KingstonDE Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks to the community and an interesting and heated discussion about a particular problem in this simulation and another much more serious problem has surfaced that takes a lot from what should actually be possible with what the developers have given us so far. I would like to ask you this question. Of course, there are many things that each one of us would pay for. This is not about a wish list (we think we have another thread) but 2 points from the discussion. Also, I would just ask for a simple answer with yes or no. Of course, with a price idea on your part, if possible. Because if it turns out that there is enough feedback from the community, it might be worthwhile for the developers to think about it. Then I would like to politely ask the developer and specify this clean thread as refenrenz. Thanks for your understanding. Maybe this will allow us to add another area to the community's desired additions. (We have the battles, collector planes, why not a techpack area too? So, now to the 2 points. The nice thing is it's all in a certain way in the game. 1. HuD, techchat, helpchat and ( gps on the map ). Maby only a problem from last patch? It would be nice if the developers would give us the opportunity to change the following for the player but also for the server admin. Of course, server settings override player settings in mp:- Turn everything on / off - Customize HuD display - Help chat on / off -techchat on / off, but with a new option "normal mode" ( the well-known Christmas tree we have now ) or "professional mode" Professional mode, as an example: As graphic display there is gray vertical line which have a moving smaller dark gray thicker line. For thrust, speed, mixture, oil cooler, water cooler, trim and flap position. In the series. No color coding, no short name, no %. Since not all aircraft require the same settings and to make it easier, the settings that are not used are not addressed, but are still visible. Since I can see the open/close, on/off, min/max and the middle range well through this display, it is up to the players who want to use the profi mode to train himslef which display is for what and where the settings for take off, cruise, fight and emergency services are. It should be displayed in the area of HuD and not on the right side, becasue of point 2. We can discuss the exact appearance if this change becomes possible. 2. ChatWould be great if the developers gave us the opportunity or would rebuild the chat so that your own coalition is now seen as before on the left side, but the general chat, with the server info, the killinfos and private communication on the right side. Also the possibility to restrict the general chat to the communication with each other and hide server info or killinfos. To get a clean chat, which in turn benefits the communication and thus makes it possible without TS to communicate with others and work together without general be disturbed by talk or unnecessary information. I would pay the price of an collector plane for this, up to a full game, depence of what is in the tech pack. I'm really looking forward to your opinion. regards Little_D Edited March 28, 2018 by 1./JG2_Little_D
Frenchy56 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No. I'll pay for planes, not features that should come in a free patch. 1 12
Warpig Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) No. This stuff is already paid for with the purchase of any game pack. Paying for expansions is fine. Paying extra for core game mechanics is robbery. This isn't even debatable, if we are to consider ethical business practices. This would be even worse than loot boxes, or "locked content".... Might as well just throw in Gold Ammo while we're at it.... Edited March 28, 2018 by Warpig 4
Danziger Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 I'm a millenial. I shouldn't have to pay for anything! 1 7 2
BM357_TinMan Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 um, No, not at all. The chat/HUD stuff has been mostly in a state of incompleteness from day one and the devs really need to finish it up. It was ok for a "let's get it out the door" temporary state of completeness but, really, it needs to be polished up and finished - preferable in v3.x not in the BoBp v4.x release. 2
PatrickAWlson Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Nothing "should have been" included except what was promised. If it wasn't promised then you haven't been robbed. Nothing is free. People write software to make money. Companies have to pay people to write software. I will not pay for this is perfectly legit. It's your money, you get to choose how you spend it. However, if you are not willing to pay then don't expect to get it. P.S. Anybody that thinks they are paying for planes only is delusional. The cost of non plane development is rolled into the price of the planes. You are paying for it. 9
dburne Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 My vote would be no as well. I am quite happy with what we have and very much look forward to future updates. These guys have done an incredible job over the last year and a half or so.
angus26 Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No, if this were to come out it shouldn’t be something you pay for.
keeno Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 It's a no from me. New planes...yes, new maps.....yes, but not for your suggestion. Cheers
Jetsun Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) No, the other way around, if anything those suggesting (nice) improvements should rather be paid... Edited March 28, 2018 by Jetsun
Mewt Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No. I'd love all these features too. But I'm sure all these features are on a list. A long list. A list that needs to be prioritised. Prioritised by a developer with limited resources. 1
-TBC-AeroAce Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) No. Actually a lack of streamlining, polishing and solving a lot of the smaller bug or things that don't work very well or as they should is making me not want to buy the next package. I think they need to take development time really polishing things before they move on to BOBP because if they don't these things will stay as they are. A lot of these small things that I am talking about would make a great game truly brilliant. Edited March 28, 2018 by AeroAce 1
CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 If the game is open up to mods, the things suggested in the original post might follow.
Ribbon Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 I'm sure devs wouldn't charge such feature, if it ever come i expect it'll be free core update for all expansions. But if it would be the case and they charge it, i don't know would i purchase it, maybe, but i wouldn't appreciate it. Maps and planes are things i lay my support on! S! 1
Lensman Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No. This way leads to different versions of the core mechanics for those choosing and able to pay. That is abhorrent and akin to the b.s stunts that companies like Ubi soft try on unsuspecting victims for profit. 1
coconut Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Yes I would. I care more about tech advances and new features than new planes. I pay money to various tool providers and operating systems for their new versions, and they don’t even come with planes! Just because the devs keep adding new features to the engine for free doesn’t mean we should expect this as a due.
[DBS]Browning Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Nope. I'll pay for things that aren't planes, but not this.
Solmyr Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 No. As said above by many people, I'll pay the needed price for : planes, maps, specific campaigns (we're quite border line here yet) and I'll send them nice chocolate box for Xmas, and I'll thank them every evening before going to bed, and I'll claim everywhere all the good I think about them, etc... But no, I'll not pay for mechanics of the game, or for a better UI, or a better MP, etc... because it's core of the game, because we paid yet for those things, and will continue to do so with every BoX they might make. 1 1
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Leaving aside the rambling nature of your post; No.
Feathered_IV Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 If there is absolutely no other way the devs would be persuaded to allow a smaller, less intrusive HUD display... then Yes. Yes I would pay.
sevenless Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Nope. Would only pay for a campaign pack that expands the game universe on Eastern Front to 1944 and beyond. Citadel, Bagration, Berlin to name a few.
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Most of these ‘want but don’t need’ things are more about time than just dollars. Unless you think the funding is going to be enough to permanently add another body to the DEV team it isn’t going to add one off type content short term. Taking a guy off of core game design to do this spot work isn’t going to happen no matter how much you are willing to pay. So, while it’s fine as an intellectual exercise, ultimately, it’s time over money. BTW: No BTW2: We get improvement and additional content with every patch and expansion. These things will get addressed over time where they can squeeze it in anyway. Edited March 29, 2018 by II/JG17_HerrMurf 1
Haza Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) I bought a car with a space saving spare that out in the wilderness is just wrong as if you needed to use it, it is limited in speed and distance, but it is still a spare wheel. Therefore, I paid to get a proper sized spare wheel. Therefore, yes, if something was on offer that I felt I could use, then i would pay for it! That said, if there were other additional bolt on things, such as skins, different engine for an aircraft, weapons or the ability to have my face in game as my pilot, then once again I would gladly pay! YES from me! Edited March 29, 2018 by Haza
Leon_Portier Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) A no from me aswell. The game follows a rolling release with patches and updates, so the development of new features is already paid for by buying expansions or collector planes. I do not see a reason to have a feature behind a paywall which is a general addition. Edit: Insert "live game" reference here. Edited March 29, 2018 by Leon_Portier
JSOflyer69 Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Nope it’s a expensive enough as it is,plus having to pay for collector planes,ok full marks to the devs for a great product but hey it’s not the cheapest out there!
Retrofly Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Never. If anything it just starts becoming a slippery slope.
SCG_Fenris_Wolf Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 To clarify, I said no, because I expect that to be part of the general new releases (BoBP for example), patches and fixes. I already invested into a "tech pack" by buying Kuban and BoBP early, plus all collector planes available.
CountZero Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) I understand the OP and at this point i would rather pay for fixes to Dserver, netcode, more range then 9,5km and other MP related bugs then buy any extra airplane, as i dont wont to wait for years for thouse things to get on the list of to do. BUT i undrstand that that will never happend and as MP crowd is smallest part of game it would be crazy to do it that way, as more money they can get with new collectors airplane or new small map for example because SP and MP guys would invest in that in biigger numbers and together, then some small DLC that only cater to small parts of crowd like this tech pack would do, or MP pack or any other pack. So still best way to get what you wont (if you have extra money) is to buy their extra airplanes like ju52 for example and others and hope they will get enought to hire more guys with other expantions coming in this year. Edited March 29, 2018 by 77.CountZero 1
PatrickAWlson Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 The idea of charging money for a bug fix package is not a good one. It's just a bad visual. However, the idea that they are free is also kind of silly. You are paying for them. The cost is just packaged in the map or plane that you are buying. 5
Frenchy56 Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said: The idea of charging money for a bug fix package is not a good one. It's just a bad visual. However, the idea that they are free is also kind of silly. You are paying for them. The cost is just packaged in the map or plane that you are buying. Didn't you say the exact same thing already?
Solmyr Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 8 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said: The idea of charging money for a bug fix package is not a good one. It's just a bad visual. However, the idea that they are free is also kind of silly. You are paying for them. The cost is just packaged in the map or plane that you are buying. I guess we all agree with this.
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