Il-2 1943 Bombload too small when ROFL-132 Rockets are fitted?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

The 1943 Model still has the same Payload of 600kg, and can only carry 4 Rocket Racks because of Airframe Changes (Center of Gravity moved back).

 

The Weight of the ROFS Rack+Rockets is 188kg, so it should be possible to carry 4 FAB-100 and still be well within it's Limits, however, right now it can only carry 2 FAB-100s.

 

In the same Wake, why can't 2 FAB-250s be combined with 4 RBS-82 (72kg)?

 

Was it prohibited in Manuals, or just not considered in Development?

Edited January 5, 2018 by 6./ZG26_Klaus-Mann

[Nightrise]

2 250s and the rbs 82s might make me actually fly the 43 over the 42

Edited January 5, 2018 by =FEW=nightrise

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Well, the PTABs are great and make up for a lot, and it's the better over all package and I prefer it over the 42 by a long shot.

 

I just think it may have been forgotten to put in as a Config, as PTABs most likely had priority.

Maybe one of the Devs has an answer?

[Max_Damage]

IL2 tryhards only use 6x100 kg and 23mm ever. Never a single ptab or rofl132 on their plane. the 37 mm is out of question as well.

Edited January 5, 2018 by Max_Damage

[Herne]

IL2 tryhards only use 6x100 kg and 23mm ever. Never a single ptab or rofl132 on their plane. the 37 mm is out of question as well.

 

I had a go with the 132's :-

 

https://youtu.be/53RP0x-cY5w?t=2m1s

 

[Max_Damage]

Thats some special extra mlg skills when you aim separately with the left and the right rocket.

Edited January 5, 2018 by Max_Damage

[FTC_Etherlight]

It's really not that difficult, tho. I even made a tutorial for that [Edited]. ^^ 23's, big rockets and bombs is definitely the best efficiency you can get out of the bird.

 

Edited January 5, 2018 by Bearcat

[Herne]

It's really not that difficult, tho. I even made a tutorial for that shit. ^^ 23's, big rockets and bombs is definitely the best efficiency you can get out of the bird.

 

 

thanks for this. I got lucky, didn't really know what I was doing, but I think this will be very helpful.

[Alexmarine]

IL2 tryhards only use 6x100 kg and 23mm ever. Never a single ptab or rofl132 on their plane. the 37 mm is out of question as well.

So I am a tryhard? I think it's more the fact that both with rockets and the 37mm guns I can't hit even the long side of a barn... And I drop the PTAB too late usually...

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Proper Il-2 Gods reign destruction upon their Enemies with 8 ROFL and 6 FAB 50s and VYa.

But since I cant Roflstomp my Enemies with 4 instead of 8 now, 4 100s would be FABulous.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Can we get this moved to Suggestions?

[Pail]

 

 

IL2 tryhards only use 6x100 kg and 23mm ever. Never a single ptab or rofl132 on their plane. the 37 mm is out of question as well.

 

If you are flying by yourself......you probably don't want to stay over the target long enough to use all that ordinance........you can't maneuver to check your six easily with rockets or avoid attacks or defend yourself.....

 

What you call the tryhard option is also the most likely to survive unsupported option.

[7.GShAP/Silas]

It's possible and desirable to use your cannons, rockets and bombs all in one pass and exhaust your rockets and bombs after one or two runs.  Also, I've flown all models of the IL-2 a lot to put it mildly and I've never noticed that the flight characteristics suffer from carrying rockets to any noteworthy degree.

 

The mods you suffer for are the '42 rear gunner, the 37mm cannons on the '42 and to a lesser extent the 250kg bombs.

Edited January 7, 2018 by 7.GShAP/Silas

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

It's possible and desirable to use your cannons, rockets and bombs all in one pass and exhaust your rockets and bombs after one or two runs.  Also, I've flown all models of the IL-2 a lot to put it mildly and I've never noticed that the flight characteristics suffer from carrying rockets to any noteworthy degree.

 

The mods you suffer for are the '42 rear gunner, the 37mm cannons on the '42 and to a lesser extent the 250kg bombs.

With the slow Bomb Fuses, I always do a seperate Bomb and Rocket Rocket Run.

 

I find the Rear Gunner isn't really all that bad, apart from Moving your Zero in an attack Run so far up, that it seriously limits Tank Pounding capability. 

[Pail]

Peoples graphics settings and their familiarity with the targets is an issue with making one or two pass attacks. Particularly trees also. Wouldn't it be nice if we had photo reconaissance images of targets....?

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Peoples graphics settings and their familiarity with the targets is an issue with making one or two pass attacks. Particularly trees also. Wouldn't it be nice if we had photo reconaissance images of targets....?

Well, TAW does. 

 

But in any Case: Issue still stands of the 43's Bombload appearing to be too small. 

[216th_Jordan]

Well, TAW does. 

 

But in any Case: Issue still stands of the 43's Bombload appearing to be too small. 

 

Would be good to have any documents on this. IIRC the reason for the low number of rockets is that the plane would become very unstable with more of them, so i don't know how that goes together with the bombs.

[7.GShAP/Silas]

Four rockets is historically correct with the '43 model because of the increased total weight of the aircraft.  This is in conjunction with bombs though(very often carrying both) .  I could have sworn that they carried six 100Kg bombs with rockets, but can't recall off the top of my head.  Would have to go digging around.

 

 

I imagine the developers know all of this though.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Maybe on the Russian Forum? Where do you dig btw?

wio.ru sais 400kg Bombs+Rockets. http://wio.ru/tacftr/atak.htm