Wolfram-Harms Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 What happened? Was that the rear gunner? What did he fire at you? A HELLFIRE rocket? Damn, a Bf 109 is not made of paper, is it?? 2
Ala13_pienoir Posted January 24, 2018 Author Posted January 24, 2018 What happened? Was that the rear gunner? What did he fire at you? A HELLFIRE rocket? Damn, a Bf 109 is not made of paper, is it?? we were alone Like a fool I thought I was safe in that position, and I did not think about the ventral turret I break a "laser" shot
Wolfram-Harms Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Did the Russian gunners sometimes use cannons, like some He 111 were equipped with? Then I'd understand it.
Ala13_pienoir Posted January 24, 2018 Author Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Now seriouslyIs this possible with 12mm? I was in WolAn impact listen and I had to jumpAnd here the proof that effectively P2 is the death star Edited January 24, 2018 by E69_pienoir
Jizzo Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Your ammo blew up, i had something similar happen last friday at FNBF. Hit an IL-2 with a 1 sec burst and it just blew up.
56RAF_Roblex Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Were you carrying bombs? It did look like there was a bomb on the other wing. It was a silly attack though. Try it yourself as a human gunner with a friend to see how easy it is to shoot someone flying steady above or below. You cannot miss.
Ala13_pienoir Posted January 25, 2018 Author Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Were you carrying bombs? It did look like there was a bomb on the other wing. It was a silly attack though. Try it yourself as a human gunner with a friend to see how easy it is to shoot someone flying steady above or below. You cannot miss. no, I was not using (109 G-2 Gunpods) It would be a foolish attack, but that does not mean that a 12mm burst can do that I do not like fights about these things, but they are my tracks and I want to share them. If you want I can hang the Log of the output and it will be clearer Although the logs sometimes are also very questionable Saludos Edited January 25, 2018 by E69_pienoir
Ala13_pienoir Posted January 25, 2018 Author Posted January 25, 2018 it means that my ammunition from the cannons explodedOk, I did not know that this was also modeled or how realistic it isit is true that for a while now I see many inexplicable disintegrations
SAS_Storebror Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Pe-2 gunner complaint thread No. 12954. Out of these, the 12952nd where the player approaches from dead six. The "dead" is there for a reason. Add to that, in this case the tracers following the player's dead external view indicate that it might as well have been AAA he just passed right above. Boring. Cheers! Mike
ITAF_Cymao Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 ... and attempt no. 12955 to say that everything is normal and to explain the inexplicable.Surreal! S!
SAS_Storebror Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 If you explain to me what's not normal in getting ripped to pieces when Flak gets you, be my guest. And if you think that a dead six approach right into the crosshairs of a gunner equipped with 12.7mm guns was a good way to attack an enemy plane, be my guest too, but don't expect me to take you any serious Cheers! Mike
unreasonable Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Pe-2 gunner complaint thread No. 12954. Out of these, the 12952nd where the player approaches from dead six. The "dead" is there for a reason. Add to that, in this case the tracers following the player's dead external view indicate that it might as well have been AAA he just passed right above. Boring. Cheers! Mike He was asking for it I agree - but it was not flak. Apart from the fact that they were flying over mountainous forest, if you download the video using something like Zilla Tube and watch it frame by frame you can see the individual shell from the Pe-2 that got him. The later tracers are there because the gunner does not stop firing immediately - on frame by frame you can see the individual shells coming down towards the 109 followed by the smoke trail. I had something similar happen when I was filming for my James Bond movie - hit Kreb's Spitfire on the inner wing and the whole thing blew up. No idea whether ammo explosion is realistic - I thought that it generally had to cook off due to heat, but I suppose this could happen. With loads of people flying over and over rare events are going to happen and get noticed.
Ala13_pienoir Posted January 25, 2018 Author Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Pe-2 gunner complaint thread No. 12954. Out of these, the 12952nd where the player approaches from dead six. The "dead" is there for a reason. Add to that, in this case the tracers following the player's dead external view indicate that it might as well have been AAA he just passed right above. Boring. Cheers! Mike He was asking for it I agree - but it was not flak. Apart from the fact that they were flying over mountainous forest, if you download the video using something like Zilla Tube and watch it frame by frame you can see the individual shell from the Pe-2 that got him. The later tracers are there because the gunner does not stop firing immediately - on frame by frame you can see the individual shells coming down towards the 109 followed by the smoke trail. I had something similar happen when I was filming for my James Bond movie - hit Kreb's Spitfire on the inner wing and the whole thing blew up. No idea whether ammo explosion is realistic - I thought that it generally had to cook off due to heat, but I suppose this could happen. With loads of people flying over and over rare events are going to happen and get noticed. haha ........... I just hope you like the video I try to show the most normal but also the inexplicable Effectively the tracers look vertical in the video. I think it's clear Because it has also been said that it was not the P2 that hit me The second video is more serious. It is impossible that the P2 did not suffer more damage in the collision. We keep learning Great greetings, gentlemen ---------------Detectar idiomaAfrikáansAlbanésAlemánAmáricoÁrabeArmenioAzerbaiyanoBengalíBielorrusoBirmanoBosnioBúlgaroCanarésCatalánCebuanoChecoChino (simplificado)Chino (tradicional)CingalésCoreanoCorsoCriollo haitianoCroataDanésEslovacoEslovenoEspañolEsperantoEstonioEuskeraFinésFrancésFrisón occidentalGaélico escocésGalésGallegoGeorgianoGriegoGuyaratíHausaHawaianoHebreoHindiHmongHúngaroIgboIndonesioInglésIrlandésIslandésItalianoJaponésJavanésJemerKazajoKirguísKurdoLaoLatínLetónLituanoLuxemburguésMacedonioMalayalamMalayoMalgacheMaltésMaoríMaratíMongolNeerlandésNepalíNoruegoNyanjaPanyabíPastúnPersaPolacoPortuguésRumanoRusoSamoanoSerbioSesotho meridionalShonaSindhiSomalíSuajiliSuecoSundanésTagaloTailandésTamilTayikoTeluguTurcoUcranianoUrduUzbekoVietnamitaXhosaYidisYorubaZulúEspañol haha ........... I just hope you like the videoI try to show the most normal but also the inexplicableEffectively the tracers look vertical in the video. I think it's clearBecause it has also been said that it was not the P2 that hit meThe second video is more serious. It is impossible that the P2 did not suffer more damage in the collision.We keep learningGreat greetings, gentlemen Edited January 25, 2018 by E69_pienoir
=RvE=Windmills Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 The second video is more serious. It is impossible that the P2 did not suffer more damage in the collision. This happens commonly, has nothing to do with the plane. One survives a collision unharmed and the other blows up/loses a wing. Probably has to do with slight desync online.
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 Well I had similar incident with He 111 H-6 in Yak1B, I was approaching He111 when instantly my plane was cut in half, spinning madly towards ground. I was so suprised and thought that was rammed by teammate afterwards I have checked logs and find out that I was hit by He 111 gunner.
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 This is AI issue. They have plans (DD120) to make AI gunner act more human alike.
unreasonable Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Well I had similar incident with He 111 H-6 in Yak1B, I was approaching He111 when instantly my plane was cut in half, spinning madly towards ground. I was so suprised and thought that was rammed by teammate afterwards I have checked logs and find out that I was hit by He 111 gunner. That is not an AI issue but a DM issue. Throughout the life of this game I have been surprised at how often I would lose a wing when hit by rifle caliber bullets from bomber MGs. Especially in 109 versions that have no ammo in the wing! Having said that, I have not done systematic tests - hard to do this for the DM - and rare events will happen with lots of people playing and of course they are most memorable, so it is hard to tell if the incidence is unreasonable. haha ........... I just hope you like the video I try to show the most normal but also the inexplicable Effectively the tracers look vertical in the video. I think it's clear Because it has also been said that it was not the P2 that hit me The second video is more serious. It is impossible that the P2 did not suffer more damage in the collision. We keep learning Great greetings, gentlemen ---------------Detectar idiomaAfrikáansAlbanésAlemánAmáricoÁrabeArmenioAzerbaiyanoBengalíBielorrusoBirmanoBosnioBúlgaroCanarésCatalánCebuanoChecoChino (simplificado)Chino (tradicional)CingalésCoreanoCorsoCriollo haitianoCroataDanésEslovacoEslovenoEspañolEsperantoEstonioEuskeraFinésFrancésFrisón occidentalGaélico escocésGalésGallegoGeorgianoGriegoGuyaratíHausaHawaianoHebreoHindiHmongHúngaroIgboIndonesioInglésIrlandésIslandésItalianoJaponésJavanésJemerKazajoKirguísKurdoLaoLatínLetónLituanoLuxemburguésMacedonioMalayalamMalayoMalgacheMaltésMaoríMaratíMongolNeerlandésNepalíNoruegoNyanjaPanyabíPastúnPersaPolacoPortuguésRumanoRusoSamoanoSerbioSesotho meridionalShonaSindhiSomalíSuajiliSuecoSundanésTagaloTailandésTamilTayikoTeluguTurcoUcranianoUrduUzbekoVietnamitaXhosaYidisYorubaZulúEspañol haha ........... I just hope you like the videoI try to show the most normal but also the inexplicableEffectively the tracers look vertical in the video. I think it's clearBecause it has also been said that it was not the P2 that hit meThe second video is more serious. It is impossible that the P2 did not suffer more damage in the collision.We keep learningGreat greetings, gentlemen Not inexplicable - as people have said, your ammo was hit: the bullet from the Pe-2 that got you hit the wing above the port gondola. A little more central and it would have been a PK: many ways to die at low six behind a Pe-2! Collisions in MP are dicey - as Tomcat says, plane A can be shredded and plane B not even know there was a collision: happened to me during one of my rare MP excursions. But good on you for documenting what happens (edit with a well made little film) so that we can discuss it, confirm it, or refute it: much better than just making a generic complaint. Edited January 26, 2018 by unreasonable
Leon_Portier Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) As long as you keep moving, you are save from the gunners. Than you can shoot pe2s down with ease. Edit:Sorry for my bad gunnery, I rarely fly german planes, more of a VVS guy. Edited February 11, 2018 by Leon_Portier
[I./JG62]steppa Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Does anybody have more detailed information on the ammo-blowing-up mechanics? I think this happened to me once but did not kill me. I´m interested in understanding what happened. Blessings!
Ala13_pienoir Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Does anybody have more detailed information on the ammo-blowing-up mechanics? I think this happened to me once but did not kill me. I´m interested in understanding what happened. Blessings! They give you in the ammunition even with a bullet, and implosion! ..........that is all!!
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