SOLIDKREATE Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) I just discovered this aircraft today while creating a mission in IL-2:1946. I was just scrolling through and I fell in love. It looks amazing and performs pretty well. It stood up my Fw-190F-8 and Bf-109G-6 A/S. Here's a few images of the plane below: I did not know this was a prototype before I posted this. Thus I changed the topic poll question. Specifications: General characteristics Length: 7.77 m (25 ft 6 in)Wingspan: 9.80 m (32 ft 2 in)Height: 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in)Wing area: 15.53 m² (167.10 ft²)Empty weight: 2,654 kg (5,840 lb)Loaded weight: 3,500 kg (7,700 lb)Powerplant: 1 × Shvetsov M-71 radial engine, 1,492 kW (2,000 hp) Performance Maximum speed: 630 km/h (391 mph)Range: 835 km (520 mi)Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,080 ft)Rate of climb: 16.1 m/s (3,150 ft/min)Wing loading: 225 kg/m² (46 lb/ft²)Power/mass: 430 W/kg (0.26 hp/lb) Armament 3 × 20 mm ShVAK cannonsUp to 500 kg (1,100 lb) of bombs (2 × 250 kg (551 lb) or 4 100 kg (220 lb) or 8 RS-82 rockets Edited January 2, 2014 by 9./JG54_SPEKTRE76
ImPeRaToR Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 It will probably be 2024 before I would like to see rare prototypes added. 1
Blakhart Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) It looks amazing and performs pretty well. Its another anti gravity russian technical miracle. Check hist data in il2 compare... Its just U.F.O. for desperate rookies who cant get kill in fair combat. If you want fun he will give you a lot of it, but also you can expect disrespect on good quality online servers with FR . Historicaly only few were build as a prototypes, unfourtunatelly for russian pilots Mr. Yakowlew had better P.R. than Mr. Polikarpow. I 185 construction was based on I 16 and "Rata" was very popular in soviet pilots ranks. Easily in control, good flight characteristic... Read some books of mr. Mark Sołonin ,Spektre. You will find a lot of good stories there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Solonin Especially that one about details of Operation Barbarossa. Dont know english title, in my language its called Na uśpionych lotniskach, try to translate and google it. Edited January 1, 2014 by =LG=Blakhart 1
Brano Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 Two test pilots were killed in I 180 and I 185 prototypes.In I 180 it was very famous Valerij Chkalov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Chkalov Very bad for plane trying to get into serial production.Even though parameters achieved were promising.
SOLIDKREATE Posted January 2, 2014 Author Posted January 2, 2014 Hey Riverside, I grew up in Glenn Avon/Jurupa Hills.
ImPeRaToR Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I recall reading that - supposedly - it was not put into production because the performance was very close to the La5FN which was being tested at the same time iirc. The La5 was also easier to fly - again supposedly. Can somebody confirm this?Also You list the M82 engine in the topic but the data you paste in your post has the M71 engine, which one do you want? ________________ Which side is riverside? I thought a river has two sides
Brano Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 With just comparing wingload of La5 and I 185 (~180 vs 240kg/m2) you can make some of your own judgement about which crate was easier to handle.There is also argument in favor of La5 that airframes and wings has been allready in serial production of 3 major aircraft factories (+lots of frames originaly built for LaGG3 been completed with new radial engine). I am with LukeFF on this topic.Please,no.Waist of resources for developers. if anyone still feels urge to try it out,in old sturmovik,you are more then welcome.
SOLIDKREATE Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 Oh so this is basically the La-5n which we are already getting =o). I'm cool with that.
Brano Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Ehm..not completly.It is more of ''Super I-16'' as it was designed along evolution path originaly started with I-16 ''Ishak'' or ''Rata''. Just have a look at wingload comparison.Polikarpov should be much less maneuverable in horizontal then La5.And more unstable in higher wing AoA.I also asume problems with longitudal stability due to short fuselage and vertical stabilizer area.
bivalov Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 i-185, as and any fighter of great russian designer Polikarpov, including mig-3 in fact, would be very good addition for game, but we not has even Polikarpov's i-16 exactly for BOS now, so, maybe better i-153 or i-16 at first?... moreover, LOFT recently hinted on i-16 in 2014... plus just have several experimental planes besides serial mass planes, which could be considered as very interesting and useful addition, but still could be problems with documentation, references etc, pls, all time keep this fact in mind...
1CGS LukeFF Posted January 4, 2014 1CGS Posted January 4, 2014 Experimental planes should be at the very, very bottom of the development list, end of story. 4
jaydee Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Experimental planes should be at the very, very bottom of the development list, end of story. Aggree 100% !
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Yes, I'd like it, but there are other planes I'd like more.
Trooper117 Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Absolutely not, we don't need it. Give us the missing aircraft for the current battle for god's sake.
kestrel79 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Cool looking plane for sure, but I don't think it was mass produced or saw much if any action. No.
dkoor Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Polikarpov I-185M-82, Would you like to see it. No. Because if I understand the concept correctly, we'll be getting dozen airplanes when game hits the shelves. That leaves us to desire on a lot of models that were there in numbers historically but we're not getting them anytime soon. And BTW I-185 sucks. I hated it in old Il-2 (along with most other prototypes and "exclusive" types, limited in numbers such was that flying Heinkel dildo) and that surely wont gonna change in this game. From top of my head I could only say that I somewhat enjoyed He-162, Me-262, Me-163 and Go-229. Edited January 9, 2014 by dkoor
II/JG54_Emil Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Only 4 planes built 3 pilots died on crash. It was too hard to fly. I wonder why it has the best flight model in IL-2 1946. 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted January 13, 2014 Author Posted January 13, 2014 I can still shoot them down . I have to admit they were only on 'Veteran' mode and I was flying a Fw-190D-13.
LLv34_Flanker Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 S! No need for "what if" planes that never got past prototypes. Same applies to the Mig-3M..12 built so had no real impact and should not be wasted resources on.
sturmkraehe Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Its another anti gravity russian technical miracle. :D This reminds me of what a colleague of mine told me. He's Russian by origin and studied aeronautics in Moscow. He reported that a professor of him told his first year students when they dealt with trigonometric functions that the sinus can never exceed the value of 1. Except in war times. Then it can sometimes have a value up to 4. Russian humor is just great. Edited January 22, 2014 by sturmkraehe 2
[JG2]R7_Blackadder Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 There are so many good planes still to be portrayed....
PauloHirth Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 All planes will be well come, if you dont like... just dont buy, I-185 is great in IL-2 1946 and will be in BOS too.
SR-F_Winger Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 It was not massproduced and only saw service for testing purposes. (from what my quick googlesearch results speak). So my vote is no (at least until there are many many other planes that would be more important are implemented). Otherwise a VERY beautiful plane!
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