critical_mach Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Now that we have the server integrated into the game client, I'd love to see them add an option where you can set up a flight like you do in the quick mission creator. A lot of times, my friend and I just want to dogfight or coop taking down some bombers or fighters, or just flying around searching for ground targets. I'm still really slow in the mission builder, but have made a couple missions that kind of accomplished this. I'd put a static truck on the ground with a very narrow trigger around it, so when you fly over the truck, it spawns a set of planes that follow waypoints. Had different trucks for different planes, but it's still lacking. I love the feeling of coming over a hill and seeing artillery fire arcing across in front of you, or the telltale white puff of a locomotive in the distance, or the white streaks on the water from a boat. I haven't been able to find much in the way of user created MP missions short of very accurate historical missions where either side has to navigate and fly for about ten minutes to meet. 1
CountZero Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Yes that would be nice, some times you just wont quick Df with m8 and berloga tends to get lagy now, chek 72AG training server or LwS training mabye thats mission similar to what you wont, i go there for quick df or ground atack, check6 server was perfect for that, it would be nice if they could share mission also for others to use if posible now when anyone can host. Edited March 20, 2018 by 77.CountZero 1
imdancin Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) I was really hoping that we would have something like this with the new coop mode, as it stands now it hasn't changed much for those of us who just want to do simple missions with our friends. I was looking forward to finally being able to easily hop in an impromptu session with my buddies and just have some fun, but we don't seem to be any closer to that. And its not like there's much content being made for coop by the community either. Edited March 21, 2018 by imdancin
NETSCAPE Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, imdancin said: I was really hoping that we would have something like this with the new coop mode, as it stands now it hasn't changed much for those of us who just want to do simple missions with our friends. I was looking forward to finally being able to easily hop in an impromptu session with my buddies and just have some fun, but we don't seem to be any closer to that. And its not like there's much content being made for coop by the community either. Co-Op was just released... I have a few missions planned already. Just give it time and people will be pumping out missions. What it sounds like you want would be pretty simple to create for a co-Op mission. In-Air spawn of planes that you and your friend can play as, intercept enemy planes, land and call it a day... The missions I have in mind are historically based and more complex...basically think of a "solid" scripted single player mission, but where you can play with your friends.
imdancin Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, NETSCAPE said: What it sounds like you want would be pretty simple to create for a co-Op mission. In-Air spawn of planes that you and your friend can play as, intercept enemy planes, land and call it a day... I know its not too complex to make, which is why I was hoping that there would be more than one coop mission included with the mode. I've done mission editing in DCS and Arma pretty extensively but I really do not like the IL-2 editor so I would like to avoid that if I can. Fair enough to point out that community will be making missions soon and thank you so much for contributing to that. Something like the Quick Mission generator for multiplayer would honestly be amazing though. Side question, do you know if its possible to take missions generated in the new singleplayer career campaigns and import them into multiplayer? I would be very willing to jump through some editor hoops to make that happen.
NETSCAPE Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 No I'm afraid we don't have access to any of the "official" works. I have only made singleplayer content, so I am unsure about some possible multiplayer/coop aspects needed to make a great mission. However, in theory, it shouldn't be too hard to "convert" some great single player missions to co-op missions. I see all sorts of potential and options for coop. But at the same time I am not sure what the community wants. I think I should probably make a community poll. For example, do you want to fly with some friends ONLY against AI? Or do you want human players on the enemy team as well?
imdancin Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, NETSCAPE said: I see all sorts of potential and options for coop. But at the same time I am not sure what the community wants. I think I should probably make a community poll. For example, do you want to fly with some friends ONLY against AI? Or do you want human players on the enemy team as well? I can't speak for the rest of the community, but the coop experience I'm looking for is basically a campaign mission but with my buddies flying the other planes in the flight. Some randomness in the composition/numbers of the enemies and other friendly flights would be awesome but I realize that makes it a bit more difficult on the creator. I'm not very interested in having enemy players involved, this would be something that I would play with my group in a closed server. My best flight sim experiences have always been flying with a few friends and saving each other's asses, when enemy players get involved it feels too competitive.
NETSCAPE Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Here are my notes on the my first coop idea: (I could make all the Russian stuff unplayable, scripted AI sorties too though.) The Air Bridge Stalingrad Pocket, November 29th overcast, occasional snowfall, temperature +3°C In the 48 hours between November 28 and the 30th, 36 Ju52s departed for the pocket to supply the 6th Army. Only 12 landed, bringing just 24 tons of supplies. The remaining lost their way in the clouds or fell victim to enemy fighters. KGrzbV 50 6 x Ju 52 (two Kette in-air start, west/south-west of the pocket) Mission: land and unload Cargo at Pitomnik Airfield Callsign: Pelican Platzshutzstaffel 4 x Bf 109 G-2 (on-runway Pitomnik) Mission: protect Pitomnik Airfield and ensure Cargo is delivered safely Callsign: Hawk Stuka Sonderstaffel 6 x Ju 87 D-3 (two Kette parked Pitomnik) Mission: attack enemy artillery positions Callsign: Raven --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Srednaya Akhutuba Airfield: 293rd IAP 4 x Yak-1 ser. 69 (parked) Mission: deny German supplies to the pocket Callsign: Eagle 27th IAP 2 x LA-5 ser. 8 (in-air start) Mission: escort the IL-2's of 618th ShAP Callsign: Rook 618th ShAP 4 x IL-2 mod 1942 (on runway) Mission: attack enemy artillery positions Callsign: Crane
imdancin Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 That sounds really fun! I think that all the slots could be playable as long as the AI would take over if nobody slotted into one (not sure if this is possible in IL-2). I really like the idea of being able to play a scenario from either side. Looking forward to playing this for sure.
NETSCAPE Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 Yes to my understanding with coop mode, all the planes are AI, and humans can jump in them. (as long as the mission designer permits "coop" start on any specific plane) 1
CountZero Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, imdancin said: I can't speak for the rest of the community, but the coop experience I'm looking for is basically a campaign mission but with my buddies flying the other planes in the flight. Some randomness in the composition/numbers of the enemies and other friendly flights would be awesome but I realize that makes it a bit more difficult on the creator. I'm not very interested in having enemy players involved, this would be something that I would play with my group in a closed server. My best flight sim experiences have always been flying with a few friends and saving each other's asses, when enemy players get involved it feels too competitive. I dont know anything on how to make missions here (just because in lazy to learn it here), and in 1946 was easy to make coop mission from single player mission just by unticking player on players flight, here i tryed to load single player mission in mision builder and remove player and save mission as cooperative and i see mission in coop mode but i cant see mission in selection when i wont to host it, so im not doing something right, but with time i dont think it will be hard to convert them. Regarding quick generator of campaign type missions download PWCG, it has coop option and you set your campaign and it generates coop mission for you in coop folder, so only thing you do then is host it, and your flight is visable to you and frends to take while rest of AI is not so you dont know whats coming, i didnt care mutch about PWCG before but when coop was out i downloaded it imidiatly and tested. Thats good way to generate ramdom coop missions. simple to use. And when logs get fixed you can probably play it like coop campaign, i didnt bather to check how that would track my and frends stats, but all this is new so it will take some time to see whats posible. Also now im sure there is more people who wont to see how mission maker here works and youll see more missions come out, i would also like to see some simple ones, even few for tanks and so on... it will come with time, maybe topic with coop suggestions should be opened also. Edited March 21, 2018 by 77.CountZero
imdancin Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said: Regarding quick generator of campaign type missions download PWCG, it has coop option and you set your campaign and it generates coop mission for you in coop folder, so only thing you do then is host it, and your flight is viable to you and frends to take while rest of AI is not so you dont know whats coming, i didn't care much about PWCG before but when coop was out i downloaded it immediately and tested. Thats good way to generate random coop missions. simple to use. I've downloaded and installed the latest version of PWCG, and I can't see to find any coop option anywhere. Can you tell me exactly how to use the coop option in PWCG?
CountZero Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Open PWCGBos.exe and double click on Configuration (on left side) when menu shows up, and when new window opens, click on User Preferances (right side of windoe) and it should show new window with options in middle. Where last line should be Use Coop: 0, change that to 1, and save it by clicking on Accept Config Changes. And then start new campaign, like you did for any single player mission in PWCG before, and missions will automaticly be saved in cooperative folder of game, and visable for you when you go host coop mission in mulltiplayer section of BoX game. Edited March 21, 2018 by 77.CountZero 1
Boomtap Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Dude count me in, would love that option. I'm digging around the forums lookin for missions and such so my boys and I can go wreak havoc. This would be perfect for like a quick jump into action kinda option so we can just crank it after a few minutes prep.
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Wait...wait...wait... I can use PWCG as a pseudo mission generator? Really?
Nocke Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 if you don't take care PWCG does generate really heavy missions, though. My first and only intent to host a PWCG generated mission in a Coop ended in a stutter and server overload disaster. May have been due to 6 Pe2s trying to take off together. Need to retry with fewer planes, and fighters only. And, the mission file was like 13 MB, took a while to load for everybody.
Skid Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Yes, I would like to see a Quick Multiplayer Mission Option... especially for private coop missions... 1
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