=X51=VC_ Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 Those wheels in the cockpit don't tell me much and I like the HUD off. Any tips and tricks for working out how far open/closed your radiators are? Sure I can watch the temperatures but they don't react instantly.
KoN_ Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 50/50 . gage the wheel or go outside view and check . Not sure what your getting at here . use the HUD . then when mastered turn off . The game is so fast paced I don't get time too look .lol
unreasonable Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Those wheels in the cockpit don't tell me much and I like the HUD off. Any tips and tricks for working out how far open/closed your radiators are? Sure I can watch the temperatures but they don't react instantly. Sit on the runway and turn the wheels so that you can see how many rotations represent the full travel of the wheel. I have forgotten - been a while since I flew Yak - maybe six? Then you just have to remember your setting at the start. In practice I always find I wanted closed, open, or "flow" at half way, rather than fiddling about with small adjustments. As long as you know how many turns the middle is from the ends of the travel, you will be OK. I like HUD off too, but I agree the RL Yak could have done with a simple open/closed indicator - or a simpler control that simultaneously showed the position like the Spitfire's. 1
=X51=VC_ Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Like the LaGG levers. Or a little indicator like for flaps, or the 109 trim number. Anyway, thanks guys, guess I'll go count rotations next time I take it out unfortunately this is a game otherwise I would file some notches on the wheel! Edited January 4, 2018 by VC_ 1
Finkeren Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 If you possibly can, put your radiators on rotaries, it’s actually more important than having RPM or mixture on rotaries. 1
dburne Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 I added a CH Throttle Quadrant to my setup some time ago for this very reason, to have the additional axis for this. I have it mounted just to left of my Warthog throttle.
=X51=VC_ Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 Unfortunately I only have one slider on the stick itself which is obviously the throttle, plus I don't exclusively fly Yaks so I don't want to bend my whole control setup backwards to accommodate this quirk. I am considering investing in a throttle but they are very expensive! To be honest "flying Yaks" is a strong phrase, given I've done a few test flights and one single mission where I got my plywood backside handed to me by an AI Stuka gunner Also, I thought you couldn't map radiators to axes, or was that something else? Trim maybe?
Halon Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 As long as you know how many turns the middle is from the ends of the travel, you will be OK. Thats a good idea I think I'll try that out, even with all the new toys I still love my Yak.
dburne Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Also, I thought you couldn't map radiators to axes, or was that something else? Trim maybe? Yes you can on the radiators, trim at least for most of the planes no. Only ones that can are the German planes with horizontal stabilizer trim iirc.
1CGS LukeFF Posted January 5, 2018 1CGS Posted January 5, 2018 Only ones that can are the German planes with horizontal stabilizer trim iirc. And the MC202.
Eclipse4349 Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 I added a CH Throttle Quadrant to my setup some time ago for this very reason, to have the additional axis for this. I have it mounted just to left of my Warthog throttle.My eventual plan, also
blitze Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 If you possibly can, put your radiators on rotaries, it’s actually more important than having RPM or mixture on rotaries. +1 Radiator and for radials, outer cowles on same rotary. Oil and inner cowles can be set and forget at take off with the exception of ground pounders who might want to close their oil rads when attacking to protect from ground fire.
=X51=VC_ Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Well, I counted and I think there are 11 spokes from full open to full closed on both oil and water radiators on a Yak 1 (spokes being the radial bracings on the wheel). Since each wheel has 4 spokes that's 2.75 complete turns of each wheel between full open/closed. Also you can't ignore the oil rad on a Yak it adds more drag than e.g. La-5 where you basically can ignore it. Also in winter cruising it will overcool oil. Edited January 18, 2018 by VC_
Herne Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 In the yak, I start with oil and water rads fully open, I may reduce oil a little depending on the oil temperature after a while. water I treat a little bit like emergency power. If I go into combat i reduce water by half, and even fully closed for short periods of time if I feel I need the extra few km/h of speed. Yak seems to be able to dump the excess heat quickly, so long as you don't over do it, she'll be fine.
Max_Damage Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) You better dont hesitate to use HUD. Remember real life pilots have an advantage on you: -they have special training -they only fly one plane at a time and get to know it thoroughly -they have better trackir :D, resolution, field of view etc -and a very comfortable working space -plus a G-meter. they can feel flight, not only see Edited January 18, 2018 by Max_Damage 1
Talisman Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Count the quarter turns on the control wheel. For example, 3 x quarter turns backwards from forward fully open on the Yak1 oil flap control wheel sets 70%. Use similar method for other controls. Also, note where control wheels are in relation to your chosen reference points in the cockpit in relation to turns past/on the reference point. If no wheel for a control then count short quick clicks of a button or hat switch. Train yourself with HUD on and when confident enough then turn HUD off. I like to fly with HUD off. Happy landings, 56RAF_Talisman
FuriousMeow Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 HUD off always, I just use the gauges. Temp increase, open a bit. Temp decrease, close a bit. 1
Barnacles Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 HUD off always, I just use the gauges. Temp increase, open a bit. Temp decrease, close a bit. I think that must've been how they did it for real.
dburne Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 HUD off always, I just use the gauges. Temp increase, open a bit. Temp decrease, close a bit. Same here, always go by temp on both.
=X51=VC_ Posted January 18, 2018 Author Posted January 18, 2018 The temp doesn't react instantly though. I guess if it's too hot you can just go full open and close gradually later, but it's nice to know what you're setting it to ahead of time e.g. if you know you only need half. I've flown this plane a couple of times now I'm starting to feel it doesn't matter that much, so practice will probably help (assuming I want to keep flying it).
unreasonable Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 My defaults: fully open during long climb to altitude, fully closed during long descent, half open for cruise and combat. Glance at the dials every 15 or seconds - like looking in a car mirror, it is a habit you have to learn.
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