V1 Flying Bombs - BOBP

[AWC]

Would this be a possibility with the upcoming expansion? The 1944-1945 setting allows for this to be present in the theatre as either a static V1 launch site or as a launchable object. Recently I played IL-2 1946 in anticipation for the release of Kuban, and played the single mission where the pilot must intercept a V1. It makes for some thrilling action and delicate manoeuvres in order to either shoot it down from a safe range or flip it using the wing or airflow. I could easily see the Tempest and P-51 on interception missions, and all the allied ground attack aircraft attacking V1 installations. 

[Royal_Flight]

I think it should be, for a bit of ambience. It would make a good target as well because if you find and get to the site before they launch then there's a ground attack target, and if you're too late then they can still be shot down in the air, so the one object can provide two quite different mission types, basically at the same time.

 

I also like the idea of a mission where you are told the location of the site, the time of launch and the heading and you have to work out where the airborne V-1s will be so you can choose a course and intercept them.

 

No internal model or cockpit view needed, no controls, no complex flight model (as they'll either be going in a straight line or falling from the sky) and no need for even the rudimentary systems or engine modelling already present.

 

I would support its inclusion, for sure.

[Dakpilot]

 

These would also make nice targets, 1500 or so  V2's were launched between Sept '44 and Jan 1 '45

 

fairly sure the mobile launch sites were deployed in the Bodenplatte map area

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

Edited March 6, 2018 by Dakpilot

[ATA_Vasilij]

I will hunt all these V1 starting ramps, making thousands of them destroyed :D :D

[TP_Silk]

I must admit that I would love to see the V1 as a flying AI target in the future. V1 and V2 launch sites would also make great ground targets.

[=LD=Hethwill]

Oh yeah, the more targets the merrier the Jug pilot in me. 

 

Both types launchers would make for great ground target objectives.

[OrLoK]

Id like to tip them over.

[AWC]

I think it should be, for a bit of ambience. It would make a good target as well because if you find and get to the site before they launch then there's a ground attack target, and if you're too late then they can still be shot down in the air, so the one object can provide two quite different mission types, basically at the same time.

I also like the idea of a mission where you are told the location of the site, the time of launch and the heading and you have to work out where the airborne V-1s will be so you can choose a course and intercept them.

No internal model or cockpit view needed, no controls, no complex flight model (as they'll either be going in a straight line or falling from the sky) and no need for even the rudimentary systems or engine modelling already present.

I would support its inclusion, for sure.

 

 

It would be great if they were added, it would create a whole new scenario which could be tackled in a number of ways. Once the Me 262 jets are modelled and modding becomes a reality, it could be developed.

 

 

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These would also make nice targets, 1500 or so  V2's were launched between Sept '44 and Jan 1 '45

 

fairly sure the mobile launch sites were deployed in the Bodenplatte map area

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

V2's would make a great target, although not once in the air!

[Cybermat47]

I 100% agree, they would change up gameplay a fair bit from what we have on the Eastern Front maps, and would give mission builders a lot of new ideas for objectives and eye candy.

[Porkins]

I would like to fly one. The devs would simply need to model a mid 20th Century equestrian saddle with a particularly long girth strap. Below is my proof of concept. 

 

Make it happen! 

 

Edited February 26, 2018 by Porkins

[Kurfurst]

v2.jpg

 

These would also make nice targets, 1500 or so  V2's were launched between Sept '44 and Jan 1 '45

 

fairly sure the mobile launch sites were deployed in the Bodenplatte map area

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

 

 

Though I would not want to be anywhere near when it goes off.

[Elem]

I really enjoyed these targets in EAW.

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

V1’s would be an exciting addition. I miss those missions from original il2. And if the V2 sites were added as well it would add urgency for the mission to be completed.

[216th_Jordan]

Can't wait to raise its wing and see it plummet into the sea

 

I like the idea!

[Pail]

 

 

V1 and V2 launch sites would also make great ground targets.

 

Except I wonder if  we would have anything capable of destroying some of them. I already posted this site before but if anyone didn't see it...

 

  http://www.sbap.be/museum/eperlecques/eperlecques.htm

 

It would be a cool landmark at least.

[Feathered_IV]

I'm surprised the DCS devs haven't made one yet, so there is at least something German and historically correct frying over Normandy.

[Danziger]

I'm surprised the DCS devs haven't made one yet, so there is at least something German and historically correct frying over Normandy.

There is a mod I believe.

[Royal_Flight]

I would like to fly one. The devs would simply need to model a mid 20th Century equestrian saddle with a particularly long girth strap. Below is my proof of concept.

 

Make it happen!

 

Perhaps unsurprisingly, nazi mad scientists were way ahead of you with that idea...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_103R_Reichenberg

 

 

 

Not sure I'd fancy flying one, all the same.

[Eicio]

Perhaps unsurprisingly, nazi mad scientists were way ahead of you with that idea...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_Fi_103R_Reichenberg

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Not sure I'd fancy flying one, all the same.

Well... If landing is an issue for you...

 

But these things actually existed as the japanese "okhas" or whatever kamikaze name didn't they ?

[Cybermat47]

I would like to fly one. The devs would simply need to model a mid 20th Century equestrian saddle with a particularly long girth strap. Below is my proof of concept.

Jek, I have to ask... do you just enjoy blowing up?

 

[KatieLuna]

Attacking  one of these aircraft would not be easy; the Mk9 has a top speed of just 10km/h more than the V1, meaning that it takes ~1 min of full power to gain 2km of ground on it. The P47 has a more ideal 40ish km/h advantage, but that is again max throttle, and this is mirrored by the tempest MK.V. The P51 has a 50km/h advantage running at max.

 

So I suspect the "chase" missions will have to be VERY carefully done, ensuring that when it launches you are in a position to persue without overshooting, etc. so you don't have to take a lengthy loop round.

Edited March 2, 2018 by TheTacticalCat

[Porkins]

Triggered 

[Ropalcz]

Intercepting of V1 rockets would be nice. Ability to do photo-recon missions would be also very good step

[Royal_Flight]

On 02/03/2018 at 1:51 PM, TheTacticalCat said:

Attacking  one of these aircraft would not be easy; the Mk9 has a top speed of just 10km/h more than the V1, meaning that it takes ~1 min of full power to gain 2km of ground on it. The P47 has a more ideal 40ish km/h advantage, but that is again max throttle, and this is mirrored by the tempest MK.V. The P51 has a 50km/h advantage running at max.

 

So I suspect the "chase" missions will have to be VERY carefully done, ensuring that when it launches you are in a position to persue without overshooting, etc. so you don't have to take a lengthy loop round.

 

I think this will be part of the fun. Because an airborne V-1 will fly at a constant speed and a constant heading, if you know where the launch site is then you can roughly work out where it'll be at what time after launch.

So you can either loiter around the launch site and fall from the sky before it gets away, or you can set yourself up on a course that will intercept an airborne V-1 and either sit at altitude to dive on it for enough speed to catch up, go from the rear to tip it over with a wing, or approach from ahead or abeam for a gun run but knowing you'll likely have one pass at it before it goes past you and escapes. 

 

On 05/03/2018 at 8:29 PM, Ropalcz said:

Intercepting of V1 rockets would be nice. Ability to do photo-recon missions would be also very good step

 

Photo recon missions are something that BoX badly needs anyway, along with appropriate aircraft mods and a reward/score system that takes this into account.

Photo recon would definitely add something to the V-1 intercepts as well, as the direction of the launch rails provides the heading, and the amount of rails gives an idea of the number of V-1s that might be airborne at one time. 

[Ropalcz]

18 minutes ago, Royal_Flight said:

 

I think this will be part of the fun. Because an airborne V-1 will fly at a constant speed and a constant heading, if you know where the launch site is then you can roughly work out where it'll be at what time after launch.

So you can either loiter around the launch site and fall from the sky before it gets away, or you can set yourself up on a course that will intercept an airborne V-1 and either sit at altitude to dive on it for enough speed to catch up, go from the rear to tip it over with a wing, or approach from ahead or abeam for a gun run but knowing you'll likely have one pass at it before it goes past you and escapes. 

 

 

Photo recon missions are something that BoX badly needs anyway, along with appropriate aircraft mods and a reward/score system that takes this into account.

Photo recon would definitely add something to the V-1 intercepts as well, as the direction of the launch rails provides the heading, and the amount of rails gives an idea of the number of V-1s that might be airborne at one time. 

 

Armed reconaissance missions against V1 launch sites would be great!

 

PS: Are we going to get Griffon or only Merlin Spitfire?

[Royal_Flight]

22 minutes ago, Ropalcz said:

 

Armed reconaissance missions against V1 launch sites would be great!

 

PS: Are we going to get Griffon or only Merlin Spitfire?

 

Only Merlin at the minute, the mk IX. I'd have maybe preferred the Griffon-powered mk XIV (actually I'd rather have had a Seafire tbh, Merlin LF.III or Griffon XV) but the mk IX was present in large quantities at Bodenplatte alongside the also-numerous XIV and will still be competitive.

 

And who knows, maybe a mk XIV will come in the future.  

[Ropalcz]

Thats a pity :/ 

Will it be the LF Mk. IX at least?

Edited March 7, 2018 by Ropalcz

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Does the launch rail give its final heading? I thought they has a ground selectable gyro.  Might be wrong. 

[MiloMorai]

V1s were also launched from He111s flying out of Holland.

 

The 1st AWACs were used to set up intercept the He111/V1 combo.

[Juri_JS]

Hundreds of V1 were launched against targets in Belgium, especially Antwerp. It would certainly make sense to add them to BoBP. Most were destroyed by AA guns, but I think 2TAF fighters also shot down some of them.

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

3 hours ago, Ropalcz said:

Thats a pity :/ 

Will it be the LF Mk. IX at least?

 

Yes, it will be a LF Mk. IXe

[MiloMorai]

Not 2TAF but ADGB aircraft.

[Dakpilot]

Between 43-45 there were 68,900 sorties against V-1's and V-2's during 'Crossbow' campaign, dropping 122,000 tons of bombs, about 30,000 of the sorties were U.S tactical Air Forces and RAF fighter command to a lesser extent

 

Between Oct 44 and Mar 45 11,998 V1's were launched at Belgian Cities, of the 8,696 V1's launched at Antwerp 4,248 reached the target region and of the 2759 that penetrated the Antwerp air defence zone 1766 were shot down with only 211 falling in the intended target port area

 

Early versions were launched directly at target with later 'improved' version being able to make one course correction after launch

 

(V-1 Flying Bomb 1942-45 ,Steven J Zaloga. New Vanguard)

 

Cheers, Dakpilot