.

Edited April 10, 2018 by PA_Spartan-

[jeanba]

All of them + the Iar 80, Fiat Cr42, "Heja", pzl11, pzl24 ...

Edited April 10, 2018 by jeanba

[56RAF_Roblex]

Hurricane.  It is not about having the best aircraft of the era.   The hurricane was a solid workhorse that did a great job  in Russia.  It has far greater claim to a place in BoX than the Spitfire which was a rare, unpopular and not very successful novelty in Russia.   I am not saying the Spitfire is not a good plane in BoX but it is a travesty to include the Spit (1200 aircraft) and leave out the much more popular and numerous Hurri (3082 aircraft) .  The 40mm anti-tank guns would be nice too :-)

 

 

Edited April 10, 2018 by 56RAF_Roblex

[Raptorattacker]

I HAD to vote for the Hurricane although the Chaika is pretty much evens for me. The Hurricane, whilst not particularly being the best performing machine, was capable of taking untold amount of punishment and still doing its job, largely down to its construction materials. We all know this, I'm sure, but it's worth reiterating, yeah?

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

I voted for the DB-3 because it would be the medium bomber the VVS currently needs, being comparable in speed and payload to a He 111, preferably the DB-3F variant, the I-153 and Hurricane are good contenders as well and I really like them but if I had to choose only one, I think a true Soviet medium bomber is needed the most.

The IL-4 is a later plane so it wouldn't fit in Barbarossa, I think it's the same case with the Do 217, it would have been used at a later date in the Eastern Front. The He 100 only existed in prototype-pre-production state and didn't see combat service, so I think these three planes should be out of the poll.

Edited April 10, 2018 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[InProgress]

hs126, i hope it will be premium next to po2, these are similar planes, you can drop bombs, use it as spotter/recon, even have a small gun. Great for night bombing in stalingrad

But really hope for Do17 too. I don't know why he100/112 is even there it was a fail that never was mass produced or even used anywhere(?) but he113? That's something

[Chief_Mouser]

Odd plane set. The Il-4 is the Db-3F renamed in 1942, the few He100s were defending the Heinkel works, the Luftwaffe never used the He112 operationally and the Russians had no Hurricanes when Barbarossa took place.

That said, there are some aircraft on the list that I'd really like to see.

Edited April 10, 2018 by 216th_Cat

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

1 hour ago, 216th_Cat said:

Odd plane set. The Il-4 is the Db-3F renamed in 1942, the few He100s were defending the Heinkel works, the Luftwaffe never used the He112 operationally and the Russians had no Hurricanes when Barbarossa took place.

That said, there are some aircraft on the list that I'd really like to see.

How the poll be modified? I don't know how.

We could remove the He100 and the IL4. No problem. How?

Edited April 10, 2018 by PA_Spartan-

[Missionbug]

I would like all of them at some time but went for the Fw189 in this poll because I think we need a specific recon type although the Hs-126 would be equally appealing .

 

 

3 hours ago, 216th_Cat said:

 the Luftwaffe never used the He112 operationally and the Russians had no Hurricanes when Barbarossa took place.

 

 

Hurricane was used by Romania but I think remained at home, the He-112 was also used by Romania and did see combat use with advancing armies so we cannot base everything on what the Germans used, the Hurricane is also relevant for Stalingrad and Moscow maps though anyway.

 

IAR 80/81 also went forward with advancing Romanian forces and back the same way as they returned home later so really should be on the list.

 

Never easy to choose one type which is why I think the development team usually opt for ten.

 

 

Besides aircraft, what is really missing from the game is the ability to fly for other nationalities besides Germany and Russia then we might see a more varied aircraft set that takes that into account.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

Edited April 10, 2018 by Missionbug

[InProgress]

They used like 30 of he112 and lost 30% of it. Then it was just for training. Plus it was bad plane, I don't see point of wasting time and money on useless wreckage :/

Not until there will be nothing more to add.

 

Also you can fly as Hungarian, Finnish, Romanian. There is some skins for them, but it's all in your head to RP as one I heard there is some group of Spanish fans who gathered lots of info about Spanish unit in stalingrad and they work with devs to provide them with skins, biography, pictures etc. So there would be a Spanish unit to fly in campaign. (I think already is but not playable, you can see them as gray choice in carieer)

[Chief_Mouser]

3 hours ago, Missionbug said:

Hurricane was used by Romania but I think remained at home, the He-112 was also used by Romania and did see combat use with advancing armies so we cannot base everything on what the Germans used, the Hurricane is also relevant for Stalingrad and Moscow maps though anyway.

 

 

 

 

Specific poll is for Barbarossa, not the rest of the war. And, sorry Spartan but I don't know how to modify a poll.

 

Voted for the Su-2. I'd much rather there were an I-153 or Hs126, but the Il-2 was only just introduced and the Su-2 was there (until they were all shot down, being pretty useless). I'd like to see if I could survive in a career long enough to transition to the Il-2. Masochist tendencies...

Edited April 10, 2018 by 216th_Cat

[NETSCAPE]

Well from the luftwaffe perspective you're missing these significant planes:

 

Ju 87 B-2

He-111 H-4

Do 17 Z-2

 

Edit: I thought we were dreaming about a Op Barbarossa expansion instead of a single collector plane. Taking this into account I'd vote for the Fw 189 and next runner up the Storch! Both could be used in all the available BoX modules.

Edited April 11, 2018 by NETSCAPE

[ATAG_Flare]

Hurricane for sure. Such a neat aircraft, and suitable for a variety of theatres as well as Barbarossa. IL2: Battle of Murmansk anyone?

 

I just really like the Hurricane, alright?

 

The Su-2 would be cool to have as well, as would the DB3 bomber.

[Missionbug]

10 hours ago, 216th_Cat said:

 

Specific poll is for Barbarossa, not the rest of the war.

 

 

 

 

Yes, the Romanians were part of it which is why I mentioned those types in regards to that nation.

 

With the start of the Bessarabian campaign Hurricanes were primarily used to intercept Soviet bombers entering Romania, while the He-112 aircraft did actually participate more offensively in support of the invasion itself.

 

The scope of operation Barbarossa is huge and there are many aircraft that participated in some way from many participants, the fact the Hurricane is relevant to other maps was just a observation based on the overall purpose of Barbarossa which was to subjugate the Soviet Union.

 

So where exactly did Barbarossa end? 

 

Maybe defeat for the axis forces at Moscow and Stalingrad could I guess be end game in that respect because up to then each campaign was part of the original plan for Barbarossa.

 

 

The Blenheim could also be a viable option in the list as it can be argued it provided a much needed recon capability up to and including Stalingrad, as well as being used in the normal bomber role.

 

 

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Missionbug

[Chief_Mouser]

2 hours ago, Missionbug said:

 

 

Yes, the Romanians were part of it which is why I mentioned those types in regards to that nation.

 

 

 

Fair enough. I always tend to look at the southern end of Barabarossa as a separate operation, don't know why.

Cheers.

[Lusekofte]

Well I choose the DO 17 Z, and that is only because if we do not get it here we never will. All suggested are personal favorites for me. I like to see them all except from the HE fighters. SB 2 bombers would be a more historical correct plane for this. Most used bomber in this specific time, and was used by the @fins when afterward. Spanish Civilwar to end of Barbarossa is my  favorite aviation era. HS 123 and 126 appeal to me, even more than a FW 189. I love the JU 87 B . 

[Danziger]

Su-2 is a must have. 

[Roast]

Several on the list should actually be in a future Barbarossa plane set, but adding the i-153 Chaika is a good start

 

Loved that agile little biplane in the original Il-2 sim, and was rather disappointed when it wasn't included in neither

BoS nor BoM

 

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Thanks to all for your votes and comments. It very good for the whole community. The poll results are very interesting and the race to be the first is very close. Let's see what it happens. There is no limit of time.