Bf-109-G6 Template (4k) released (Update 01/05/2018)

[BOO]

Hi Rafi

 

Gimp user but ive done all the usual dragging stuff out of the group layers - the V.002 template is devoid of panel lines for the fuselage - the G6 lump lines are there but nothing more. The panel lines for the wings are also just a single black line.

 

[RaFiGer]

Hello Boo,

 

I think it is the way I reduce the lines and include all in connection with the Normal Map

Here are the layer in a dark version, I hope you could work wit them in this way!

 

Darkend Panel Layer Bf-109 G6

[BOO]

3 hours ago, RaFiGer said:

Hello Boo,

 

I think it is the way I reduce the lines and include all in connection with the Normal Map

Here are the layer in a dark version, I hope you could work wit them in this way!

 

Darkend Panel Layer Bf-109 G6

Thanks RaFi

 

I'm used to the dark line and the light edge of the lines. Ive taken the liberty of redoing all the panel lines to match your template. This is the black centre and two tones of outer to give a 3D depth effect. Ive also worked in a shadow layer. When I'm happy with them do you want me to send you the pngs of the 4 layers? 

[RaFiGer]

Hello Boo,

 

yes that would be very nice. Ive started already the new template for the Bf-109 G4 & G6 with a complete new layer. In some areas there are quite differencies in some areas not so the most chances are in correcting the rivet layout. As I wrote I will share these new templates when panels, hatches, bolt and rivets on the right place regarding factory drawings so I see taht I can count on you to convert it to a GIMP template?

 

[BOO]

45 minutes ago, RaFiGer said:

Hello Boo,

 

yes that would be very nice. Ive started already the new template for the Bf-109 G4 & G6 with a complete new layer. In some areas there are quite differencies in some areas not so the most chances are in correcting the rivet layout. As I wrote I will share these new templates when panels, hatches, bolt and rivets on the right place regarding factory drawings so I see taht I can count on you to convert it to a GIMP template?

 

yes you can

[Raptorattacker]

@RaFiGer

Yer a star!! Thanks mate.

[RaFiGer]

@Community

 

So, I've got a new book today, which will give me the rest of needed information for the Bf-109 Templates. It is in German Language and covers the whole Bf-109 Series in very high and good detail:

 

I can recommend it and would rate it five from five stars. Together with the other good books and the construction drawings I'm in a good mood to do a worth Template

[RaFiGer]

@Community

 

Please visit first post for updated version of the Bf-109 G6 Template

New improved version of Template for Bf-109 G6 (Version V.003, 29.04.2018)

 

Many improvements makes the Template now a more accurate and smoother version!

[BOO]

29 minutes ago, RaFiGer said:

@Community

 

Please visit first post for updated version of the Bf-109 G6 Template

New improved version of Template for Bf-109 G6 (Version V.003, 29.04.2018)

 

Many improvements makes the Template now a more accurate and smoother version!

Hi RaFiGer - the link to V003 isn't working I'm afraid - I get an error message offering me either v001 or V002

 

Cheers

 

BOO

[RaFiGer]

@BOO

 

Yes I messed it up It should be now corrected!!!  Thank you very much!

Copy & paste -> Stupid

[Pierre64]

Hi RaFiGer,

many thanks for this excellent and very detailed template.

A question for you and all 109 Experten, please : maybe with the help of your recently acquired documentation, could you verify if, on the right side of the fuselage, the compressed air circular hatch (red & blue outline)is really smaller than the oxygen hatch (white & blue outline) as shown so far on all Bf109 templates and skins, official or not, of the Il-2 Battle of xxx serie ?

On photographs, it seems they have the same size.

Pierre

[RaFiGer]

@Pierre64

 

That is a very good point, and it absolutely true both are the same size! Meaning the Hatch for pressured air for MK 108 is definitely the same size as the Oxygen hatch!

On the other G-Models (up to G5) it is for the MG 17, on the F-Model as connector for filling the pressured air accumulators.

As you could see on some "Werknummerblock" it was not even build in the fuselage or as written on the remarks build in but locked!

 

I will adapted that and upload a corrected one

 

Edited April 30, 2018 by RaFiGer

[RaFiGer]

@Community

 

I have added now the overworked Template in Version V003a with implementations of advices & suggestions by Pierre

Please follow Link to first Post!

Updated Template Bf-109 G6 Version V003a!

[Pierre64]

On 26/04/2018 at 10:11 AM, RaFiGer said:

 

I can recommend it and would rate it five from five stars.

Hi RaFiGer,

I followed your advice and ordered this book. It is more detailed than the older "Bf 109 Recognition Manual" by Marco Fernández-Sommerau.

A lot of precious and well documented details for our beloved 109s of all versions ! With confirmation of the slightly different location of the lift point on fuselage of K version...

[RaFiGer]

@ Pierre64,

 

I'm glad that you like it. The author in my opinion did a good job, and it is still good to get some new information

What do you think about the Stencil on Ailerons and Elevators? I choose the RLM 74 with is better than a lighter color?

[DetCord12B]

Outstanding work on the update, Rafi. I just wanna say thank you and to the other contributors that put all the hard work into this. 

 

Looking forward to the G14. 

 

EDIT - I image a G14 template based off the G6 one isn't going to be very easy, right? The rudder is completely different as is the canopy section just to name a few. You might be doing a lot of manual Photoshop work there Rafi. If you need any help let me know.

Edited May 11, 2018 by DetCord12B

[RaFiGer]

@DetCord12B,

 

thank you

But the G14 is not so difficult if you have the right documentation. I have already all necessary drawings and photo's so I'm confident to get a very good result!

And maybe there will be already a good template available in 4k ?!?

 

I do not know if 1CGS will start again with 2k and we have to bring it to 4k

 

But we will see and thank you for the really dam' good looking MOD of the Wehrmacht! And I'm also confident your late war skins will give a blow if it comes to G14

 

BTW:

I own this booklet, it has some nice profiles and I could scan these for you!

Review at FalkeEins Blog

 

And one more, here's a model made by a Turkish modeller based on the book (It's a G10 but it superb):

Captured Bf-109 G10 1945

Edited May 12, 2018 by RaFiGer
Information about book and model

[Wolfram-Harms]

Such a book must be a great help for all the detail! Interesting, how many small things have changed during the variations of the type.

 

Thanks to all you guys - a great G-6 template! Perhaps 777 would take it in, if you just gave it to them for free?

[RaFiGer]

@Wolfram-Harms,

 

yes, these books are really a very, very good source of information. Although they are showing what could be still done in regards of the 3D-Model

But anyway I also like the outcome of the Bf-109 G6 Template in connection with the Alpha and Normal Maps the In Game look is pretty nice and rises the hopes for future developments in the IL2-BOX series

 

The Template actually is free and if it would be possible to develope it more I'm in just in the way the other contributer will do and I like that you like it

 

And for me the best thing was always that the community likes, uses and appreciated the work of all the skinners including myself. Since 2002 I'm addicted to this series and still keen of all developements which will come up in the near future!

[Pierre64]

On 11/05/2018 at 5:50 PM, RaFiGer said:

@ Pierre64, (...) What do you think about the Stencil on Ailerons and Elevators? I choose the RLM 74 with is better than a lighter color?

[Nitpicking mode : on] Why not RLM 77 ? A lighter grey than RLM 74 known to be used for stenciling - and camouflage too :

see http://airwarpublications.com/product/luftwaffe-camouflage-commentary-1-rlm-77/

a downloadable article by David E. Brown at Air War Publication I recommend you to read.

On 11/05/2018 at 8:40 PM, Wolfram-Harms said:

Perhaps 777 would take it in, if you just gave it to them for free?

Maybe Dr RaFiGevil will give it to them for...

[Wolfram-Harms]

Does anyone of you historically educated skinner, which Afrikakorps brown was used for the units in Russian autumn?

Cause there are several possibilites. It could even be, that they received the early Afrikakorps colors, when the new ones were introduced?

 

Here is what I found from several sources; most of all from the article "RAL Farbe" in German WIKIPEDIA.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAL-Farbe

 

 

 

 

[RaFiGer]

@Community (to Pierre64 & Wolfram-Harms too)

 

Together with the help of Corto and the book Graf & Grislawski I'm doing some Bf-109 f & G-series skins related to both pilots. My first skins is of course one Bf-109 G6 and in special the one Alfred Grislawski was fling in late 1943 presented together with Graf's 109 for a propaganda session on 16 September 1943 in Wiesbaden-Erbenheim.

 

Here's the Blog Entry:

Blog Entry of FalkeEins covering JGr. 50 with Graf & Grislawski presenting their planes

 

My result so far:

 

Some more pictures you find here:

Spoiler

 

@Pierre64

 

Hey, I try RLM 77 it seems to light, but I will get some screenshots

Please have a look at the  pictures of the JGr.50 Grislawski plane, I think here RLM 74 is not a bad solution

 

 

@Wolfram-Harms

 

Thee are a lot discussions how the "Sandbrown" RLM 79 really was applied on the planes for the Africa Corps.

Just two links for the beginning and I will scan the articles from my books regarding colours for Africa

 

Luftwaffe Africa at rlm.at

RLM 79 on Bf-109 F series delivered to JG 5 in Norway

Edited May 14, 2018 by RaFiGer

[Wolfram-Harms]

Thanks for the info, RaFiGer. It is astonishing, that there seem to be no definite notes anywhere,

which color was used in Russia. That's why I asked - it is all still a lot of guess work.

 

So, I think I will make two or three skins with the old Afrikakorps Sand tone - after all, the remaining

production would have served well here, after the Afrikakorps switch to the new tones.

[Pierre64]

12 hours ago, RaFiGer said:

@Pierre64

 

Hey, I try RLM 77 it seems to light, but I will get some screenshots

Please have a look at the  pictures of the JGr.50 Grislawski plane, I think here RLM 74 is not a bad solution

 Look at these photographs found on amazing Marc-André Hadimann’s Flickr about late war Bf 109 Gs and Ks :

with some exceptions, doted lines look medium grey or dark (Red ? Black ?) and text looks dark (red or black ?)

[RaFiGer]

@Pierre64

 

I have this photo available, by which I decide to use a medium grey dotted line for the Elevators and the Ailerons:

Spoiler

 

 

 

Beside that as you could red it was possible to use a common red or black line. It is a bit confusing thou

 

Please, put any images with swastika under spoiler

Edited May 22, 2018 by BlackSix

[RaFiGer]

@Community

 

Sorry for delay on an update related to some issues also occuring on the G14 Template. But due to an eye inflammation I was not able to draw at all :(

But I will start again as soon as possible and update all three Templates when the eye inflammation is cured!

[szelljr]

Hi!!! RaFiGer can you help me?? if i put on the plane the 30 mm gun(not 100% sure) then appear that part on skin....why?? how?? when?...?

PS.:Ok i find that part in template. I just need to paint that part with that color ,no? lol It will be funny with the "American Flag" skin...oh mama.

Edited June 10, 2018 by szelljr

[szelljr]

30 minutes ago, melkarth said:

 

It seems there's something written on it...

 

 

 

c omon man...

[szelljr]

20 hours ago, szelljr said:

c omon man...

 But i still have  in all my G6 skins that f....g texture...Houston we have a problem!!

[PatCartier]

First look at this template: looks very nice ! Thank you !!

Should be pinned !

 

[DetCord12B]

On 8/9/2019 at 4:16 AM, PatCartier said:

First look at this template: looks very nice ! Thank you !!

Should be pinned !

 

 

It should but IRRC the devs are moving to a 4K template themselves from ICDP. That's great and all, but Rafi sank countless months into this project and it seems rather dismissive of them to do so. Just my 2c.

[schwarzerHund]

It seems that some folks using GIMP haven't had any problem opening RaFiGer's 109G6 4K template- but I have been unable to do so with either GIMP 2.8 or now the newer GIMP 2.10 version.  I don't have issues with some others' psd templates (ICDP's for example).  Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas to assist?  Thank you!

[sevenless]

On 5/14/2018 at 8:13 PM, RaFiGer said:

My result so far:

 

 

Was that beauty ever released somewhere? Can´t find it on RaFiGers page?

[schwarzerHund]

http://rafiger.de/Homepage/IL2-BOS-Museum/Info-Templates/Info-Templates.htm

 

[Hanu]

1 hour ago, SchwarzeHund said:

It seems that some folks using GIMP haven't had any problem opening RaFiGer's 109G6 4K template- but I have been unable to do so with either GIMP 2.8 or now the newer GIMP 2.10 version.  I don't have issues with some others' psd templates (ICDP's for example).  Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas to assist?  Thank you!

 

It is very heavy for the Gimp; especially for the early 2.10 versions. I've combined some layers and effects and after that it is manageable in Gimp.

[sevenless]

43 minutes ago, SchwarzeHund said:

http://rafiger.de/Homepage/IL2-BOS-Museum/Info-Templates/Info-Templates.htm

 

 

Nope. I have his Black 6 of JG 52. I was talking about that white ten of Grislawski from Jagdgruppe 50.

[RaFiGer]

Hello sevenless,

 

I have not released the skin yet, because of the wrong code of arms

But due to the Corona Crisis I think I will do some work so it wil be available in a short time. If its ready I will send it to you on short notice!

[Oyster_KAI]

@RaFiGer Your new G6 normal map file and skin made very well, if it is possible put it into official update?

Edited March 23, 2020 by Oyster_KAI

[RaFiGer]

Hello Oyster,

 

yes I will do that

[schwarzerHund]

17 hours ago, Hanu said:

 

It is very heavy for the Gimp; especially for the early 2.10 versions. I've combined some layers and effects and after that it is manageable in Gimp.

 

Thanks, Hanu- would it be possible- with RaFiGer's blessing- to make that GIMPable version available to those of us without PS? It looks amazing- and I would love to have an opportunity to put together some G6 skins- especially with BoN on the horizon.