Problems with my Careers

[Rottweiler]

I have 4 German careers going on now, I have a BoM career I'm hoping to take all the way to BoK. But I am starting to get missions where I have no targets and just buzz around for 30 mins, it's not fun. I get that you want realism and there were missions where planes weren't even shot down but this is also a video game, but this could be a bug? The escort missions seem to spawn planes to come after us, but when I am assigned to do cover missions, which is happening a lot now in my BoM and BoK careers, I just get Mission Critically Accomplished (In French in my BoK Career?)from flying around for 30 mins. 

 

This ontop of the German career seemingly being incomplete with the ranks and rewards, is very irritating. It's just the cover missions, everything seems fine for the time being.

 

On a side note, this career mode is a lot of fun, and I've put about 25 hours into it over the last 4-5 days.

[DaGengster]

nvm

Edited March 20, 2018 by DaGengster

[Grey*Ghost]

Hi,

 

I also had one sortie where my flight leader had us circled over the waypoint by for 10min until we got the confirmation, that the mission goal was reached although no enemy plane was in sight. It felt pretty dull, but also realistic.

 

Yesterday I flew another “Ground Attack Plane Intercept” sortie where we reached our waypoint and flight lead started to circle again. I also started to circle but widened my radius a bit and all of a sudden I spotted a flight of enemy IL-2s. 

 

The A.I. reacted instantly and my flight lead gave the order to attack - which I did! :-D In the end I shot down one IL-2 and two friendly planes where downed by escorts. I made back home safely including the landing approach, pattern and landing.

 

I must say that I was pretty impressed over how dynamic this mission ended, I never had expected this.

 

But I guess, since the career mode wants to be realistic, you sometimes just don’t find the enemy.

 

Boomer

[LukeFF]

1 minute ago, JagdFalke_B00MER said:

But I guess, since the career mode wants to be realistic, you sometimes just don’t find the enemy.

 

Yes, and that was discussed during testing. It's by design that not all missions are going to be big engagements with enemy forces.

[Finkeren]

Just now, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, and that was discussed during testing. It's by design that not all missions are going to be big engagements with enemy forces.

 

That’s a relief. I have been in combat on every single fighter mission so far.

[Dutchvdm]

I found that compared to the ROF career the missions are quite combat heavy. Most of them have enemy encounters. In my opinion it could be dialed back a bit. 

 

Grt M

[56RAF_Roblex]

16 minutes ago, JagdFalke_B00MER said:

I also had one sortie where my flight leader had us circled over the waypoint by for 10min until we got the confirmation, that the mission goal was reached although no enemy plane was in sight. It felt pretty dull, but also realistic.

 

Are you using airstarts?  There is almost always an enemy formation on the way but if you used an airstart  you are too fast so it does not arrive until you are heading home.  I found this out when I got frustrated like you and pressed CTL-F2 on a couple of missions when I had flown in circles for ten minutes and was told to RTB.    Also,  there are sometimes battles going on nearby but just out of visual range.  Sometimes it pays to hang around a bit after the RTB order is given or to look to see if there are any friendly targets or other enemy targets nearby.  I have stumbled across friendly bombers under attack or nearby factories etc.   The downside to hanging around after the RTB is that you will be alone.   

[Herne]

I actually really like that not all flights encounter combat. I always try and maintain formation with my flight during transit to and from our objectives, and you can never relax, because you just don't know when the shit is going to hit the fan.

 

I've been taken by surprise a couple of times, which has made me jump out of my skin in VR. 

 

I've recently started an HE111 career. I'm a few missions in, the missions are quite long with runway starts, but again maintaining your position in the formation is important when the command comes to release bombs, but more importantly, it is the safest place for you to be, for those few moments of terror when you come under attack.

 

 

 

 

[dburne]

I am probably 17-18 missions into a Kuban Career and so far have had enemy engagements on every mission.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, I./ZG1_Martijnvdm said:

I found that compared to the ROF career the missions are quite combat heavy. Most of them have enemy encounters. In my opinion it could be dialed back a bit. 

 

It depends a lot on the difficulty level chosen.

[Dutchvdm]

3 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

It depends a lot on the difficulty level chosen.

 

Hi Luke,

 

I fly on easy, and it's not that the provided opposition is to though to handle, it's just that there is always someone there. But maybe i need to fly/test more and are my limited experiences not representative. 

 

Grt M

[Grey*Ghost]

4 hours ago, 56RAF_Roblex said:

 

Are you using airstarts?  There is almost always an enemy formation on the way but if you used an airstart  you are too fast so it does not arrive until you are heading home.  I found this out when I got frustrated like you and pressed CTL-F2 on a couple of missions when I had flown in circles for ten minutes and was told to RTB.    Also,  there are sometimes battles going on nearby but just out of visual range.  Sometimes it pays to hang around a bit after the RTB order is given or to look to see if there are any friendly targets or other enemy targets nearby.  I have stumbled across friendly bombers under attack or nearby factories etc.   The downside to hanging around after the RTB is that you will be alone.   

 

Yes, currently I am using air starts. I never realized that I might be to early on the WP.

 

I like the fact, that there is so much going on around you and you can even get clues from the radio traffic from other units.

 

Really immersive - love it!

 

 

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, and that was discussed during testing. It's by design that not all missions are going to be big engagements with enemy forces.

 

I think that’s a good thing, makes the encounters even more thrilling! :-)

[Cpt_Cool]

I also would recommend Iron Man mode. It helps to make the "boring" missions more of a relief once you get far into a career.

[Rottweiler]

Yeah I understand they want it to be realistic, I am not asking them to cater to me.

 

But when I get 3-4 missions back to back of nothing but buzzing around waiting, I just alt-F4 and go do something else. What I liked about the old campaign is that I could choose what missions I want to do and I mainly did bomber intercept missions, I never did cover missions before so I am not sure if this is the norm.

 

I play with ground start on easy, maybe I'll up the difficulty see if that changes things.

[=SqSq=switch201]

I am pretty sure ferry cover with air start is bugged. I have never ran into the enemy with thi mission type.

[Cpt_Cool]

15 minutes ago, =SqSq=switch201 said:

I am pretty sure ferry cover with air start is bugged. I have never ran into the enemy with thi mission type.

 

I have only gotten that mission once, but I definitely did have the enemy show up. 

[Rottweiler]

Got 3 more cover missions with moderate difficulty and medium density, I still was just flying around. Not sure if it's intended or plane spawn triggers are just not happening with these missions.

 

Is there a way to turn off cover missions? 

[blitze]

Don't air start and choose a forward base to have your career from.

 

Also listen to Radio especially when you take off as it gives you your call sign and then, you get radio messages that give a nudge in the right direction.  Mine is Eagle and if I am number 3 in flight then Eagle 3 and Eagle 3 when flying near enemy will call enemy position.  Like 9 O'clock 3km fighters and that tells you, where to go and attack

 

It's rather a neat way of doing things especially if you play on Full Real Settings and have no icons enabled to help you find stuff.  Aids in situational awareness.

 

Also if on intercept missions, your map might update info given ground observer sightings of enemy attack flights.

[Max_Damage]

If you want guaranteed action every time, use the il2 or hs129 career. Or any other ground attack. but these two waste no time to climb and go for their target from the start.

Edited March 20, 2018 by Max_Damage

[Rottweiler]

1 hour ago, blitze said:

Don't air start and choose a forward base to have your career from.

 

Also listen to Radio especially when you take off as it gives you your call sign and then, you get radio messages that give a nudge in the right direction.  Mine is Eagle and if I am number 3 in flight then Eagle 3 and Eagle 3 when flying near enemy will call enemy position.  Like 9 O'clock 3km fighters and that tells you, where to go and attack

 

It's rather a neat way of doing things especially if you play on Full Real Settings and have no icons enabled to help you find stuff.  Aids in situational awareness.

 

Also if on intercept missions, your map might update info given ground observer sightings of enemy attack flights.

Yeah I got all this from the many hours I've spent playing the old campaign. Planes just aren't spawning when I am on cover missions, there are no radio messages or spots, game just gives me a completed mission after about 20-30 mins of just buzzing around.

[sniperton]

9 hours ago, =SqSq=switch201 said:

I am pretty sure ferry cover with air start is bugged. I have never ran into the enemy with thi mission type.

Lucky you. In the Moscow campaign I had to defend the position with 3 MiGs against 8 109s and 8 He-111s. I shot down 3, but the mission was a failure and I had to jump.

[Rottweiler]

57 minutes ago, sniperton said:

Lucky you. In the Moscow campaign I had to defend the position with 3 MiGs against 8 109s and 8 He-111s. I shot down 3, but the mission was a failure and I had to jump.

I'd be foaming at the mouth if I saw these coming in my German careers, in their respective Russian planes.

[lawn_dart]

I have the exact same problem

 

On cover missions I fly around in circles for a half hour and get told to go home

 

Ground start, icons on, no radio calls. I have even done  really wide turns to try to spot any aircraft lingering outside of the trigger point

 

There is literally nothing else around. Incredibly dull and when I only get maybe an hour a day to play getting one of these missions is incredibly frustrating. I had two in a row last night and it's pretty much made me not want to bother with career anymore

Edited March 21, 2018 by lawn_dart

[migmadmarine]

I've had one of those missions where enemies did arrive, and fought another squadron maybe 2 km from us, and our flight lead ignored them, so I think that mission type isn't working as inteded. 

 

[sevenless]

23 hours ago, dburne said:

I am probably 17-18 missions into a Kuban Career and so far have had enemy engagements on every mission.

 

I can second that for my BoM fighter campaign. Also what I really love is that no mission feels the same. I even once got bounced by enemy planes while landing after having flown bomber escort. I found that flying with moderate troop density and medium difficulty gives the "most realistic" feeling for me so far. I simply love it!

 

Oh and you can leave your missions flightpath, go on a sweep flying along the frontline and most certainly will find some ground attacking planes as easy prey for your guns. So you really feel that you are part of a bigger picture and that there is a war with two pixelarmies going on out there.    

[blitze]

11 hours ago, PRML_Hammerzeit said:

Yeah I got all this from the many hours I've spent playing the old campaign. Planes just aren't spawning when I am on cover missions, there are no radio messages or spots, game just gives me a completed mission after about 20-30 mins of just buzzing around.

 

Strange but I haven't tested Campaign on either Moscow or Stalingrad yet.  I chose Kuban as it was a good test bed for getting Graphic Settings right.  If you get it smooth in Kuban whilst flying a Campaign, then you will have no issues with the rest of the sim

 

So far, so good and with P39 Career, Spitfire Mk.V Career (both short lived), and now 109 G2+, the results have been fairly consistent.  Much to do, even if I loose my flight when escorting, oops LOL.  I continued along the flight path and waited at the front and the bombers came back and I escorted them home fending off a few attackers in the process.

 

You mentioned the Lagg 3, I assume this is a Stalingrad Campaign you are flying?  I must check it out.

 

People with issues, tell us the Campaign you are playing, the time period, the plane type you are flying or even better the squad and your settings.  Then what is not happening for you with which mission types.  This might help the Dev's quicker hunt down the issues.  I also wonder if Visual Range options might have something to do with the Campaign system....