Elevator Control

[ACG_pezman]

It's always destroyed.  It's my leading cause of death now.  Ju-88, IL-2, BF-110... doesn't matter, the elevator control will be severed and I will nose in and die.  There can be no other damage on the aircraft and that will cripple it.  It just seems like it's too easy to destroy for both sides.  Every death I have suffered today was because of my elevator (right elevator?) control rod being severed.  That strikes me as odd unless people are intentionally shooting for the empennage to do this.

 

I don't know, just had to get this off my chest, and see if I am alone in this scourge or if I have others with me.

[Wolfram-Harms]

That strikes me as odd unless people are intentionally shooting for the empennage to do this.

 

That's the common problem with such points in a sim - people get aware of them and exploit them.

That shoud be changed - it was certainly not that common to have happened.

[Diggun]

If you are being shot at from the rear, and they are aming at centre mass (whatever people say here, it is only a very small % of the community capable of consciously and continually targeting individual components) then your elevator is one of the the first bits of you that the enemy fire can hit.

Likewise, if they are coming in at an angle, their deflection is off - too little- , but just by a touch, it is your rudder / elevator most likely to be caught.

Best way to avoid this would be to ditch the elevator and get some nice canards up front I reckon...

Edited February 14, 2018 by Diggun

[=X51=VC_]

Isn't that just a consequence of it being the first thing to get hit if you're being shot at from dead 6? Or alternatively, when you break but don't quite make it and the enemy couldn't lead enough. Had this a few times in a 109, lost elevators and rudder wholesale (the actual control surfaces, not the rods). I also flew a La-5 home on trim only at one point, would have landed it as well if the server didn't end the mission and count it as a "crash".

[Diggun]

Great minds..

[ACG_pezman]

I lost my IL-2 cable on a head on pass, albeit the enemy came from 12 high so there is an angle. However the flight before that was a BF-110 that got hit by one flak round in the tail egressing from an airfield attack on the deck. Needless to say, when you loose the elevator that close to the ground you don’t have time to ditch. And before that it was an Ju-88 that got knicked just right and lost it’s elevator. Mind you, each time the surfaces were intact, just the cable/control rod.

 

To me it seems like there are certain damages that you will receive if you have a higher ping. With a high ping (playing other high ping players) things get weird and bullets that miss you somehow hit you.

Edited February 14, 2018 by 19//p3zman

[Willy__]

 

 

To me it seems like there are certain damages that you will receive if you have a higher ping. With a high ping (playing other high ping players) things get weird and bullets that miss you somehow hit you.

 

I had some netcode issues, where the enemy plane had no angle to shoot at me and yet it PK'ed me. It was clearly a netcode issue because my wingman who was near the incident saw the enemy plane warping a lot. With that said, its not really that common...

 

About the elevator stuff.... usually what happens to me when I'm flying the 109 is that I lose the entire tail structure, what I like to call "the toothpick effect", it doesnt matter if you are hit at rudder, elevator or stab, it will fall off entirely, at the same time. It also happens a lot on the 110, but in that case I usually lose just one side but the elevator and the rudder goes off together aswell. About control cables.... MOST of the time it happens to me with ailerons, which it not so dramatic like losing the elevator, but its not that common either.... 

[216th_Jordan]

This is weird indeed because I usually never lose my tail in the 109 when fighting on berloga. But its hard to statistically prove issues as These as the paramaters are difficult to recreate and lots of time is needed.

 

It is quite common for me to lose elevator controls on the Il-2, maybe some hitboxes are just bigger and create a higher percentage of hits that way..

[Cpt_Cool]

The netcode will always make multiplayer dm analysis clear as mud, but it does seem that if people miss, they tend to miss aft. I have a hunch that P-39 engine damage will be more common for this reason.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Depends on the situation, but I'm not recalling having suffered from a suspiciously high number of elevator control loss, at least on the planes I fly regularly.

Maybe you were in a bad luck spree ?

 

Flying the Ju88 a lot, my n°1 cause of death is engine and fuel tank fire, this thing just ignites like a Bic lighter. Second is pilot sniped, because too many 20mm AP rounds in russian ammo belts.

The rest is a mixed bag of elevator failure, vertical fin loss, wing break etc... 

 

He111 is the same, with a lesser proportion of fire and pilot snipe, and more wing breaking. 

 

Bf109 is a class of its own, when I loose elevator control, it's usually because the whole tail section has been cut away. Way too fragile. 

 

One thing to check though is that, depending on the plane's construction, when you loose elevator control, you sometimes still have control over the elevator trim system. This has saved me a few times.

Edited February 14, 2018 by F/JG300_Gruber