ironk79 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Hello fellow pilots, the question arose in another VR related thread, regarding the performace difference between the different maps. On lower and mid systems the diffence in fps perfomance is definitly noticable, for example the "big" BOS map and the smalles one (sorry, forgot the name). Since VR is even more demanding i wonder how big the impact of the newer and more detailed BOK map is in comparisson to the normal BOS map? One thread mentioned almost half of the BOS fps. If thats the case i cant consider BOK since a new System is out of question at the moment, given the fairytale prices of current hardware. Regards
OrLoK Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Hello fellow pilots, the question arose in another VR related thread, regarding the performace difference between the different maps. On lower and mid systems the diffence in fps perfomance is definitly noticable, for example the "big" BOS map and the smalles one (sorry, forgot the name). Since VR is even more demanding i wonder how big the impact of the newer and more detailed BOK map is in comparisson to the normal BOS map? One thread mentioned almost half of the BOS fps. If thats the case i cant consider BOK since a new System is out of question at the moment, given the fairytale prices of current hardware. Regards I havnt done any tests but it really depends on the mission and content. I flew in VR yesterday over Kuban using a PWCG mission and there was tonnes of ground and air activity but I had very few issues with my rig. I have played (what seemed to me to be) "smaller" missions and have lagged terribly. I wouldn't be too afraid of Kuban unless you are already struggling in VR. YMMV!
56RAF_Roblex Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) To be honest I have never noticed any difference between maps. It is not that I have a powerful system, I use a GeForce 1050 which I would guess is barely minimal spec, but I have it capped at 60fps and on the few occasions when I have looked at my framerate I don't recall it ever going below 50. When I have noticed a problem everyone, most with better machines , has also commented on it and it is usually on the Moscow or Stalingrad maps anyway. Edited February 7, 2018 by 56RAF_Roblex
ironk79 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 I havnt done any tests but it really depends on the mission and content. I flew in VR yesterday over Kuban using a PWCG mission and there was tonnes of ground and air activity but I had very few issues with my rig. I have played (what seemed to me to be) "smaller" missions and have lagged terribly. I wouldn't be too afraid of Kuban unless you are already struggling in VR. YMMV! What are your system specs?
dburne Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I am about 50 missions into my PWCG campaign over Kuban. It is a little more demanding that Stalingrad, hard to say by how much - on my rig in VR it is still very playable for me without any issues so no real problem there.
Dakpilot Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I would wait for final release of BoK and patch before any thoughts are presented now, there are changes to BoS and BoK maps, also cannot remember but some optimisation for BoM?, all these may have effect either way, not too long to wait now Cheers Dakpilot
Finkeren Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 My rig will turn 7 years old next month, and I can tell you that the Kuban map is starting to test its limits, but only in SP. MP runs a smooth 60fps on any map, but dips to 45 in SP on a crowded Kuban map with an occasional micro-stutter. Not enough to ruin the experience but enough to be a bit annoying.
Lusekofte Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) My rig will turn 7 years old next month, and I can tell you that the Kuban map is starting to test its limits, but only in SP. Mine is 10 years and run smooth most of the time, but it also struggle in parts of Kuban. Of course I am not maxed out in the settings. And it is also in SP , MP seems to be smoother than butter Edited February 7, 2018 by 216th_LuseKofte
Finkeren Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I should note: I’m running everything on ultra in 1080p. I’m very interested in seeing how the increased draw distance for the landscape will impact my fps.
ShamrockOneFive Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 No denying that the Kuban map is more demanding than the other three maps. I'd say I loose about 5-12fps depending on the situation. The average loss is probably closer to 5-6fps though with 10-12fps being on the rarer side. It never causes an issue for me and the results are totally worth it. Kuban is easily the most beautiful map although I still really like Moscow autumn too. Appreciate the solid map work done all around.
ironk79 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 Guess ill have to wait for first hand reports once 3.0 is out, but given with my current VR settup there isnt that much headroom (maybe 10%-15% avg) i am a bit worried. Still looking forward to reskined BOS map, even if BOK is out of reach hardware wise.
Wedgewood Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I don't think it's significantly more demanding than the other maps, only slightly. A small change in graphics settings could offset the differences. You have access to the Kuban maps through multiplayer which could give you at least an idea of how your PC will perform.
OrLoK Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 What are your system specs? Not a mega rig. I7 6700k @4.3 16gb ram 1080 ssd. I too would wait for next patch and mp test.
ironk79 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 I don't think it's significantly more demanding than the other maps, only slightly. A small change in graphics settings could offset the differences. You have access to the Kuban maps through multiplayer which could give you at least an idea of how your PC will perform. didnt know that since i am more of a sp guy, thanks. Will try this evening.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) There is a difference, but the impact seems to depend on the strength of the system. My gaming desktop, for example, loses just a few percent. It isn't noticeable unless I'm looking for it. When I tested my 2015 Macbook Pro A1398 (terrible for gaming), Kuban required lower settings to achieve playable frame rates. It's quite hard to accurately evaluate because performance also depends on the location within the map. Edited February 7, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo
senseispcc Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 I must say that in BOK the summer map when starting over the water I have problems with my FPS on any other map or in any other circumstances none and I speak here from 80 fps to 5 fps in the first case?!
LFL-EightyPLUS Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Im especially interested on how the things such as water droplets and such affect the performance...
Finkeren Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Im especially interested on how the things such as water droplets and such affect the performance... IIRC they said that there was pretty much no impact from that.
ShamrockOneFive Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Im especially interested on how the things such as water droplets and such affect the performance... IIRC they said that there was pretty much no impact from that. They did. And I can't see such an effect really having that much of an impact... Modern graphics cards and techniques are very good at that sort of thing.
ironk79 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 Soooo, did some testing yesterday via Kuban MP. First of all, nice looking, very different to the other maps, the dense forrest covered mountains, the Sea and Islands, indeed nice looking. But to get the same performance as on the BOS map i have to drop the setting from high to low, Landscape from 2x to normal. So quite a difference for me /my system. And it was just me flying alone, and few AI units. But then again, my system is far from top notch (I5 4690k @4,1ghz, 8GB Ram, SSD, gtx970). I think ill stay with the BOS map for now and look forward to the reskined BOS map.
Wedgewood Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Have you adjusted your Nvidia graphics settings? If not, you'll be able to get more FPS by doing so.
dburne Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Have you adjusted your Nvidia graphics settings? If not, you'll be able to get more FPS by doing so. Doubtful, I believe he is flying in VR. Those settings won't do anything ( other than setting max performance).
ironk79 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Posted February 8, 2018 Doubtful, I believe he is flying in VR. Those settings won't do anything ( other than setting max performance). Yep, VR for me, once you got a taste of it, its impossible to go back.
OrLoK Posted February 8, 2018 Posted February 8, 2018 Soooo, did some testing yesterday via Kuban MP. First of all, nice looking, very different to the other maps, the dense forrest covered mountains, the Sea and Islands, indeed nice looking. But to get the same performance as on the BOS map i have to drop the setting from high to low, Landscape from 2x to normal. So quite a difference for me /my system. And it was just me flying alone, and few AI units. But then again, my system is far from top notch (I5 4690k @4,1ghz, 8GB Ram, SSD, gtx970). I think ill stay with the BOS map for now and look forward to the reskined BOS map. Yes, perhaps revisit after the upcoming patch. Let us know how you find it
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