216th_Jordan Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Inlet shutters should be 100% open. with inlets closed you severely decrease the performance of the oil cooler and the outlet shutters as they depend on the inlet air and thus you will create a lot more drag to keep the engine cool.
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said: I managed 582 km/h with almost same settings as you, but cowl inlet full open. It gives more cooling and in theory it would cause less drag (as you are not forcing air to move away from the nose) This. What reason there is to close inlet other than prevent over cooling? Keeping the oil rad in 100% or causes less drag than keeping it at 0%. I usually keep it at 90% As far as i know, only the outlets cause any significant drag, infarct, i use them as air brakes when i do dives.
=38=Tatarenko Posted March 16, 2018 Posted March 16, 2018 Just flew it online for the first time and was TOTALLY dominated over 3000m by an F4. Turns out the boost only works while the supercharger is set to low altitude. Had no chance. On the plus side, in the cold (Moscow map) I got her up to 601 at low level.
Rei-sen Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Hey guys, I'm having a problem with both LA-5s. I run with engine assists. When I move my Warthog Throttle it only changes the RPM instead of both RPM/Throttle of an aircraft. I've immediately jumped into LAGG-3 and YAKs and it's working fine in those planes with both levers moving. Does anyone have similar issue?
YSoMadTovarisch Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 This plane is so balanced that I feel bad flying it.
Makz Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 В 16.03.2018 в 08:19, Cpt_Siddy сказал: Remind me, how long can the A-5 hold the emergency power again? "- U17 strike modification includes C3 additional fuel injection system. When engaged, it increases pressure to 1.65 ATA (10 minutes time limit)." It runs 588 km/h for 10 minutes
Panthera Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Makz said: "- U17 strike modification includes C3 additional fuel injection system. When engaged, it increases pressure to 1.65 ATA (10 minutes time limit)." It runs 588 km/h for 10 minutes But is also considerably heavier with the extra armor, and as such not a problem for the La-5FN. That the regular A5 can only run at 1.42 for 3 min though despite tests showing it could run much longer than that, and even at a higher boost pressure, is abit ridiculous. 3
Ehret Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) If you keep your awareness up you will have (almost) full control when to engage or not. I experienced slightly higher red-line by around 10km/h in the FN. The backward visibility is great, but the front can be tricky because the armored glass can reflect the sun, sometimes. The amount of boost time (10m) is enough to run to AF/friends without a sweat. Edited March 17, 2018 by Ehret
Finkeren Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Had a bit more online experience last night. Flying the La-5FN I had some success, but not that sense of being totally superior that I had expected from the start. The climb rate did make it considerably easier to position yourself before the fight, but you’d be best advised not to try and fight any German fighter above 3000m. Flying Fw 190 against the I shot down 2 and wasn’t shot down by one. Hardly enough to draw any conclusion, but first impression is not that the FN has shaken up online play in any big way.
56RAF_klem Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 20 hours ago, Finkeren said: I got it to 580 km/h on the Autumn map. Did you correct for 'standard day' atmosphere? Mind you, if anyone's fretting over 5kph they're probably already dead anyway
Ehret Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Finkeren said: Had a bit more online experience last night. Flying the La-5FN I had some success, but not that sense of being totally superior that I had expected from the start. In a raw dogfight? Sure, the FN isn't invulnerable at all, but tactically-wise...
Finkeren Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ehret said: In a raw dogfight? Sure, the FN isn't invulnerable at all, but tactically-wise... Tactically it’s strong compared to other VVS fighters because of its climb rate and acceleration, but the “post-F2” 109s are stronger still, and they gain advantage as they gain altitude, so not quite a level playing field there, but the gap has narrowed. Personally I found the FN to be really good for providing top cover for bombers and ground attackers, because it can easily catch up and get to altitude after each fight.
=FEW=Hauggy Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Flew a couple of flights and it made a good impression on me, I was always a La-5 fan and the FN is some next level stuff that VVS needed desperately. Now Germans just can't run away from me by diving or climbing unless they have a significant advantage, I'm finally done with people scared of 1vs1 running away for help with lights on towards their base. (actually the last who tried to pull this got immediatly jumped by 2 other La-5FN who spotted him thanks to the lights) :D I also got myself out of a couple of tricky situations and could run fast back home to land. I already love this plane and I predict that salty German tears will appear. 1
LLv24_Zami Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, =FEW=Hauggy said: Now Germans just can't run away from me by diving or climbing unless they have a significant advantage, I'm finally done with people scared of 1vs1 running away for help with lights on towards their base. (actually the last who tried to pull this got immediatly jumped by 2 other La-5FN who spotted him thanks to the lights) :D Well, it goes in both ways. Not once or twice I've seen a red fighter run blinking their lights when fight goes badly. And I'm not even a very active MP player . What comes to the FN, it's a great plane. I still think the speed is a bit on the positive side but it's pretty much what can be expected.
YSoMadTovarisch Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, Finkeren said: Tactically it’s strong compared to other VVS fighters because of its climb rate and acceleration, but the “post-F2” 109s are stronger still, and they gain advantage as they gain altitude, so not quite a level playing field there, but the gap has narrowed. Personally I found the FN to be really good for providing top cover for bombers and ground attackers, because it can easily catch up and get to altitude after each fight. And nobody cares in practice, the 109s can stay up high and jerk each other off while Soviet airforce annihilate German ground targets. Coupled with the still limited visibility problem against other air planes and the 109's appalling high speed maneuverability, there's not much practical advantage for the 109's high altitute performance. 2
Sandinourcoffee6 Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 I tried too fly in career mode,later in kuban campaign I select La-5Fn but when the mission starts a lagg3 is given too me too fly and yes I have purchased the La5-FN . when did it make its first appearance,I know it was later in the kuban campaign I just want to fly it in career mode,any info would be great
Art-J Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Arthur-A said: Hey guys, I'm having a problem with both LA-5s. I run with engine assists. When I move my Warthog Throttle it only changes the RPM instead of both RPM/Throttle of an aircraft. I've immediately jumped into LAGG-3 and YAKs and it's working fine in those planes with both levers moving. Does anyone have similar issue? Yes, everyone who uses assists it seems, at least that's what I read. It seems to be some bug, which affects A-20 as well. 1
Original_Uwe Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 22 hours ago, 216th_Jordan said: I said it before, it isn't the beast people make it to. An airplane's performance is more than raw numbers. G6 lacks in that regard but ohh its a beast with good capabilities. People are just too much comparing this sim with old Il-2 and failing to see old Il-2s deficiencies or taking them for real. Boy more true words have never been spoken. I do find myself comparing to the old IL2 '46-I actually found my original 2001 copy the other day-and Im never short of shocked where we are now. 5 hours ago, Panthera said: But is also considerably heavier with the extra armor, and as such not a problem for the La-5FN. That the regular A5 can only run at 1.42 for 3 min though despite tests showing it could run much longer than that, and even at a higher boost pressure, is abit ridiculous. I usually get a shade over 5 minutes at 1.42
Finkeren Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 The Fw 190 is the only plane that can regularly go significantly over its 3-minute time limit. I've done dozens of tests and I have never gotten engine damage earlier than the 5-minute mark and the far majority of the time it goes beyond 6 minutes.
rolikiraly Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Finkeren said: The Fw 190 is the only plane that can regularly go significantly over its 3-minute time limit. I've done dozens of tests and I have never gotten engine damage earlier than the 5-minute mark and the far majority of the time it goes beyond 6 minutes. That's very interesting as i also did some tests (A-3) and it was always before 5 minutes when it f*cked up the engine. With the tech chat on, i was getting the warning about exceeding the limit at around 3:15....3:30, and it was cooked in 3:45....4:15. I've also heard stuff like 12 mins for 95% throttle, while i surely kill the engine in ~9 mins even at 93%. That's strange as i thought even i can't go wrong with this plane's engine management, but it seems i can . It's not that those numbers would matter too much (not for me anyway), but it still confuses me a bit. (PS. Sorry for OT) Edited March 17, 2018 by rolikiraly
FZG_Merlin Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 yet most server who allow the G6 don't give the mk108 option.. hahahha classic.. 1
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, FZG_Merlin said: yet most server who allow the G6 don't give the mk108 option.. hahahha classic.. It is debatable, but ill rather use 20mm with higher muzzle velocity if i go against fighters. 30mm is a Pe-2/A-20 swatter first and foremost.
FZG_Merlin Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said: It is debatable, but ill rather use 20mm with higher muzzle velocity if i go against fighters. 30mm is a Pe-2/A-20 swatter first and foremost. I agree.. though for having tested it a lot offline today, the mk108 is a one shot one kill weapon.... on fignters its devastating.. and shooting it from VR and oculus rift makes it very easy even in high deflection...
BeastyBaiter Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I do like a good spud gun, but even thinking about flying the Bf-109G6 is giving me flashbacks of fighting hoards of Yak-3's and La-5FN's VEF in IL2:FB.
Danziger Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Well I think maybe the Luftwaffe has something to be concerned about now. I managed to get my La-5FN up to 1011kph on the Kuban autumn map... 2 1
unlikely_spider Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, BorysVorobyov said: Well I think maybe the Luftwaffe has something to be concerned about now. I managed to get my La-5FN up to 1011kph on the Kuban autumn map... Yeah, I see you told the ground crew to make some tough decisions for maximum weight reduction when prepping your plane. 2 2
SabrePig Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 15/03/2018 at 10:19 PM, II/JG17_HerrMurf said: I prefer the term "Tactical Retreat!" Advance to the rear at maximum speed. 1
Finkeren Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, BorysVorobyov said: Well I think maybe the Luftwaffe has something to be concerned about now. I managed to get my La-5FN up to 1011kph on the Kuban autumn map... In this episode of Gravity Falls...
III/JG2Gustav05 Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Did a quick test on La5FN at 6000m. 100% throttle, prop pitch 100%, ,Cowl outlet 0% ,Oil radiator 0%, it's 6kph faster than bf109G2, with no overheat, People would say L5Fn performance on the paper is given by radiator @50% setting, so it's much faster than paper performance is reasonable. German A/C also has better performance than the paper shows. but the difference is that it can only maintain 1min. but VVS can hold it all day long as long as it has fuel in the tank. Edited March 18, 2018 by III/JG2Gustav05 3
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, III/JG2Gustav05 said: Did a quick test on La5FN at 6000m. 100% throttle, prop pitch 100%, ,Cowl outlet 0% ,Oil radiator 0%, it's 6kph faster than bf109G2, with no overheat, People would say L5Fn performance on the paper is given by radiator @50% setting, so it's much faster than paper performance is reasonable. German A/C also has better performance than the paper shows. but the difference is that it can only maintain 1min. but VVS can hold it all day long as long as it has fuel in the tank. How it did not overheat?
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 With 0% cowling outlet there is still some space for air to go through, it looks like even with oil rad closed it cools it a bit with the air through the cylinders. Although in those conditions it's just below overheating limit (around 83ªC, the max allowed is 85ªC) and that at max speed, a bit slower than that and it will overheat, so you will have to open them if you enter a fight.
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 6:14 AM, FZG_Merlin said: yet most server who allow the G6 don't give the mk108 option.. hahahha classic.. The Mk 108 is generally not appropriate for our timeframe in the east. Excluding it for most servers would be appropriate. Regardless, have you flown the G6? The combination of Mg 151 and MG 131 is devestating to everything including the Pe2 and A20. It just requires a little more skill and putting a few more rounds on target. Success with that combination is a matter of tenths of a second in reality. The 108 may be desireable to some but it is not needed. Don't let it's absence throw you.
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Truth told, the main selling point of G6 for me is the .50 cals. If it was up to me, i would use 3 of them in the nose. Save weight and have more DAKKA. By today standards, the M108 Maschinenkanone is closer to M19 GMG than a cannon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_19_grenade_launcher vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MK_108_cannon "MK 108 had a muzzle velocity of only 540 m/s, compared to 850 m/s for the MG 151/20." I have seen angry teen girls throw rocks harder. Edited March 19, 2018 by Cpt_Siddy
Panthera Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cpt_Siddy said: Truth told, the main selling point of G6 for me is the .50 cals. If it was up to me, i would use 3 of them in the nose. Save weight and have more DAKKA. By today standards, the M108 Maschinenkanone is closer to M19 GMG than a cannon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_19_grenade_launcher vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MK_108_cannon "MK 108 had a muzzle velocity of only 540 m/s, compared to 850 m/s for the MG 151/20." I have seen angry teen girls throw rocks harder. MV of the MG151/20 was 705 m/s (AP, HE-T) & 805 m/s (HE-M) Personally I've never had much issue hitting with the Mk108, esp. considering I mostly fire from close range. But even deflection shooting seems quite easy. Edited March 19, 2018 by Panthera
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Panthera said: MV of the MG151/20 was 705 m/s (AP, HE-T) & 805 m/s (HE-M) Personally I've never had much issue hitting with the Mk108, esp. considering I mostly fire from close range. But even deflection shooting seems quite easy. It becomes an issue in high speed combat, at least for me. I prefer higher muzzle velocity weapons for that.
III/JG2Gustav05 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Anyone notice that you cannot see anything in front of you very well through this red encircled panzer glass area in real life because of refraction but here we can see everything crystal clear in game.
Wolferl_1791 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, III/JG2Gustav05 said: Anyone notice that you cannot see anything in front of you very well through this red encircled panzer glass area in real life because of refraction but here we can see everything crystal clear in game. The refraction would actually make it invisible. There's been a long discussion about the "Oleg Bars" of armored glass on all planes, spanning many sims. No sim has yet managed to mimic the actual refraction behavior.
III/JG2Gustav05 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wolferl_1791 said: The refraction would actually make it invisible. There's been a long discussion about the "Oleg Bars" of armored glass on all planes, spanning many sims. No sim has yet managed to mimic the actual refraction behavior. Are you kidding? this is deferent to the Fw190 case. think about it twice please.
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Wolferl_1791 said: The refraction would actually make it invisible. There's been a long discussion about the "Oleg Bars" of armored glass on all planes, spanning many sims. No sim has yet managed to mimic the actual refraction behavior. Speaking of this issue, you would think this could be something the mirror technology could fix. Rather than being a piece of glass that you see through; model it as a "mirror" that displays what is in front of you.
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