Missing Plane set Eastern Front 1941-43

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

This is a short check list of the aircraft missing in the Eastern Front from 1941 to 1943. I try to make it short (10 items) and to add new planes rather than variants of exiting ones. I focus on the most representative based on numbers and variety.

I am sure that many of them will come in the following years.  These Devs are amazing. I did NOT include the planes from 1944-45.

If you think that another aircraft should be on this list and remove one of the existing ones, say so and give your reasons.

The list CANNOT be bigger than 10 aircraft. 

 

BLUE:

Fi 156

Hs 123

Hs126

Fw189

Do 17 / 217

He 112 / 100

 

RED:

TB3

DB3

I15 / 153

Su2

Li2

IL4

Edited January 7, 2018 by -=PHX=-Spartan-

[Finkeren]

I’d exchange the He 112 and the Hs 126 for the IAR 80/81 and MC.200/Fiat CR.42/Fiat G50

 

Otherwise a great list.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Also the Hurricane should make it to the list somehow. especially since we know that after the Po2, the Li2 will come next.

Edited January 7, 2018 by -=PHX=-Spartan-

[Finkeren]

Also the Hurricane should make it to the list somehow. especially since we know that after the Po2, the Li2 will come next.

The Hurri could be included in place of the TB-3, if I were to make the call.

[Barnacles]

SB2?

[Pail]

 

 

SB2?

 

It's a very cool plane but maybe because "All in all, almost all SB-2's were destroyed on the ground or in the air during the first month of the hostilities between the Soviet Union and Germany."

 

Although it did get some use so not entirely a reason not to have it.

 

http://www.ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/tuposb2.html

 

It had a bad reputation so maybe that would make it an unpopular choice for Russian consumers ? I dunno....i would like it.

[Max_Damage]

lagg 1943, yak9, actual la 5f

[Juri_JS]

All good suggestions, but for some of the planes (He-112, Cr-42, Fiat G50) we are missing the correct maps.

Moreover I would add the Ju-88C6 to the list, most Ju-88 Geschwader in the east had at least one squadron equipped with it.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

That's a very good point Juri.

If we could suggest the next Eastern Map, which one would you choose?

 

I've just finished reading the first two volumes of Black Cross/Red Star and there are so many great possibilities ...

As a matter of fact, I based my list on those books.

 

Leningrad, Crimea, Kharkov, Kiev, Far North, etc.

We really need more maps soon.

Edited January 7, 2018 by -=PHX=-Spartan-

[Finkeren]

If we could suggest the next Eastern Map, which one would you choose?

 

 

 

Kiev/Dniepr map would be a very good choice IMO, relevant for both 1941 and 1943 scenarios. We practically already have a full relevant plane set for a Lower Dniepr Offensive campaign.

[Juri_JS]

If we could suggest the next Eastern Map, which one would you choose?

I would prefer a Kursk map, with the whole area from Orel to Belgorod, and not just the small map planed for Tank Crew. This map could also be used for 1941 and 1942 scenarios.

[=GW=xshinel]

I would prefer a Kursk map, with the whole area from Orel to Belgorod, and not just the small map planed for Tank Crew. This map could also be used for 1941 and 1942 scenarios.

+1, I believe we can get this map from the 3rd party, while 777 focusing on the western and the PTO later.

[Juri_JS]

+1, I believe we can get this map from the 3rd party, while 777 focusing on the western and the PTO later.

We will certainly not see a full eastern front module in the near future, but maps that can be purchased separately could be a good idea to create some additional income.

[Danziger]

Tu2, Yer2... Who wouldn't love a gull winged bomber?

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

In my opinion, I also agree that maps are more necessary than aircraft right now. I really hope that that third party option works out.

[busdriver]

I thought you said a maximum of 10...and yet you have 12 in your list.   There are only three airplanes that I would buy.

 

German:

Fi 156 (I'd buy it and fly it)

Hs 123 (AI only in my game)

Hs126 (AI only in my game)

Fw189 (AI only in my game)

Do 17 / 217 (AI only in my game)

 

 

Soviet:

 

Tu-2 (AI only in my game)

I15 / 153 (AI only in my game)

Hurricane (I'd buy it and fly it)

Li2 (AI only in my game)

B-25 (I'd buy it and fly it)

 

 

[L3Pl4K]

Bf110 F would be nice for Stalingrad time frame. Do217K(flyabel) could be a nice addon, i would buy it.

Edited January 8, 2018 by L3Pl4K

[CrazyDuck]

Beside those mentioned, I'd love to see Pe-8 as well (swap for IL-4, which is essentially a version of DB-3).

 

However, due to low numbers and low impact on the war, and gargantuan amount of work needed to get it into the sim, I'm not holding my breath.

[InProgress]

Do17 would be really nice

[BlitzPig_EL]

Instant buys from me would be Hs 123 and I 153.

 

Sim needs more biplanes.

[von-Luck]

Bi planes, and unarmed recon planes? Don't get me wrong I love the I-16 But adding bi planes sounds awful. My vote will ALWAYS be for relevant combatant aircraft. Relevant typically excludes most of the stuff people pine over in this forum. Add valuable assets that fill holes in rosters or are otherwise meaningfully impactful. Who would want to fly a dive bomber that carries less than a Stuka AND is slower. I mean just look at how few fly Stukas as is. Give me a 110 F, He 177, Mc-205, Tu-2, Yak-9, or 1943 LaGG-3 any day of the week.

 

von Luck

Edited January 8, 2018 by von-Luck

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

Still need IAR-80/81.

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

Also Yak and LaGG with M-105PA

[InProgress]

@von Luck

You know that there is more than just multilayer? People don't fly stuka or bombers because it's badly implemented into multiplayer. It's just deadmatch nothing more.

 

Soon we get coop mode with certain planes limit and roles. No more fighters spam vs 2 people flying stukas. Having certain roles, number of planes and jobs everyone is required to do will add great opportunity for certain non combat planes with impact on mission. Recon, med evac, supply runs etc. It will make planes like storch important and fun to play not like now multiplayer where there are games when not a single person choose bomber in a team and it's just random chaos..

 

No wonder lots of people prefer single player experience.

[EAF19_Marsh]

Instant buys from me would be Hs 123 and I 153.

 

 

Totally with you and they would require comparatively less work than more advanced designs.

[von-Luck]

Beings that wish listing on here is both very common and filled with lusty requests for all kinds of nonsense I will abstain from any kind of argument. It's all a mix of comical and tragic. I merely offer my opinion to provide perspective.

 

 

von Luck

[Matt]

Well, out of those planes, i would preorder the Fw 189 and Li-2 right away, because both could pretty much be used in on all maps and carreers. But i don't think that planes that have basically been phased out during or before the BoM are really missing for the whole package, so i really don't see the need for the other planes. Except maybe the Il-4, but it would then be more or less restricted for tactical bombing duties, which don't really the plane.

 

New planes atleast have to fit in the singe player career mode or act like a strong magnet for MP, i don't see how the Il-4 or any of the other planes would achieve that.

[BRADYS555]

I Thought the Hurricanes pretty much just stayed in the North of Russia ?

 

I would happily Pay for Flyable :

 

MC 200 

 

CR 42

 

CA 311

 

Hs 123

 

Hs 126

 

FW 189

 

DB3

 

I 153

 

AR 196

 

Li 2

[Jaws2002]

 

Edited January 9, 2018 by Jaws2002

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Tu2, Yer2... Who wouldn't love a gull winged bomber?

I'm all in it for a 2000hp TurboDiesel Aircraft. It's gonna Smoke like Yo Engine's on Fire. 

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Turbos. I like Turbos. 

 

[Ropalcz]

Soon we get coop mode with certain planes limit and roles. No more fighters spam vs 2 people flying stukas. Having certain roles, number of planes and jobs everyone is required to do will add great opportunity for certain non combat planes with impact on mission. Recon, med evac, supply runs etc. It will make planes like storch important and fun to play not like now multiplayer where there are games when not a single person choose bomber in a team and it's just random chaos..

 

I hope it will be something like in Red Orchestra 2.

 

I also hope it won't be used on WoL - "Hartmanns" spinning on the airfields and then camping 8K will take all fighter slots. Situation will basically stay the same as it is, however this mode will be awesome for RandomExpert and TAW.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Ropalcz

[Pail]

 

 

I would happily Pay for Flyable : MC 200 CR 42 CA 311 Hs 123 Hs 126 FW 189 DB3 I 153 AR 196 Li 2

 

That's a very good list but I would probably think a German bomber instead of a Caproni bomber. Caproni is very niche market...

 

Of course I realize it is what you would choose though and I support that wholeheartedly.

[ATA_Vasilij]

 

 

BLUE:

Fi 156

Hs 123

Hs126

Fw189

Do 17 / 217

He 112 / 100

 

RED:

TB3

DB3

I15 / 153

Su2

Li2

IL4

 

I made bold and underlined what I really want.

 

And I would like to have also Pe-8

[InProgress]

I hope it will be something like in Red Orchestra 2.

I also hope it won't be used on WoL - "Hartmanns" spinning on the airfields and then camping 8K will take all fighter slots. Situation will basically stay the same as it is, however this mode will be awesome for RandomExpert and TAW.

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/uploads/monthly_12_2017/post-19-0-36229000-1513938610.jpg

You can see that it will be like RO. It not only have limits of planes but also tasks they are suppose to perform. Pretty sure if someone will decide to break from formation and fly around to hunt he will get kicked very soon.

[hames123]

@von Luck

You know that there is more than just multilayer? People don't fly stuka or bombers because it's badly implemented into multiplayer. It's just deadmatch nothing more.

 

Soon we get coop mode with certain planes limit and roles. No more fighters spam vs 2 people flying stukas. Having certain roles, number of planes and jobs everyone is required to do will add great opportunity for certain non combat planes with impact on mission. Recon, med evac, supply runs etc. It will make planes like storch important and fun to play not like now multiplayer where there are games when not a single person choose bomber in a team and it's just random chaos..

 

No wonder lots of people prefer single player experience.

+1

 

I mostly do single player, and when I do multi I am often the only person flying a Stuka or He 111.

As for more maps, they are a must to flesh out the career. In particular, we need something in between the end of the Battle of Stalingrad and the Kuban, since you can stay on the Moscow map until the Spring of 1942 supporting the Winter counteroffensive. Really though, the devs must make it a priority to address the ground combat, as practically all the air warfare in the East was based around tactical air attacks.

[Jade_Monkey]

 

IF they have time to make more planes for the eastern front, i think it's a strong candidate especially since the IAR was one of the contenders for premium plane (against the Mc202?). Edited January 9, 2018 by Jade_Monkey

[Jaws2002]

IF they have time to make more planes for the eastern front, i think it's a strong candidate especially since the IAR was one of the contenders for premium plane (against the Mc202?).

 

 

They said multiple times they won't make the IAR.

I. think that "poll" was just a publicity stunt.

Edited January 9, 2018 by Jaws2002

[Heliopause]