Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) I want to echo the general murmur ..... In case you have to read it .......... https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28243 https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/33819-blitz-statistics-tool/ EDIT: please, a server for old and young pilots ......... please, a server for old and young pilots ......... Edited February 12, 2018 by E69_pienoir
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) +1 para el post de canto de la garganta de Tuvan the truth is that it is spectacular Edited February 12, 2018 by E69_pienoir 1
DD_Arthur Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I want to echo the general murmur ..... You tried pienoir but I don't really think they are listening. I think the general message is "keep smiling and wait for TF5.0". However, by that time lots and lots of people will have been flying around the world of BoX in P47's, Spitfire IX's, G14's and Fw A8's. They don't really seem aware of this...............
theOden Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Correct me if I am wrong but a server is a community thing, right? If no available server fits ones needs one simply have to put the effort in an host one oneself?
Sokol1 Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 CloD Lead Farm and DangerDogz servers include icons, easy settings... but for some reason - maybe even due this, are not popular. So is the same old story - servers exist in various "flavors" but some guys want that most popular server change their settings for meet their preferences. The cause of CloD MP players numbers fall in the same rate that Bitcoin rise is not due servers settings. 1
EAF_51_FOX Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) CloD Lead Farm and DangerDogz servers include icons, easy settings... but for some reason - maybe even due this, are not popular. So is the same old story - servers exist in various "flavors" but some guys want that most popular server change their settings for meet their preferences. The cause of CloD MP players numbers fall in the same rate that Bitcoin rise is not due servers settings. Agree... there are other problems like: crash during launch game/select plane, lost of simple ammo and convergence setting (very confused right now), chatter of tower control quite no-understandable, fx burn planes very discutible.. just to tell few ones problem with this BLITZ sim. Edited February 12, 2018 by EAF_51_FOX
354thFG_Leifr Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 You tried pienoir but I don't really think they are listening. I think the general message is "keep smiling and wait for TF5.0". However, by that time lots and lots of people will have been flying around the world of BoX in P47's, Spitfire IX's, G14's and Fw A8's. They don't really seem aware of this............... The standard TF modus operandi is to keep their head buried in the sand. It's unfortunate that ATAG is their main operating area (despite promises of moving to an official site), dissenting opinions to the echo-chamber almost always result in a permanent ban. Cliffs has a lot going for it, but it has a multitude of problems too - most of them unresolved despite the launch of Blitz. Bodenplatte will seriously challenge for attention in the Western theatre, TF.5 has to be delivered properly or it will be the absolute final nail in the proverbial coffin. I was under the impression that the Blitz release was supposed to expand the playerbase, not flatline it back into a state of life support. 1
theOden Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Read the links and this issue seems to be something else than a request for servers. So you guys are saying because of missing stats TFS are ruining the future of IL2dover? And not giving you what you want (demand?) they are hiding putting their heads in the sand? Did I get it right? Was there not a thread over at ATAG telling us they listen and worked on reducing effects? Many TFS members are also part of ATAG so for them spending more time over there must be natural, don't you think? Personally I do not like ATAG forums for various reasons since the birth of IL2dover but it is a private house and their rules apply. TFS members do have posted here but possibly not enough to satisfy you guys but I can see they have other things to focus on until 5.0 release rather than engaging in forum wars.
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Read the links and this issue seems to be something else than a request for servers. So you guys are saying because of missing stats TFS are ruining the future of IL2dover? And not giving you what you want (demand?) they are hiding putting their heads in the sand? Did I get it right? Was there not a thread over at ATAG telling us they listen and worked on reducing effects? Many TFS members are also part of ATAG so for them spending more time over there must be natural, don't you think? Personally I do not like ATAG forums for various reasons since the birth of IL2dover but it is a private house and their rules apply. TFS members do have posted here but possibly not enough to satisfy you guys but I can see they have other things to focus on until 5.0 release rather than engaging in forum wars. are you pissing out of the cup I do not know who you are referring to, or if you have not read everything correctly or it is a translation problem If you want notoriety I do not think it's the way Their synthesis of the demands are unfortunate Greetings gentleman
theOden Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Your google translates really comes off in a sad state, very much so your post at ATAG too. Could you type in Spanish and let us try to interpret your requests and statements? Unless moderators here objects of course.
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) I think I'm being quite respectful on my part at least for now If you interpret that all this is for a server, , but come on I have no problem Saludos en Español.Señor EDIT; Edited February 12, 2018 by E69_pienoir
SYN_Haashashin Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Could you type in Spanish and let us try to interpret your requests and statements? Unless moderators here objects of course. Sorry, he cant. What he can do is add both texts, in Spanish and English but I do not see how that will help..at least for no Spanish speakers since they will have to use a translator to. If you interpret that all this is for a server, it shows your level of intelligence, but come on I have no problem I do have a problem with the Bold part. That indeed come across as offensive and way way to personal, even if you say it in Spanish... I ask you to keep it civil at least. Haash P.D. Spanish is my mother tongue for those that didnt know already.
theOden Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 If you interpret that all this is for a server, , but come on I have no problem Saludos en Español.Señor EDIT; Well, considering your two bold lines in the first post: please, a server for old and young pilots That can of course be the blame of google translate and maybe it means "I have hot chocolate"
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 You seem sent to shake, distort and divert attention from the threadI say this because of his affirmations and his interventions, which do not really contribute anything interesting, apart from that, I tell him to distort the thread.With me it will not get itGreetings again, gentleman
SYN_Haashashin Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 please, a server for old and young pilots That can of course be the blame of google translate and maybe it means "I have hot chocolate" May I ask how in the world that Bold phrase can means "I have hot chocolate" in Spanish?? (PM if you really need to answer this question) come on now, what word do you think we use for chocolate?? Chocolate comes originally from sudamerica... Now...as Pienoir said, you are just trying to divert attention or whatever but totally offtopic. Guilty myself. Keep it on topic. Haash
theOden Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Oh come on Haash, you've never seen someone grow insanely tired of a person? My last off topic, I've seen enough of this dude and will use the splendid ignore function most forums have. I really think I am the big retard here trying to get an explanation despite reading his swinging posts at ATAG. I will now go and spank myself for 7 hours.
Team Fusion Buzzsaw Posted February 12, 2018 Team Fusion Posted February 12, 2018 are you pissing out of the cup I do not know who you are referring to, or if you have not read everything correctly or it is a translation problem If you want notoriety I do not think it's the way Their synthesis of the demands are unfortunate Greetings gentleman Hello Pienoir Your language and comments through this thread are disrespectful to the other posters. Please do not continue.
Lusekofte Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) The standard TF modus operandi is to keep their head buried in the sand. It's unfortunate that ATAG is their main operating area (despite promises of moving to an official site), dissenting opinions to the echo-chamber almost always result in a permanent ban. Untrue, I am a living proof of that I think I'm being quite respectful on my part at least for now Quite the opposite, you blame TFS for something you could have done yourself, you can start a server and make missions, you are whining because you do not bother to do it yourself and want someone else to do it. I never ever read such bullshit in my life. You tried pienoir but I don't really think they are listening. I think the general message is "keep smiling and wait for TF5.0". He have posted a complaint about missionmaking and servers and now taken it elsewhere. It got nothing to do with TFS and COD and ATAG. He simply do not want to start a server and make missions himself, he demand other to do so Edited February 12, 2018 by 216th_LuseKofte
DD_Arthur Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Hello Pienoir Your language and comments through this thread are disrespectful to the other posters. Please do not continue. On the contrary; Pienoir throughout all these postings here and in the TFS/ATAG forums has been trying to get across the point that Cliffs is a sinking ship right now. English is not his first language but he has obviously gone to some trouble to translate these concerns and constructive suggestions for the benefit of Team Fusion Simulations and the future of Cliffs of Dover. The problem he has experienced seems to be a familiar one; trying to post on the TFS/ATAG forum has become akin to the mating habits of spiders. Put one foot wrong and the female of the species will bite your head off. The problem TFS has experienced also seems to be a familiar one; Cliffs of Dover Blitz Edition release fairly disastrous. He's trying to help you. Can't you see that?
EAF_51_FOX Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) Seem to me that folks are flaming one to another about BLITZ..this is really bad. I personally think the responsability is all derived from TF Team guys that instead of relase a decent patch after almost 1 year of proclamations even with source code in their hands didn't make quite nothing in concrete way but just have gone to release a delusion-patch that have just amplified problems in this sim e.g. rear gunner A.I. that ruined all playability or CTD in-menu. If only they (TF Team) would have toned down the expectations in all this time at their disposal, may be now people will not be so "nervous" one to each others. And tell us that 5.0 pay-patch will be a complete new and problem-bugs-solving sound to me now just a mockery . Edited February 13, 2018 by EAF_51_FOX
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) First of all I have not blamed anyone for anythingI have only exposed one problem that is evident, the lack of pilots on the servers.Secondly, they have only been exposed, if they have all read the thread of ATAG, some of the problems that seem to be.I have raised some, other people have raised otherI've talked about the lack of an attractive stat page for the player, like the ones we have on the BOS serversAfter the demands have been evolving according to the malaise of the people. Some spoke of the interface (with which I agree) and others of minor technical problems, that the truth, I have not noticed. For me the patch is good and stable I will not repeat the thanks and admiration to TFHe also had attempts to distort the thread in Atag, it was closed on one occasion, there was a forbidden person, and it was reopened again.But this is not exclusive to ATAG,That is full of good people, this is the human condition I knew what I was exposed to, there is no drama for that. Using this thread to flay, distort, or speak of my bad English, apart from not serving at all, is a reaffirmation of the environment that we have to suffer in aerial simulation Mr. DHEODEN. Have you seen the sufficiency of me? .......... haha ........... for I am the first time that I have noticed that it exists.The only thing I post in this forum are videos, so I do not understand very well how I could awaken in you that insane envy. You can continue debating the morality "of the post. You can also give your opinion and you can also disagree and you can also read it.Almost everything is said already What we want a server for old and young was a way to de-dramatize the meaning of things, it was an irony ............. thought intelligent, but it seems to have been unfortunate.Maybe after reading the whole ATAG thread it would have made more sense, not before and in bold I just thought that we would have access in Clod as we do in the BOS servers, we would be many people flyingI have not opened this thread to answer answers, or to defend myself from anything, or have to hold it with cigarette paper.Only for this forum to echo it, that after all have their part in the cake Actually I do not have much more to say. Edited February 13, 2018 by E69_pienoir
Lusekofte Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 You solution for this problem is getting servers with GPS and icons, This means you can do it yourself. This is possible in COD already with a easier FMB than BOX have. There are 60 people + on ATAG server, and + 40 on other servers. It stayed like this fr years. It is however a more difficult for new simmers to fly. You simply put a problem on a Simulator that does not exist. My problem with COD is time, and only that, I prefer COD before BOX, but sadly my mates do not
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 13, 2018 Author Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) You insist on putting demands or desires in my mouth that are not true Remind me not to use the word GPS again.I discovered that by itself is worth to undermine a thread with 50 answers and 3000 visits EDIT:I ask please to quote me some answer in which I huse the Word" icon" I also ask you to tell me where I ask for a server to my liking and to me. I think the translator will know to differentiate "ask " from "suggest " REEDIT:I'm a fighter pilot, I'm 46 years old and I'm looking for quality simulation. I do not understand how you can get rid of my words that I demand a server with icons, you think I do not know what is "Leadfarm "? The screen chat output is unsmokeable, the statistic page does not work or it shines by its absenceGround targets are not counted anywhereIt seems to be thought for a spectrum 48kThat's what I said, it would be interesting to try those formulas to find out if they attract players and are part of the problem, Then some unhappy people have made other complaints,I'm not responsible for that. That's been my part. Read you Edited February 13, 2018 by E69_pienoir
69thSpiritus Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) We are listening. 4.53 is being compiled with SFX corrections, and AI gunner corrections among others things. The far majority of people do not have crashes and Blitz is stable. We will continue to research and find issues as well as help anyone who needs help. The truth is everyone has different hardware and software combinations so it is impossible for us to test every single combination. We will continue to fix bugs and try to get everyone up and running. We will be getting our own forums, but right now there are more pressing matters. A good amount of TFS members check in at all major forums to answer questions. If your question doesn't get answered or seen, instead of complaining that nobody is listening, PM one of us and we will try and help. Getting numbers up in flight simulator games has been something people have discussed since the start. In the end our market/community has always been small, and that won't really change much regardless. Lets keep this civil and avoid personal attacks and recognize language barriers. I'm not locking this thread yet. We can have a conversation, just avoid the attacks please. Edited February 13, 2018 by 69thSpiritus_Mortem 1
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 14, 2018 Author Posted February 14, 2018 They say that a picture is worth a thousand wordsAnd that dreaming is free................ clod by pablo segovia, en Flickr
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