How many Spitfires IX will we have?

[Kurfurst]

On 2018. 04. 16. at 3:05 PM, Rolling_Thunder said:

Heh, i wouldn't bet on that.

 

Luckily(?) there is plenty of experience with that subject already and it shows the exact opposite - I would even place a bet who will be the loudest whiner.

 

Its a tough competition, though. Heck the real challange is to guess who would make it top five and in what order.

Edited April 17, 2018 by VO101Kurfurst

[EAF19_Marsh]

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Its a tough competition, though. Heck the real challange is to guess who would make it top five and in what order.

 

The better pilot in the better situation will win, but they are not far apart. The K-4 has a lot of power in climb and speed but the late IX has possibly better overall handling. I look forward to both.

[MiloMorai]

On ‎4‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 9:00 AM, 56RAF_Talisman said:

The first test of the aircraft was in intercepting V1 flying bombs and the Mk XIV was the most successful of all Spitfire marks in this role. When 150 octane fuel was introduced in mid-1944 the "boost" of the Griffon engine was able to be increased to +25 lbs (80.7"), allowing the top speed to be increased by about 30 mph (26 kn; 48 km/h) to 400 mph (350 kn; 640 km/h) at 2,000 ft (610 m).^[32]

The Mk XIV was used by the 2nd Tactical Air Force as their main high-altitude air superiority fighter in northern Europe with six squadrons operational by December 1944.^[33]

 

^{Happy landings,}

^Talisman

 

The XIV was restricted to 21lb boost as the engine had be beefed to to handle 25lb boost.. Post WW2 25lb boost was used.

4 hours ago, VO101Kurfurst said:

 

Luckily(?) there is plenty of experience with that subject already and it shows the exact opposite - I would even place a bet who will be the loudest whiner.

 

Its a tough competition, though. Heck the real challange is to guess who would make it top five and in what order.

 

If history is any indication it will be you.

[LUZITANO]

well ... I would like to say that I am very satisfied with my Spitfire. I found the modification options fantastic, it was a great job

We have a Spitfire IX 25lb 18lb with the option to install the M.70 engine for high altitudes. Wings cut, the homesick mirror, rockets and bombs ... anyway ... I'm impressed
 

Edited May 26, 2018 by LUZITANO

[CisTer-dB-]

1 hour ago, LUZITANO said:

well ... I would like to say that I am very satisfied with my Spitfire. I found the modification options fantastic, it was a great job

We have a Spitfire IX 25lb with the option to install the M.70 engine for high altitudes. Wings cut, the homesick mirror, rockets and bombs ... anyway ... I'm impressed
 

We don't, we can switch to HF IX by installing the Merlin 70 but it's limited to 18lb. But still great plane isn't ?

Edited May 25, 2018 by ATAG_dB

[LUZITANO]

17 hours ago, ATAG_dB said:

We don't, we can switch to HF IX by installing the Merlin 70 but it's limited to 18lb. But still great plane isn't ?

I agree!

[unreasonable]

I was already very happy with the Mk V but I admit the extra performance of the Mk IX is fun. Roll on the Mk XIV - I really think they have to do it now, far more important than filling in all the sub-variants.

 

The developers have nailed it with these aircraft - not saying the other marks are not right, but it is clear from so may posts, even from one of Han's IIRC, that the Spitfire is just a joy to fly just like so many RL pilots said it was.  By comparison everything else seems clumsy or mechanical. 

[sevenless]

Maybe one of you Spitfire experts can answer this question for me:

 

As of now I understand we have the late LF/HF IXe in the game. Can anybody tell me how that late Mk IXe differs from the Mk XVI (apart from the packard merlin 266 engine in the Mk XVI) ?

 

And yes, Mk XIV with griffon engine would make a wonderful collectors plane.

[AndyJWest]

3 minutes ago, sevenless said:

Maybe one of you Spitfire experts can answer this question for me:

 

As of now I understand we have the late LF/HF IXe in the game. Can anybody tell me how that late Mk IXe differs from the Mk XVI (apart from the packard merlin 266 engine in the Mk XVI) ?

 

 

The major difference was the engine. Otherwise they had no unique features not found on some late LF Mk IXs.  Presumably they were given different mark numbers because of the non-interchangeability of parts.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire_(late_Merlin-powered_variants)#Mk_XVI_(type_361)

 

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

As Andy says, there's practically no difference. A few small bumps in different spots on the engine cowling and that's about all that separates the IX and the XVI.

[sevenless]

8 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

The major difference was the engine. Otherwise they had no unique features not found on some late LF Mk IXs.  Presumably they were given different mark numbers because of the non-interchangeability of parts.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire_(late_Merlin-powered_variants)#Mk_XVI_(type_361)

 

 

 

5 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

As Andy says, there's practically no difference. A few small bumps in different spots on the engine cowling and that's about all that separates the IX and the XVI.

 

Thanks guys. Now I understand. After having read through that wikipedia article on Merlin and Griffon Spits I am more then ever convinced that we eventually might see a Griffon Mk XIV as a collector plane in the game. 

[EAF19_Marsh]

On 4/17/2018 at 8:00 PM, VO101Kurfurst said:

As Andy says, there's practically no difference. A few small bumps in different spots on the engine cowling and that's about all that separates the IX and the XVI.

 

Indeed, distinction did not rally exist except for paper-work - squadrons seemed to have mixed fleets.

[JG27*Kornezov]

I think Spitfire lovers should concentrate to get the most of their Spits now. For that you do not need the 25 boost.
As now it totally outclasses what the Blue force has to offer.

When Bodenplatte is out you will feel like flying an i16 in a Battle of Moscow, capable ot outurning everything but slower than everything. It is fair not to have the regular G2 without the engine limitations?I feel your pain.
 

Edited June 4, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[TWC_Ace]

17 minutes ago, JG27_Kornezov said:

I think Spitfire lovers should concentrate to get the most of their Spits now. For that you do not need the 25 boost.
As now it totally outclasses what the Blue force has to offer
 

It doesnt. At least not by much. G14 is a beast. If you know how to fly it.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

2 minutes ago, blackram said:

It doesnt. At least not by much. G14 is a beast. If you know how to fly it.

 

I love how all the axis are up in arms about the spit because vvs has a plane with good performance. 

[JG27*Kornezov]

8 hours ago, blackram said:

It doesnt. At least not by much. G14 is a beast. If you know how to fly it.

 

All I see how LW players die pathetically, giving cheap kill after cheap kill. The machine to kill Spits is the FW A 8, and the Dora, not the Messer [edited]

Edited June 4, 2018 by SYN_Haashashin

[Barnacles]

1 hour ago, JG27_Kornezov said:

I think Spitfire lovers should concentrate to get the most of their Spits now. For that you do not need the 25 boost.
As now it totally outclasses what the Blue force has to offer.

When Bodenplatte is out you will feel like flying an i16 in a Battle of Moscow, capable ot outurning everything but slower than everything. It is fair not to have the regular G2 without the engine limitations?I feel your pain.
 

I think that was always the intention when selecting the BoBP planeset, have a representative fighter on each side which wasn't an out and out uber plane (G14 and mk 9). I think the question of 25lb boost is a moot one as, let's give the Dev's some credit, they know their stuff, and they will know most of the facts about 150 oct fuel use. The Dev's know that all the evidence says that 150 oct was used by some squadrons, but that means that other squadrons did not have 25lb boost. The mk 9 we get is one of those. I think this must be a consious decison by the Dev's as they have the 'big picture' with where they are going with the plane set.

 

All that said, it's be nice to have a 1.42 ATA G2, a 1.3 G4, a 25lbs Spit, a 1.98 ATA K4 etc. as options, so mission designers can add a bit more variety.

 

With regards to the Spit outclassing all the axis planes? I'm no expert but from what I've seen, it's the fastest plane in the game (CAVEAT) AFTER you have done a bit of turning. In a G14 I daren't follow a turning spit for too long unless I lose the ability to extend out of gun range.

[D3adCZE]

From my experience so far G14 is far superior to Spit LF mk IX, at least in the feature I prefer and that is speed and E retention. You can fight against it same as G2 vs Yak1b.