TWC_Ace Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Quote Hello all, Finally, I am happy to announce that new VKB products are on their way to EU store. It took extra time as our manufacturing department had to spend additional efforts to improve durability of MCG grips based on the feedback we got from early customers. Now, the batch for EU is fully completed, tested and on its way to Rotterdam, NL. It will take several weeks to arrive to the Netherlands and get cleared. So the shipping will be started in April. Sorry for delay for one month but it was required to improve quality of our products. What we will offer for EU customers: Gunfighter Mk.II Pro/non-Pro with MCG Pro/non-Pro grip with En/Ru engravings Gunfighter Mk.II KG12 T-Rudder Mk.IV Basically we are going to offer the full range of Gunfighter Mk.II line. We never start accepting orders for new products if availability date may slip and could not be secured. As we have now concrete dates for availability of items in stock, I am going to open the ordering. In order to do so, the website will be migrated to the new platform these days so please expect that the website will be closed for couple of days. Best regards, Eduard https://flightsimcontrols.com/2018/03/new-vkb-products-are-on-their-way-to-eu/ Now lets wait for the new website to see the prices. Also Im very currious how the non pro Gunfighter will look like (would it have a throttle on the base unlike a pro?). Edited March 23, 2018 by blackram
Sokol1 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Gunfighter "non PRO" is (Gunfighter) base without the 20 cm extension - or is just an desktop version. Example, with MCG PRO grip -can use MCG "non PRO" or KG-12B (until stocks of this discontinued grip model last) or Cougar/Warthog grips with VKB electronic adapter. Edited March 23, 2018 by Sokol1
TWC_Ace Posted March 23, 2018 Author Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) But there is no sense in releasing mid range product (non pro Gunfighter) without a throttle lever on base... Edited March 23, 2018 by blackram
Seb71 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 It's the same base (same gimbal). Poor naming choice (Gunfighter and Gunfighter Pro), especially when they had Gladiator and Gladiator Pro, which were very different.
dburne Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Well nice I guess to see some MCG's are actually shipping somewhere...
KpaxBos Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Hello, Can you remove the gunfighter pro extension and use it without this extension ? Be Happy.
Sokol1 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, blackram said: But there is no sense in releasing mid range product (non pro Gunfighter) without a throttle lever on base... Gunfighter "vanilla" (no PRO) is not a mid range product, is just a desktop option of Gunfighter base - developed since the start to use extension. "Mid range" could be the (almost deceased) Gladiator PRO. Can you remove the gunfighter pro extension and use it without this extension ? Can, but need get the big square plate from VKB (is not listed in accessories) to use as desktop joystick (or improvise something).
=EXPEND=Tripwire Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 My Gunfighter Pro came with the large plate to use on a desktop if so desired, along with the extension and small plate.
Seb71 Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, =EXPEND=Tripwire said: My Gunfighter Pro came with the large plate to use on a desktop if so desired, along with the extension and small plate. Yes, this is how it is described in the US VKB store. Gunfighter Pro includes everything that Gunfighter has (so the large base plate, cams and springs) + the small base plate + extension + a set of #50 "extra strong" springs.
dburne Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 My Gunfighter Pro is still sitting here in the box, awaiting the MCG Pro grip. Have had the Gunfighter for almost a year now.
BOO Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 I got sick of waiting so went with Virpil and their sale but damn that Gunfighter looks nice!
dburne Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BOO said: I got sick of waiting so went with Virpil and their sale but damn that Gunfighter looks nice! Yeah that is my only saving grace, I have had my Virpil setup for some time now , and am absolutely loving it! So smooth, so precise, and I have a ton of hours on it now. To be honest if I had not already invested so much in the Gunfighter setup ( including Monster Tech extended Mount), I would not have bothered trying to get it going at this point. If I ever do get the grip, will probably just use it for some of the more complex DCS aircraft that I have not set up for the Virpil rig yet. Edited March 23, 2018 by dburne
BOO Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 The absence of anything but the £400 plus MCG/Gunfighter pro combi in the likely euro line up pushed me over the edge. To rich for me when I had enough time to think about it. I think ill be happy enough with the Mongoose CM though but may buy the grip one day if it even becomes available with the right adapter just to ease my GAS.
TWC_Ace Posted March 23, 2018 Author Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sokol1 said: Gunfighter "vanilla" (no PRO) is not a mid range product, is just a desktop option of Gunfighter base - developed since the start to use extension. "Mid range" could be the (almost deceased) Gladiator PRO. Gladiator pro isnt mid range product according to its price and all metal gimbal mechanism. Midrange was non pro Gladiator and since the stupid decision of stopping its production money will go somewhere else because Gladiator mk3 non pro we wouldnt see before next winter. Edited March 23, 2018 by blackram
Marrond Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) God I really hope they finally do something with EU site... it's such a turn off + the constant availability black holes... Alright, let's give it a shot - I'm waiting for the new site being up and ordering flood gates open. But I don't have high hopes. I'm trying to get one of high-end VKB products since Mamba was a thing but since I was never super hardcore about it spamming F5 for months, placing an order was an impossibility. Probably should've ordered direct from China and be done with this circus... On 3/23/2018 at 1:28 PM, Sokol1 said: Gunfighter "non PRO" is (Gunfighter) base without the 20 cm extension - or is just an desktop version. Does Gunfighter Pro have base plate for desktop use included or do I need to make my own until I finish my cockpit build? Edited March 30, 2018 by Marrond
Sokol1 Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 Accord specifications in FSC page Gunfighter PRO include two plates, a big for desktop use without extension and a smaller for bolt in cockpit/support for use with extension. https://flightsimcontrols.com/store/joysticks/vkb-sim-gunfighter-pro/
Guest deleted@134347 Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 they canceled my pre-order for MCG I placed in October. That's pretty much the nail in the coffin for VKB in my book.
dburne Posted April 2, 2018 Posted April 2, 2018 3 hours ago, moosya said: they canceled my pre-order for MCG I placed in October. That's pretty much the nail in the coffin for VKB in my book. Wow now that is pretty bad... I have certainly not been much impressed with them of late.
Macross Posted April 8, 2018 Posted April 8, 2018 Eu store is under maintenance now, so in next 1-2 days, it should be open and gunfighter + mcg should be on sale. And yes, they cancelled all pre-orders for mcg, because it has been big hassle from start. They told that its really big amount of gunfighters and mcg:s they are getting to inventory, so everyone who are buying, is getting one.
Marrond Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 19 hours ago, Macross said: Eu store is under maintenance now, so in next 1-2 days, it should be open and gunfighter + mcg should be on sale. And yes, they cancelled all pre-orders for mcg, because it has been big hassle from start. They told that its really big amount of gunfighters and mcg:s they are getting to inventory, so everyone who are buying, is getting one. What do you mean 1-2 days, it says new store would be up and running today. Was I pressing F5 repeatedly like a maniac since 1am for nothing?! As for the big amounts that will be enough for everyone - yeah they've said the same with every other Mamba batch that has vanished in a blink of an eye, jokes on us I suppose...
dburne Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Marrond said: What do you mean 1-2 days, it says new store would be up and running today. Was I pressing F5 repeatedly like a maniac since 1am for nothing?! As for the big amounts that will be enough for everyone - yeah they've said the same with every other Mamba batch that has vanished in a blink of an eye, jokes on us I suppose... Yep they have been saying that for quite some time...
Marrond Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 9pm GMT, store still dead. F5 broken and need replacing.... welp. Edited April 9, 2018 by Marrond 1
TWC_Ace Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 Quote Update 10.04.2018 The work is in progress to migrate the store to the new platform and new payment system. It will take few more days to complete migration and tests. In the meanwhile, I would like to inform that when the site is online we will offer also MCG grips for rev. A socket which is compatible with previously sold Gunfighter Mk.I and Gladiator Pro Mk.II models. I wonder why there isnt an MCG grip compatible with Gladiator Pro MK1....
Seb71 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, blackram said: I wonder why there isnt an MCG grip compatible with Gladiator Pro MK1.... They said a 5-pin version of MCG/MCG Pro will be available.
Marrond Posted April 14, 2018 Posted April 14, 2018 Next deadline for site/shop update is Monday. Bets, anyone?
Picchio Posted April 15, 2018 Posted April 15, 2018 It seems that Eduard agrees with May as a rough estimate regarding when any items will effectively be shipped to customers...
TWC_Ace Posted April 18, 2018 Author Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Some more news but Im not sure if I understood google translate correctly. Maybe someone can translate. Мы поменяли производственные планы. Будет версия Гладиатора с ручкой MCG. Уже идет производство. We changed production plans. There will be a Gladiator version with an MCG pen. Production is already underway. У кого уже куплен стандартный Гладиатор, тот сможет заказать металлический апгрейд штока для него. И установить MCG Также у нас будут в продаже только базы Гладиаторов, с уже установленным металлическим штоком. Who has already bought a standard Gladiator, he can order a metal stock upgrade for him. And install MCG Also we will have only Gladiator bases, with an already installed metal rod. Edited April 18, 2018 by blackram
Sokol1 Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 Looks like this post is relative to kit 'Lite" - only available once, for Gladiator "vanilla" owners install MCG grips: https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gladiator-upgrade-kit-lite
TWC_Ace Posted April 18, 2018 Author Posted April 18, 2018 nope, this was answered today by UIV from VKB...
Picchio Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 The new european store is up and running! ... but the "Register" link isn't operative. Worked fine for me because I wanted to placed an order and my account was created, but for now it seems like it's bugged
TWC_Ace Posted April 22, 2018 Author Posted April 22, 2018 Only pedals and gunfighter in the EU store. And we cant buy anything else including replacement springs. What kind of drugs VKG europe is taking. Look at the US store. On a positive note pedals are cheaper now.
Piekarz Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 from Today's official newsletter: In few days MCG grips for rev.A socket will be announced with estimated shipping date of the end of May/June. Rudder Mk.IV pedals are also re-stocked offering better price. Please, note that shipping of all Gunfighter and T-Rudder orders are planned to start after the 3rd of May 2018 .
dburne Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Piekarz said: from Today's official newsletter: In few days MCG grips for rev.A socket will be announced with estimated shipping date of the end of May/June. Rudder Mk.IV pedals are also re-stocked offering better price. Please, note that shipping of all Gunfighter and T-Rudder orders are planned to start after the 3rd of May 2018 . And the beat goes on... 1
kalbuth Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 Aaannnnd... they are already out of stock of Gunfighter Pro base & MCG Pro, so it seems. Congrat VKB Europe for surpassing you, once again
Marrond Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, kalbuth said: Aaannnnd... they are already out of stock of Gunfighter Pro base & MCG Pro, so it seems. I'm glad I've ordered mine as soon as site went up instead of waiting few more days for a payday - shame I probably wont make it for Virpil's throttle pre-order discount tho. I knew "there will be enough for everyone" is again just typical VKB bullshit estimate - they ALWAYS have some unreasonably silly numbers for Europe since Fat King Cobra first was a thing... fingers crossed to get it before June because again, "after May 3rd" could mean literally anything in their tongue...
Sokol1 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) via Imgflip Meme Generator Edited April 24, 2018 by Sokol1 1 1
Guest deleted@134347 Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 lol.. the twist is "you've pre-ordered a pre-order" it means only SOME of you will be lucky enough to receive it in the end.
TWC_Ace Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Anyways I was closer to Crosswinds....now theres no doubt which pedals I will buy..... Edited April 24, 2018 by blackram
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