Favourite plane coming with the launch of BoK?

[Sotka94]

Inspired by the Bodenplatte poll, I decided to make one for BoK. I'd also like to make one for Flying Circus, if people are interested. Let me know

 

Personally, I'm looking forward to flying the P-39 the most.

[DSR_A-24]

Bf-109G6

I'm going to have a lot of fun with the MK 108.

[sniperton]

P-39, because it cannot be related to anything we already have.

[Lusekofte]

B 20 , it is a l w a y s one aircraft in all packs that make me buy it, and the B 20 was the one thing this time, Bodenplatte have none, so I bought it for charity

[Y29.Layin_Scunion]

Looking forward to wiping the floor in the FN.

 

 

And as well, I'm looking forward to the abundance of whine/ufo threads.  It's going to be a comedy show.

[Royal_Flight]

A-20 all the way. Twin-engined, fast, low, heavy bombload. Disappointed by the lack of torpedos but I'll take it in stride.

I'll let the fighters keep each other amused with their new toys, while below them the sea and the ground will belong to me.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Sleek....elegant...powerfull....swift.....P-39 all the way!

[Matt]

A-20. Finally a multi engine plane for the Soviet side besides the Pe-2.

 

P-39 is a close second, because it's pretty unique.

[dburne]

P-39 all the way.

[Roast]

P-39, naturally

 

[56RAF_Roblex]

I don't want to start a debate but I am surprised that so many people see the P39 as more desirable than the LA-5FN which causing the LW to crap themselves.     I suppose if you you answer the question in terms of 'Something very different to fly' rather than 'Something to even the odds.'  then it makes sense.   My second choice is the A20 which I suppose comes into the 'Something different to fly' category rather than evening the odds (though it does that too)

[sniperton]

I suppose if you you answer the question in terms of 'Something very different to fly' rather than 'Something to even the odds.'  then it makes sense.

Exactly, I'm like a kid who wants a new toy, not like an adult who wants a better tool

Edited January 4, 2018 by sniperton

[Lusekofte]

P 39 was very successful in Kuban, it is the one plane I am most curious about, will it perform compared to the G4 and 6 and be equal successful? The new LA 5 is totally uninteresting to me except the few occations I take it out for a very quick fighterbomber trip, And I can do that woth the one we have

[56RAF_Roblex]

P 39 was very successful in Kuban, it is the one plane I am most curious about, will it perform compared to the G4 and 6 and be equal successful? The new LA 5 is totally uninteresting to me except the few occations I take it out for a very quick fighterbomber trip, And I can do that woth the one we have

 

I admit I too am curious about exactly *why* the P39 was so successful on the Eastern front when it was not very successful in the West.  I can only think it is because it is rugged and hard hitting which suits the VVS style of 'Jump in and slug it out.' where the RAF & USAF preferred a more refined approach to combat. 

Edited January 4, 2018 by 56RAF_Roblex

[Lusekofte]

Western aerial battles was fought at high altitude, atleast planned for it. Eastern front was lower altitude, but compared to what it did in Pacific it still got a lower performance

[OrLoK]

A20 for variety. I like bigger aircraft asn IMHO we have enough* speedy fighters as is.

 

 

 

 

*its never really enough.

[GridiroN]

They yak7 is actually going to make the most difference in game imo. Judging by the amount of bf109 pilots who refuse to change their tactics in 1943 maps with the la5f already, I doubt things will be overly different with the la5fn. I can honestly say 90% of the time I've lost a fight in the la5f was because the 109 had a friend and i couldn't win alone.

 

I have a clip I'm uploading soon I'd la5f play where I critically wound 2 109s and a third one shows up and kills me. What the la5fn will really do is just encourage the more clever Germans to just stop coming below 2K...

 

The yak 7 however was operational by 1941, and as far as I'm aware, has better aerodynamics and than the yak-1s69 and much better guns. A single berezin in the yak-1b already tears 109 to pieces...two, with more ammo will be deadly.

 

The A20 I think will be super cool but less effective than the pe2 as it has fewer point defences.

Edited January 4, 2018 by GridiroN

[sniperton]

Apart from my curiosity for unconventional planes like the P-39 (I voted for it), the Yak-7 is my second candidate. For whatever reason I expect it to be more a game-changer than the La-5FN, at least in SP. Sure, the FN will be a better ride than the F, but the difference shall be only quantitative, while an upgunned Yak with higher overall performance will be a quantum leap compared to the Yak-1. When flying against the VVS in SP, it was only the Yak which ever gave me a hard time, and I'm keen to put my hands on something which has a real bite.

[Roast]

I don't want to start a debate but I am surprised that so many people see the P39 as more desirable than the LA-5FN which causing the LW to crap themselves.     I suppose if you you answer the question in terms of 'Something very different to fly' rather than 'Something to even the odds.'  then it makes sense.   My second choice is the A20 which I suppose comes into the 'Something different to fly' category rather than evening the odds (though it does that too)

 

For me personally, I choose the P-39 because it was my favourite plane in the old Il-2 sim. I tried all other types but the P-39 stuck

as I liked all the characteristicts; a joy to fly and packing a big punch.

 

Let's see if the FM differs from the old Il-2 and take it from there.

[BMA_FlyingShark]

P39 for me but the G6 is also a plane I'm looking forward to (and the others too).

 

[Finkeren]

The La-5FN coming in 3.001 made it a bit harder for me to choose, but it’s still the P-39.

[303_Bies]

I'm waiting for Aircobra, that's something different. Looks like i'm in majority here.

 

I'm afraid of La-5FN because of the way it was modelled in an old IL2. It was better then La-5F by huge margin in every singe aspect, manuverability, climb rate, speed etc. when irl it was just slightly improved aerodynamics and some additional engine power which was hard to use anyway because of engine overheating. 

So i'm afraid of both; flying as La-5FN and being called UFO, nobrainer etc. and flying against it obviously. And I am afraid of introducing an unhealthy atmosphere by this plane. On the other hand, considering the level of modeling of existing planes by developers, I am optimistic. 

 

BTW. You have a unique community here, especially comparing them to the toxic childish War Thunder community. And developers are really open for suggestions and stay in touch with users. Keep it up.

 

cheers

[Dakpilot]

I'm waiting for Aircobra, that's something different. Looks like i'm in majority here.

 

I'm afraid of La-5FN because of the way it was modelled in an old IL2. It was better then La-5F by huge margin in every singe aspect, manuverability, climb rate, speed etc. when irl it was just slightly improved aerodynamics and some additional engine power which was hard to use anyway because of engine overheating. 

So i'm afraid of both; flying as La-5FN and being called UFO, nobrainer etc. and flying against it obviously. And I am afraid of introducing an unhealthy atmosphere by this plane. On the other hand, considering the level of modeling of existing planes by developers, I am optimistic. 

 

BTW. You have a unique community here, especially comparing them to the toxic childish War Thunder community. And developers are really open for suggestions and stay in touch with users. Keep it up.

 

cheers

 

As I understand the original IL-2 La5FN was based on a very late war 'optimum' series

 

The 'BoK' FN is earlier series 2 example

 

Cheers, Dakpilot

[Jade_Monkey]

Voted for A-20. Also interested in the P-39, I'm building a non-historical campaign for it (using yak1 as a placeholder).

 

Edit: by the way, does anyone know if the P-39 will be able to use the NDB to navigate? i'm wondering if I can use that for a mission.

Edited January 10, 2018 by Jade_Monkey

[Necrobaron]

I voted A-20 but the P-39 is a close runner up!

[A-E-Hartmann]

G-6 for me.

[JG7_X-Man]

P-39, As I am looking forward to shooting it down!

[xvii-Dietrich]

I voted Bf 109 G-6, as it was used by the Ilmavoimat.

 

 

 

I don't want to start a debate but I am surprised that so many people see the P39 as more desirable than the LA-5FN which causing the LW to crap themselves.

 

 

It is a Western Allies aircraft.

 

There are a lot of people who are not particularly interested in the Soviet machines, and would rather fly US or GB airframes.

 

With the exception of the P-40, the P-39 is the only other American machine to be available until the release of BoBo (which is still a long way off yet).

[Ehret]

I admit I too am curious about exactly *why* the P39 was so successful on the Eastern front when it was not very successful in the West.  I can only think it is because it is rugged and hard hitting which suits the VVS style of 'Jump in and slug it out.' where the RAF & USAF preferred a more refined approach to combat. 

 

The Aircobra had a poor high altitude supercharger and a rather short endurance. Poor tactics used by P39s' squadrons initially didn't help either. The West had more designs incoming too, so they could be fussy.

 

Considering the flight envelope and armament, the P39 was most similar to usual soviet's constructions. Yet, the Aircobra was more aerodynamic, robust and well equipped (solid radios!) - an enormous improvement for eastern pilots. They could finally meet the LW on an equal ground both in employed tactics and performance.

 

Switching from the P40 to the P39 you will get: +100HP to nominal power, 3x-5x longer higher boost levels, lower drag/faster speed, and an improved visibility.

[Stig]

The North African air war wasn't the high altitude combat environment that it was in the ETO; it was more low and mid alt, not all that different from the Eastern Front. So why the P-39 did better in Soviet hands than the Western Allies is curious. It's also strange that the P-40 wasn't held in the same high regard, as the combat environment on the Eastern Front should have suited it just as well as the P-39.   

[ATA_Vasilij]

Yak 7b

 

in other planes absolutely no interest. Will never fly P39. And La5fn I will take probably only once, just to assure that the view from the cockpit is still terrible.

[MacLeod]

Hands down the Lavochkin!

[=LD=Hethwill]

The FN. Give it to me baby.

 

Yak-7 ? Gimme !

 

P-39 ? Rock'on.

 

A-20 ? Oh boy oh boy, a flying pig with a temper.

 

The other ? Not really caring for it.

Edited February 21, 2018 by =LD=Hethwill

[TP_Sparky]

On 2/18/2018 at 8:40 AM, Ehret said:

Switching from the P40 to the P39 you will get: +100HP to nominal power, 3x-5x longer higher boost levels, lower drag/faster speed, and an improved visibility.

 

And a 37mm centerline cannon. And a car door.

 

Interesting how Americans wrote of Soviets using 39's for ground attack whilst the Soviets felt the IL2 served better there and used 39's for air to air.  I've ordered some books to read about Soviet 39 pilots.

[TP_Sparky]

My favorite BoK a/c is the La-5FN Series 2.  Now if we just get numerical parity.   Compared to the FW-190A5 it turns quicker, it's faster and it climbs faster at all combat altitudes.  I love my Yak-1b but can't wait to get hands on the FN.

 

For AtA it seems my Yak-1b is a better performer and has far better visibility than the Yak-7.  One machine gun less, slightly less able to absorb damage, but still, the visibility from the Yak-1b bubble canopy keeps me alive and it'd be hard to go back to the greenhouse of the Yak-7.

[Ehret]

2 hours ago, slparker17 said:

 

And a 37mm centerline cannon. And a car door.

 

Interesting how Americans wrote of Soviets using 39's for ground attack whilst the Soviets felt the IL2 served better there and used 39's for air to air.  I've ordered some books to read about Soviet 39 pilots.

 

I misread in game stats for P39 - the nominal power is the same as for the P40.

 

And Americans... perhaps they had to "save face" in some way after calling the Aircobra turd. Otherwise someone would conclude that western pilots were incompetent compared to Soviets.

 

 

 

[5./StG.1_DLMalloy]

A-20 BABY!!! 

[TP_Sparky]

9 hours ago, Ehret said:

And Americans... perhaps they had to "save face" in some way after calling the Aircobra turd. Otherwise someone would conclude that western pilots were incompetent compared to Soviets.

 

Remember that Soviets got later and improved models of the 39 and the Soviets often removed the wing guns which (on any aircraft) improves agility.

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

Also the later Q model Airacobras got .50 cals in gunpods under the wings... not only affecting agility but also speed.

[TP_Sparky]

After the mailman came today I'm excited.  I may change my favorite BoK a/c after I dig into these stories.  I hope our P-39's are without the wing guns or that we can remove them to be accurate.