SCG_motoadve Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Have anyone ever got their landing gear shot off? I have seen it a few times now , I have shot at AI and one landing gear flies off (109 just before writing this post) very cool effect , but I have never had mine shot off. I never noticed this before until flying in VR. Does this only happens to AI planes?
-TBC-AeroAce Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 I have played maybe 20 hours a week since day one and have only possibly seen it once and even then I think I may have broken it on take off. 1
Pail Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 No it can happen to all planes. You have to attempt to land for it to be especially relevant and it is not always catastrophic. You can occasionally land on one wheel and one wing and not wreck the engine and prop. Sometimes you may not realize why your landing failed so badly.... It is a nice, detailed damage model effect.
Mac_Messer Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 You can also have the hydraulics damaged so when you`re on final, one or two won`t go down. 1
Finkeren Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 You can also have the hydraulics damaged so when you`re on final, one or two won`t go down. Really? I don't think I've seen that since early access. I thought that feature got removed. @OP: I see planes losing a main gear (or more often just the wheel) quite often with larger twin engined bombers, that have their gear in the engine nacelles. 1
Wolfram-Harms Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Only recently, I had my right wheel shot out of it's well during combat! I had no knowledge about this and later tried to land on my airfield. The right gear ploughed into the groung, and I nosed up my Bf 109! I was really confudes, what I had done so badly wrong - until I watched the TRACK I had recorded...! Here are some pictures! (click image to enlarge) Edited January 22, 2018 by Wolfram-Harms 1
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) It’s nice that this occurrence is very rare. Gear is always strong, so it should not be easy to damage with gunfire. In some other games, parts of the airframe separate far too easily. I think Il-2 models structural failure rather nicely. Edited January 22, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo
InProgress Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 You can see it mostly on stuka or ju52 for obvious reason https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/865108628408916920/636B1B90D181C0BC3F898BFDF613807F88D93D5C/ Clod
Luftschiff Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Definitely happens, I have had both what I assume is hydraulic failure (one won't deploy) and one shot away. As late as this sunday I saw a 110 topple over trying to land with only one wheel still attached. Very frustrating, very neat!
blitze Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Took off in a Ju88 with a tree strike to RHS landing gear. It went up ok so I didn't think much of it until on return I land and the RHS collapses on me on touch down. I have also had AA and fighters damage gear so when landing from a mission, rare I know (returning that is from online bombing mission), I didn't have one side or other landing gear deploy. It is well modeled. Another thing was a bombing mission whereby I made several passes at low alt on a target. I took hits on the second pass and thought nothing of it until the leaving after the 3rd pass and a wingtip broke off leaving my plane in a mess. Had to bail on that one. I like to think of myself as the resident il2 BOX damage model tester
DD_Arthur Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 No it can happen to all planes. You have to attempt to land for it to be especially relevant and it is not always catastrophic. You can occasionally land on one wheel and one wing and not wreck the engine and prop. Sometimes you may not realize why your landing failed so badly.... It is a nice, detailed damage model effect. From 7 mins in PE2 rear gunner
Luftschiff Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 See, the hard thing is trying to convince your laughing wingman that you didn't just FORGET to deploy it.
Pail Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 From 7 mins in It was so close to a perfect example.... Maybe it can only reliably be done in an I-16.
Danziger Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 I've had one whole strut and all shot off in the MiG once.
Jade_Monkey Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 The easiest landing gear to shoot down is the Ju52 for obvious reasons. I've seen it many times.
-TBC-AeroAce Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) I think the real question here is... IF the gear is retracted can it be damaged? I have never with 5000+ hours under my belt had the gear damaged from being shot at when it was retracted! Gear never drops early or fails to deploy correctly if shot at when retracted! The closest I have come to think that it was damaged due to being shot when retracted was most likely because I broke it on take off (this was once in 5000+ hours). If it is damaged when down that is another story, but when it is retracted I can honestly say that it does not get damaged!!!!!! To make me believe that it can be damaged I want to see a clean takeoff, the plane being shot at to cause the damage and then the damage! If it can happen it is a real statistical obsuritry. Prove me wrong! OW just to add you can break the gear guards or baffles from over speeding with them retracted but that will never break the actual gear struts. Edited January 23, 2018 by AeroAce
ShamrockOneFive Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I think the real question here is... IF the gear is retracted can it be damaged? I have never with 5000+ hours under my belt had the gear damaged from being shot at when it was retracted! Gear never drops early or fails to deploy correctly if shot at when retracted! The closest I have come to think that it was damaged due to being shot when retracted was most likely because I broke it on take off (this was once in 5000+ hours). If it is damaged when down that is another story, but when it is retracted I can honestly say that it does not get damaged!!!!!! To make me believe that it can be damaged I want to see a clean takeoff, the plane being shot at to cause the damage and then the damage! If it can happen it is a real statistical obsuritry. Prove me wrong! OW just to add you can break the gear guards or baffles from over speeding with them retracted but that will never break the actual gear struts. Seen this happen many times. Battle damage and one or both landing gear, that was retracted, was indeed damaged or fell off completely. I shall try to find some screenshots.
Mesha44 Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I landed an IL-2 once and could not control it once I was down. Only when I came to a stop and did a quick external view did I realize that my right wheel was missing and that I had just landed on the struts, the left wheel was intact and ok.
Oubaas Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I could probably live with having one of my main mounts shot off. But I would hate to have my nose gear shot off.
-TBC-AeroAce Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Maybe I have been very lucky in all of my 5000 hours but I really have never seen gear damage and trust me I have been shot to sh**************************************************t many times. I think if it does happen it is a very low chance! As I have not really seen it I am wary of people maybe damaging it on takeoff or in flight or something and confusing it for damage from the enemy! I hope Im just a very lucky guy I guess. One posible thing is that the later Kuban or Moscow models have this level of detail and that I was here from the start I dont pick up on it? Ask the DEVS or prove it because I dont think it is there Edited January 23, 2018 by AeroAce
FuriousMeow Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 It definitely happens due to damage from projectiles. I've done it to many planes, and have had it happen to me.
ShamrockOneFive Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 I must not get hit that much then! You just need to spend more time being an IL-2 photographer like me
Godspeed Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) This has happened to me many times when flying Bf-110 usually when i have taken damage from AA. Nowdays i check gear lights when landing. Edited January 23, 2018 by Godspeed
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Really? I don't think I've seen that since early access. I thought that feature got removed. @OP: I see planes losing a main gear (or more often just the wheel) quite often with larger twin engined bombers, that have their gear in the engine nacelles. This - per the last time I asked Han (albeit a year or two ago) hydraulic damage/drop/lock isn't modeled. No change to this damage modeling has been reflected in any update changelog and I don't think anything has changed. Modeling hydraulic failure would be a pretty significant update to the DM and they would've without a doubt mentioned it in the changelog because it has been, and continues to be, a pretty major community placebo/talking point. The best person to clarify this would be Han. Edited January 23, 2018 by Space_Ghost
Finkeren Posted January 23, 2018 Posted January 23, 2018 Landing gear locking/dropping/failing to deploy is actually one of the things I really miss from the DM - which is otherwise really good. It adds so much tension to a flight knowing, that you might not be able to make a safe landing, as you frantically press the keys for manual gear operation. The issue here is of course to not have this kind of damage happen too often. The landing gear takes up a good chunk of space in the wings, so the hit box can't simply be the gear itself. 1
Chief_Mouser Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Lost many a wheel in the Il-2; some through enemy action and the odd one through running off the end of the runway and hitting a bump. Also had the u/c collapse on me when landing due to overstressing it whilst taxying.
LLv24_SukkaVR Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 I've lost many landing geards too, and also on landing broke many when they were damaged by enemy fire. Makes you angry when you complete the mission with 5 kills and when you touch down on airfield and one of your landing gear breaks and mission failure.
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