CrazyDuck Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) I'll nearly always go for centerline guns. No synchronization issues, with the ability to hit the target accurately on much larger distance interval outweighs half the firepower. Edited January 7, 2018 by CrazyDuck
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Doesn't really matter if you know your convergence and engage at or near it. 1
Pail Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 The option with the most bullets...... .......as per the theory " More bullets counteract the effect of a bad internet connection." 1
-TBC-AeroAce Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Both have their ups and downs! Not really one or the other for me but I guess centre line makes more sence as they can be used at almost any range. Wing guns pack a punch but need to be fired at the correct distance. U need to add a third option to this survey! I cant select just one Edited January 7, 2018 by AeroAce 1
CrazyDuck Posted January 7, 2018 Author Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Doesn't really matter if you know your convergence and engage at or near it. Yeah, that's the point of the question - centerline guns don't impose this convergence range limitation to you, for the price of half the maximum possible punch. Edited January 7, 2018 by CrazyDuck
216th_Jordan Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 One thing often forgotten is that wingguns add significant weight quite far from roll axis, thus increasing inertia. I'm all for centerline if I have to choose between both but a mix of both also isnt bad (like in the Mig-3 with gunpods) 1
PatrickAWlson Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Given the conditions of the poll I would say centerline. Thing is wing guns do not have half the ammo. So let's take a real case: FW190 vs Me109. I'll take the 190.
CrazyDuck Posted January 7, 2018 Author Posted January 7, 2018 One thing often forgotten is that wingguns add significant weight quite far from roll axis, thus increasing inertia. Good point - wing guns often being removed due to this reason (Soviets on P-39s, P40s, Germans on 190s...) Given the conditions of the poll I would say centerline. Thing is wing guns do not have half the ammo. So let's take a real case: FW190 vs Me109. I'll take the 190. The 190 is a bit murky - it's root cannons could count as centerline in my opinion. Two cannons so close to centerline, with insane amount of ammo is hard to beat indeed! Instead of 109 vs 190 - if you faced a choice between Spit V and 109 F, which one you'd go for? For me a 109 all the way. Even with 120 shells for the cannon.
JG1_Shadepiece Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 I love wing guns. Give those sweet sweet .50s! Although the 190 setup is my favorite, and not just because of cannons. I like the multi gun setup across the whole aircraft.
Finkeren Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) The Fw 190 has a very good solution IMHO. Those two MG 151s so close to the center line with a huge ammo load plus LMGs and extra wing cannon, if you so choose, is a downright murderous combination. Edited January 7, 2018 by Finkeren
Yogiflight Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 The Fw 190 has a very good solution IMHO. Those two MG 151s so close to the center line The only disadvantage I see here, is the height distance to the sightline, which makes it at short distances a little hard to guess the right height in aiming. 109 F, which one you'd go for? For me a 109 all the way. Even with 120 shells for the cannon. 200 20mm shells for all 109s after the Emils. Only the wingguns of the Emil were with two 60 round drum magazines.
Finkeren Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 The only disadvantage I see here, is the height distance to the sightline, which makes it at short distances a little hard to guess the right height in aiming. Compared to the 109's Motorkanone, the 190's MG 151s are positioned less than 50cm lower. Not really something that'll make an appreciable difference even at close distance.
Ehret Posted January 7, 2018 Posted January 7, 2018 Hi, My vote is for "Wings", as more guns offer higher rate of fire, which results in higher probability of hits. From my limited experience, as newcomer, I've found that it's much easier to down something in P40, than La5 in similar situation on a bandit's 6. Particularly deflection shots, especially when target's wings are exposed, seem to be much more reliable in Kittyhawk. There is no way that the target could slip between bullets, as it happened to me with center mounted cannon(s). 1
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted January 8, 2018 Posted January 8, 2018 The option with the most bullets...... .......as per the theory " More bullets counteract the effect of a bad internet connection." Mate this is not war thunder No sparking here and its not possible Regardless of your own lag and theirs. Where you see your shots go and hit is where they hit (all hits are cleint side and if you see it hit game will update it for person being hit and .. boom they shotdown) Much better than WT Downside being when someone on your 6 they can get shots that look impossible but on their side it looked normal Client side is the best. As for OP Centreline Guns
CrazyDuck Posted January 8, 2018 Author Posted January 8, 2018 Hi, My vote is for "Wings", as more guns offer higher rate of fire, which results in higher probability of hits. From my limited experience, as newcomer, I've found that it's much easier to down something in P40, than La5 in similar situation on a bandit's 6. Particularly deflection shots, especially when target's wings are exposed, seem to be much more reliable in Kittyhawk. There is no way that the target could slip between bullets, as it happened to me with center mounted cannon(s). Yeah, I have to agree - in this specific case I prefer wing mounted guns as well. They also give you a nice spread to the left and right if you are a out of convergence distance - therefore offering you a higher hit probability. However, I find them much harder to use from dead six on an unmaneouvering (fleeing possibly) target if out of convergence. Nose guns are a lot better for this. In particular I find the UBS deadly. They are the hardest hitting HMG in game, and also in my experience extremely accurate. On MiG-3 I prefer having 2 UBS in the nose over any other option. With their large ammosupply they even beat the 2xShVAK for me. Analogy in FPS terms: Wing guns are a shotgun, nose guns are a sniper rifle.
The_Wren Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 This is a loaded question. Seriously though, it depends on what my mission is. If I'm planning on diving through a squadron of bombers and then zooming away for another pass i want the centerline guns so I can start shooting much earlier and longer. If I'm anticipating a close in knife fight then converged wing guns could have the added advantage of an off center lucky shot while turning and burning.
ACG_HotLunch Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 I love wing guns. Give those sweet sweet .50s! Although the 190 setup is my favorite, and not just because of cannons. I like the multi gun setup across the whole aircraft. What about when the P-38 comes? You're not going to love the 4x .50 and 1x 20mm centreline action? Lol
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