Other versions of the P-39?

[Rebel_Scum]

Since we have multiple versions of the 109, the Yak, and the La-5, will we be seeing different versions of the P-39, like one of the Qs?

[Ehret]

I don't know but after comparing manuals the P-39Q could be a decent choice for collector plane.

 

The Q has better climb, acceleration, improved performance at altitude and better armament. However, the L should remain a better diver and faster at low alt. There are differences in WEP limits too - the Q manual states 1420hp for 5m. The L has 1550hp but only for 2m.

 

[Finkeren]

No disrespect to the OP, but this kind of “will we ever see...?”-thread is a strange phenomenon.

 

We all know perfectly well what’s coming down the pipeline: BoBP, Tank Crew, Flying Circus and possibly 3rd party Po-2 and Li-2. That’s more than enough for the next 1 1/2 - 2 years, and beyond that everything’s uncertain and nothing has been planned yet for sure.

 

The answer to the question of “will we ever see X, Y and Z?” will therefore almost always be, that there are no current plans for this.

[BOO]

24 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

No disrespect to the OP, but this kind of “will we ever see...?”-thread is a strange phenomenon.

 

We all know perfectly well what’s coming down the pipeline: BoBP, Tank Crew, Flying Circus and possibly 3rd party Po-2 and Li-2. That’s more than enough for the next 1 1/2 - 2 years, and beyond that everything’s uncertain and nothing has been planned yet for sure.

 

The answer to the question of “will we ever see X, Y and Z?” will therefore almost always be, that there are no current plans for this.

perhaps but then expressing a wish, desire (within reason) or suggestion never hurts since it allows the devs to potentially gauge the interest. How many times was the Po2 and Li2 a "will we ever see" or even the Ju52?

 

Ill have it with the repeated B17 requests since the reasons for not are well known if anyone cares to look first but other stuff.....its nice to dream. 

 

BTW - will we ever have the P61? :-)

 

[Royal_Flight]

48 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

The answer to the question of “will we ever see X, Y and Z?” will therefore almost always be, that there are no current plans for this.

 

That's not really the answer to what the question is asking.

The roadmap is reasonably clear for what happens in the mid-term, but beyond that no-one has any idea.

The devs are reasonably interactive within this community so it's always worth raising things in discussions as if they see enough interest then we may well get what we ask for.

 

The 109G-6, the La-5FN, flyable Ju-52, possible Po-2/Li-2, Tank Crew, Flying Circus, DX11 and VR, binning the unlock system, career mode, and Bodenplatte were all at least partly driven by discussion and feedback from the users in the community, in this forum and others. 

 

Jason is always going on about the funding of BoX and the devs know if they give people what they want then people will buy copies of the game, and the unlock fiasco will have shown them that if they make enough unprofitable decisions they'll lose out. 

Im not sure to what extent forum chat is a factor in the decision to create new releases but I'd say it plays a part. 

 

So providing feedback via threads like these is good for everyone.

Plus speculation and discussing things we want is fun, and we're all a group of enthusiasts who enjoy these details anyway. 

[A_radek]

I'm a die hard p-39 fan, but additional versions of it are very low on my wish list. The L we have fits our timeline and while it received enhancements later on I feel it was much like the p-40N. Too little too late. If one was after a 'better' p-39 that is.

Now about that I-153 though..

[Brano]

 USSR started to receive them in summer 1943. Each block was a bit different,mainly fuel tanks volume varied and armor protection (rear armor glass replaced with metal plate etc...) Some tail section reinforcements were also introduced. Rifle calibre brownings replaced with 12.7mm in underwing gondolas could be done as other aircrafts have it now = weapon modification. Engine would have to be tuned for 85 model.

Q-15 block could be representative for any 1944 scenario on eastern front. We dont have such yet. If it will (ever) be included,I think devs will have as much job to do as with different Bf-109G models we (will) have.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Brano

[ShamrockOneFive]

If an early enough New Guinea or Guadalcanal scenario happened we might see a P-39D of some sort.

[BlitzPig_EL]

1 hour ago, a_radek said:

 the p-40N. Too little too late.

 

 

Well, except for the fact that the P40N was the most produced model of Hawk 87, and was built till November of 1944...

[A_radek]

2 hours ago, a_radek said:

Too little too late. If one was after a 'better' p-39 that is.

 

14 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Well, except for the fact that the P40N was the most produced model of Hawk 87, and was built till November of 1944...

As I find these aircraft wishing discussions often revolve around wanting increased performance, it was performance I referred to. Not quantity

[PatrickAWlson]

8 hours ago, Finkeren said:

No disrespect to the OP, but this kind of “will we ever see...?”-thread is a strange phenomenon.

 

We all know perfectly well what’s coming down the pipeline: BoBP, Tank Crew, Flying Circus and possibly 3rd party Po-2 and Li-2. That’s more than enough for the next 1 1/2 - 2 years, and beyond that everything’s uncertain and nothing has been planned yet for sure.

 

The answer to the question of “will we ever see X, Y and Z?” will therefore almost always be, that there are no current plans for this.

For major work that is true - i.e. don't hold your breath waiting for the Pacific.  However, if a collector plane can be made for a reasonable sum with a reasonable ROI then I think that is an out of band possibility.  I think that the current crop of collector planes are all example of that.  All about resources, priorities, and ROI.

[Finkeren]

1 hour ago, PatrickAWlson said:

For major work that is true - i.e. don't hold your breath waiting for the Pacific.  However, if a collector plane can be made for a reasonable sum with a reasonable ROI then I think that is an out of band possibility.  I think that the current crop of collector planes are all example of that.  All about resources, priorities, and ROI.

 

I may be pessimistic about this, but I think, that if they were to do any out-of-left-field collector’s planes. I think they would choose aircraft that could be used to flesh out the plane set of BoBP, not Eastern Front planes.

[PatrickAWlson]

Just now, Finkeren said:

 

I may be pessimistic about this, but I think, that if they were to do any out-of-left-field collector’s planes. I think they would choose aircraft that could be used to flesh out the plane set of BoBP, not Eastern Front planes.

 

Hard to say.  They are a Russian outfit and IMHO that is where the heart of the development team remains.  BoBP is a bone to American and British supporters, and maybe a necessary and wise one for cash flow.  But I suspect if money were not an issue we would continue  to see development in the east  well into 1944.  Not sure if anything interesting happens after that in terms of the eastern front plane set.

[Ehret]

5 hours ago, a_radek said:

 

As I find these aircraft wishing discussions often revolve around wanting increased performance, it was performance I referred to. Not quantity

 

This strongly dependents on the subversion of the P-40N. The lightened version was a significant upgrade to previous models and few hundreds were made.

[Rebel_Scum]

Okay, so maybe another P-39 isn't what we need.  That would be a P-63 collector plane.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Rebel_Scum

[Rebel_Scum]

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...this kind of “will we ever see...?”-thread is a strange phenomenon.

 

Strange?  Oh come on, this type of request is not at all unusual, unless you intended "strange" to mean something other that it's dictionary definition.  And no, I'm not trying to be facetious.  On the contrary, I think it's important for the devs to know what I, as a consumer of their products, would like to see in the future, even if they can't produce everything exactly the way I want it.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but your reply seems to be at odds with what I believe is a perfectly reasonable sentiment.

[ShamrockOneFive]

1 hour ago, Rebel_Scum said:

 

Strange?  Oh come on, this type of request is not at all unusual, unless you intended "strange" to mean something other that it's dictionary definition.  And no, I'm not trying to be facetious.  On the contrary, I think it's important for the devs to know what I, as a consumer of their products, would like to see in the future, even if they can't produce everything exactly the way I want it.  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but your reply seems to be at odds with what I believe is a perfectly reasonable sentiment.

 

It was a fair question and you asked it respectfully. Don't worry about the rest of it

[Trooper117]

I think it's important that people are allowed to make requests for what they want to see in game, be it improvements, fm/dm alterations, aircraft requests etc... the only provision I would make against it however is if the dev's have repeatedly said no to something (heavy bombers springs to mind).

I will constantly ask and make upvotes for the things I would dearly love to see, and hopefully one day the Jason and crew will oblige me 

Hurricane, Fw 189, I-153, Mc 200 to name a slack handful would be very handy, not forgetting of course some later P-39 variants.