So, what do you think of the G-6?

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Wait wait wait.  The limiter has been removed from the G2???

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

Maybe your squad got some G-4s and you were assigned one without noticing it in a mission? The other members of your flight having G-2s or a mix of both

[ShamrockOneFive]

Easy way to tell if you have a G-2 or a G-4 is to have a look down at your wings from the cockpit. If you see little bulges then you have a G-4 which is probably what you were flying

I've only got a few minutes with the Bf109G-6 but I have to say that the added firepower is very much appreciated. I did try the MK108 which is fun but even without I feel like I'm hitting quite a lot harder when I open up on target. I can't say that this is my favourite version but it feels a lot less hamstrung than the G-6 in IL-2: Forgotten Battles ever was and I'd happily fly it.

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, Panthera said:

 

Well the G6/AS is a G6, and as I was telling Kemp it addressed the performance gap up to the La-5FN. In short I wasn't talking about the 1943 variant we have for Kuban.

 

My "claim", which really wasn't any such thing, was that MW50 became std. with the introduction of the G6/AS, which AFAIK was the sole G6 variant produced from march 44(?) on until the G14. In other words AFAIK 109's produced from then on came with MW50 as standard.

 

You really do like to use that term "AFAIK" instead of providing tangible sources to back up your claims.

Edited March 21, 2018 by LukeFF

[Panthera]

11 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

You really do like to use that term "AFAIK" instead of providing tangible sources to back up your claims.

 

You really like to make snide remarks. 

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

I really enjoyed the G6 on test, haven't had the time/money to get one though. My favorite part is the MG131s. Such a blast to use 

[Ribbon]

Lufties being quiet means it's good!

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

Lol, what logic

[Finkeren]

I have not flown it online, but from my SP experience with it, it’s hard to imagine, what anyone would complain about. It flies exactly like a slightly heavier and more draggy G4, but it compensates by packing a mighty, but quite believable, punch.

 

Any criticism you could raise against it would be a critique of the way the sim models the Bf 109 in general.

 

Also: It is one of the cooler looking 109s and the skins are just awesome.

[Panthera]

Well things can only improve once they get around to correcting the "prop efficiency".

Edited March 21, 2018 by Panthera

[ITAF_Rani]

G6 punch hard !!

Well done

[D3adCZE]

109G6 is beautiful plane.

1)Got LA5FN on 6

2)Pop flaps

3)Start rolling scissors

4)Pop flaps

5)Throttle to 0

6)Wait till follower overshoots since he cannot slow down as fast as you can

7)Put nose up

8)Slight touch on the trigger

9)Enjoy fireworks*

 

*Disclaimer: In case of enemy pilot being an ACE this point might become 2nd and last point at the same time, as you spiral down without wing and with engine on fire.

Edited March 22, 2018 by CSAF-D3adCZE

[Godspeed]

Did we get some extra camo when pre ordered G6?

Just thinking.

[L3Pl4K]

3 hours ago, Godspeed said:

Did we get some extra camo when pre ordered G6?

Yes, you get the Alberich Skin.

[Godspeed]

29 minutes ago, L3Pl4K said:

Yes, you get the Alberich Skin.

 

Thanks =)

[L3Pl4K]

19 minutes ago, Godspeed said:

Thanks =)

A Jokehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnhelm

[Mac_Messer]

Been already discussed in "who is going to buy and fly G6" thread.

On 21.03.2018 at 3:52 PM, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Lol, what logic

Best G6 Early I ever flew.

 

On 21.03.2018 at 4:34 PM, Finkeren said:

I have not flown it online, but from my SP experience with it, it’s hard to imagine, what anyone would complain about. It flies exactly like a slightly heavier and more draggy G4, but it compensates by packing a mighty, but quite believable, punch.

 

Any criticism you could raise against it would be a critique of the way the sim models the Bf 109 in general.

 

Also: It is one of the cooler looking 109s and the skins are just awesome.

I was hoping for it to get a droptank, still not a very valid criticism for mp missions that last under 1 hour.

[Blackhawk_FR]

Heavier and slower than all other 109s, but the armement is a serious argument in his favor (even without Mk108). I prefer to have less performances (compensated by more SA) but a stronger firepower. 

 

And with Mk108... it's a beast with a crazy destruction potential (1 flight > 7 kills, with still ammo left).

[Mmaruda]

The G6 was something that I flew quite often in 1946 and never gave it much thought, but then I saw the plane IRL on some air show... It look damn ugly, fat like a hippo, like someone took a 109 and aged it 20 years giving it a solid dad-bod. That huge cannon though...

 

And in BOS it's pretty much what it looked like and it performs like I expected it to when I saw it. All in all, it's just another 109 only it needs a diet, less Wurst und Kartoffeln. However the Mk108 does spit hate and discontent so... Basically it's not the 109 you are looking for unless you have fatty boom boom bombers to take down IMHO.

 

I went premium BOK because of the La-5FN, cause I want to colonise Mars and shoot down alien spaceships (old joke nobody will get), but the G6 is a nice bonus. For me it's nothing to write home about, but I'm more of a 190 kind of guy.

 

In any case, as Scully from Jagged Allience used to say - "Firepower, Mate! Separates the men from the boys", so I guess the G6 kind of helps your chest-hair grow maybe?

[dburne]

What do I think of the G6?

 

It is an absolutely gorgeous sight when the thing goes plummeting down to terra firma after I have pumped some cannon rounds into it from my Spit.

One of the best things I have seen.

 

Kill them, kill them all...

 

Edited March 23, 2018 by dburne

[sevenless]

12 minutes ago, dburne said:

What do I think of the G6?

 

It is an absolutely gorgeous sight when the thing goes plummeting down to terra firma after I have pumped some cannon rounds into it from my Spit.

One of the best things I have seen.

 

Kill them, kill them all...

 

 

Yep. Some things are best seen dead!

[6./ZG26_Custard]

36 minutes ago, dburne said:

One of the best things I have seen.

I have to agree 

 

[Seb71]

1 hour ago, Mmaruda said:

 

I went premium BOK because of the La-5FN, cause I want to colonise Mars and shoot down alien spaceships (old joke nobody will get), but the G6 is a nice bonus.

Neither is included in Battle of Kuban Premium Edition (the Collector Planes from BoK Premium Edition are Spitfire Mk.VВ and Hs 129 B-2). La5-FN series 2 and Bf 109 G-6 are "standalone" Collector Planes.

[Voidhunger]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

What do I think of the G6?

 

It is an absolutely gorgeous sight when the thing goes plummeting down to terra firma after I have pumped some cannon rounds into it from my Spit.

One of the best things I have seen.

 

Kill them, kill them all...

 

Kuolema Kuolema Kaikille!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUy7fn6g6I

[MarderIV]

Who do you guys think wears the big guns better? The G-6 or the P-39? 

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

27 minutes ago, MarderIV said:

Who do you guys think wears the big guns better? The G-6 or the P-39? 

P39 seems to do it better where it matters.

[MarderIV]

2 minutes ago, hrafnkolbrandr said:

P39 seems to do it better where it matters

 

As far as damage goes, absolutely. 

 

But I can't for the life of me use the 37mm the way I use the 30mm - probably since I'm more used to flying 109s and the Mk108 does shoot rather faster on its own. I can't think of the 37mm any other way than a bomber-hunter weapon whereas the Mk108 still somewhat works well as a dog-fighting weapon. 

 

What kind of tactics would support the 37mm on the P-39? The slow rate of fire is really killing me when I transition from the G-6 to the P-39. Or maybe I'm only supposed to be using it for bomber intercept instead of wasting it on fighters? 

[KingstonDE]

1 hour ago, hrafnkolbrandr said:

P39 seems to do it better where it matters.

 

1 hour ago, MarderIV said:

As far as damage goes, absolutely. 

 

Realy? I dont see any damage difference, 1 -2 hits on a fighter and game over . Doesent matter if german 30mm or P-30 37mm.

Same goes for bombers, when you aim right at the right spot. Fighter doesent matters where you hit, when you hit its 90% of the time game over.

 

As the german 30mm fires faster, i would say the 30mm wins, more damage in lees time and better hit possibillity in a short 2 sec. burst or high deflection shot.

With all guns i would allso go for the 109 centerline guns vs wingguns. Only by the small guns p-39 wins 4x .50 is better than 2x 13mm

 

To the 109G-6, best 109 in game. Yes it is slower, not as good in turn than the other 109, but she flys way more stable as the other 109`s and hits harder.

 

regards

 

Little_D

Edited March 24, 2018 by 1./JG2_Little_D

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

I meant "where it matters" in the "where the action occurs in our game" sense.  If I had to be down low, I'd rather be down low with the P39 than with the G6.

Edited March 24, 2018 by hrafnkolbrandr

[MarderIV]

3 minutes ago, 1./JG2_Little_D said:

As the german 30mm fires faster, i would say with only the big guns, the 30mm wins, more damage in lees time and better hit possibillity in a short

2 sec. burst.

 

This is where I find the G-6 really carries it better. The overall utility of having a faster firing 30mm over a slower firing 37mm is just more useful I think. Connecting a stream of cannon fire is easier on the G-6 and as you say, the overall damage of either rounds doesn't seem to vary that much as far as structural integrity of the fighters are concerned. Specially when things are really going hot around you and more so in cases where you really only have a few seconds to hit a maneuvering fighter (or a bullet-spewing bomber) with. 

 

The mk108 is a tack-driver as far as level shooting goes as well. But that's not to discount a talented P-39 pilot who can sling these shells very accurately. 

 

In the context of taking down fighters the mk108 is just better at the job, but for bombers I don't really have that much experience besides testing it in level shooting with invulnerability on. The He-111 seems to eat the 37mm well and could survive one hit at times. But in-game I can't quite put accurate shots on these bombers when they're spewing out hot lead from seemingly all directions.  

 

[KingstonDE]

7 minutes ago, hrafnkolbrandr said:

I meant "where it matters" in the "where the action occurs" sense.  If I had to be down low, I'd rather be down low with the P39 than with the G6.

 

i think this goes for both planes, depents of the pilot and the tactic you use. I personaly like p-39 down low easyer to fight against it with G-6 than on alt.

The good thing is, for the next 3 month, most vvs pilots underestimate what a G-6 realy can. But this will be soon over, so no easy trap anymore

 

regards

 

Little_D

Edited March 24, 2018 by 1./JG2_Little_D

[MarderIV]

1 minute ago, 1./JG2_Little_D said:

most vvs pilots underestimate what a G-6 realy can. But this will be soon over, so no easy trap anymore

 

Oh how I wish my internet was stable enough to jump into MP! :D

[KingstonDE]

11 minutes ago, MarderIV said:

In the context of taking down fighters the mk108 is just better at the job, but for bombers I don't really have that much experience besides testing it in level shooting with invulnerability on. The He-111 seems to eat the 37mm well and could survive one hit at times. But in-game I can't quite put accurate shots on these bombers when they're spewing out hot lead from seemingly all directions.  

 

 

Go in for a high 4/7  or 10/2 a clock dive atack and aim between body and engine or when you come from 10/2 high, aim for the cockpit and send him a nice present right into his face

[Blackhawk_FR]

3 hours ago, 1./JG2_Little_D said:

but she flys way more stable as the other 109`s

 

 ? 

I think it's just your own feeling. Why it should be more stable? And what do you mean by "more stable"? 

For me, it's not. Just heavier airframe with same engine so: Less speed, less "turnability".

[Cybermat47]

It feels slower and sluggier than the others, but the 30mm is a beast and the .50 cals surprised me with just how powerful they are.

 

[Voidhunger]

2 hours ago, F/JG300_Faucon said:

 

 ? 

I think it's just your own feeling. Why it should be more stable? And what do you mean by "more stable"? 

For me, it's not. Just heavier airframe with same engine so: Less speed, less "turnability".

its stable in the turn, no more loss of height in banking

[Blackhawk_FR]

2 hours ago, Voidhunger said:

its stable in the turn, no more loss of height in banking

 

No more loss of height in banking... ?  Sorry I just don't understand what you mean. 

[KingstonDE]

7 hours ago, F/JG300_Faucon said:

 

 ? 

I think it's just your own feeling. Why it should be more stable? And what do you mean by "more stable"? 

For me, it's not. Just heavier airframe with same engine so: Less speed, less "turnability".

 

Maby your are right, but than my wingman has the same feeling .

 

I fly with a warthog stick, the big spring is out an no extension. no deathzone in stick software or ingame, also no curves. Maby this is way i have the feeling she is more stable and flys smoother or even more direct response to the imput i use. My wingman has a cockpit at home and use the same stick with an extension and for him it feels the same.

 

I realy dont know how to describe it in english so you know what i mean, but for me she flys better than all other 109`s.

 

regards

 

Little_D

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by 1./JG2_Little_D

[Bilbo_Baggins]

10 hours ago, Voidhunger said:

its stable in the turn, no more loss of height in banking

 

Stability? Loss of height in banking?

 

It's just a heavier, more draggy G airframe, that's all. It flies and turns essentially the same. 

 

 

[smink1701]

Another 109. 

I would rather have something new like a Hurricane. I’m sure that hasn’t been said