EAF19_Marsh Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 HI RiFiGer, that sounds great. Any chance of some fairly generic ones in the mix? I always liked flying aircraft numbered 5...
RaFiGer Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) @EAF19_Marsh Yes, indeed... I will redo these paint schemes (Top Cover for Sturmgruppen Bf-109 G6 of IV./JG 3). This will be a complete wing with numerals from 1 to 16! I can do Number 5 first Spoiler Edited April 19, 2018 by RaFiGer 1
sevenless Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, MeoW.Scharfi said: Yes, i would rather prefer historical skins. Unfortunately I haven't found any of 4./JG52 in G4/G6(1943) area. What about Barkhorns mount (G2 or G4) as squad leader of 4./52 before he took over II./52 in Sept 43.? Heinrich Sturm took over 4./52 from him until April 44, so his mount will be most likely a G6. Who followed on Sturm I don´t know, but in Oktober Hartmann took over the Staffel and his white 1 (late G6, black tulip and Erla canopy) is well documented. Spoiler Edited April 19, 2018 by sevenless 1
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Ladies and gents, I have been thinking a bit. There may be people who cannot bring it about themselves to fly the Swastika, though it was historically there. I thought, maybe there are Jewish flyers, who would like to participate in BoS and fly the Bf 109 - but not with that emblem. That is understandable for me. And so I made two versions of "Scharfi's Black 4" - one with, and one without that emblem. I also removed the bright ring on the tailwheel, which is now black rubber, and the metal parts are RLM 66 Black-Grey. The Swastika version has the German bold cross on the side without the black, as it was in the profile Scharfi had sent. I had simply overlooked that (skinning can be a tiring and looong process). http://www.mediafire.com/file/n8x2osnfll1n8ou/Bf_109_G-6_Black_4_(2_versions).7z I left the first version in there for download - that version WITH the bright tailwheel ring. So I hope EVERYone can find a version for her-/himself now. Have fun! Edited April 19, 2018 by Wolfram-Harms 2 1
BOO Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, MeoW.Scharfi said: Yes, i would rather prefer historical skins. Unfortunately I haven't found any of 4./JG52 in G4/G6(1943) area. I have a only a few pictures of 4/52 aircraft. A lot of JG52 in general though. The most photographed is Barkhorn's but this tends to be Stab II aircraft. The photo of the model kit is what id consider to be pretty close. This matches well the contemporary photo of one of Barkhorn's G6s. Ive been playing about with the G6 template toady adding a few details and lines and the like. And I got to playing about - this is only a mess about. Guess if you want historical the "Love Heart Cat" will just have to go :-) Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Edited April 19, 2018 by BOO 2 1
Junjun_Nikurasu Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Wolfram-Harms said: I thought, maybe there are Jewish flyers, who would like to participate in BoS and fly the Bf 109 - but not with that emblem. I couldn't agree more. My favorite musician is a Jew; Dan Avidan or by his stage name Danny Sexbang from youtube.
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Junjun_Nikurasu said: I couldn't agree more. My favorite musician is a Jew; Dan Avidan or by his stage name Danny Sexbang from youtube. Many great artists are Jewish, actors and musicians. The list would be long. 1
BOO Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Panel lines and 3D highlights added to Rafi's template. All lines are matched up to the normal map to enhance the focus. Alterations made to panel shading and seval other layers to match. All files sent to Rafi for his consideration.
BOO Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) So this is about where I got to with a 4./JG52 G6. The camo is muted as per a lot of the photos of general JG52 aircraft from 43. The rest is an nod to Scharfi. Added panel lines, new shading, panel line shading, dust weathering and some other stuff to RafiGer's 4K template as well as a few alterations. All panel lines set to match RaFiGer's normal map. LINKS DELETED 22/04/18 - Ive made a lot of amendment to the stuff I did and stuff it affects (22 layers and 600 rivets for a start plus a lot of finessing of the panel lines and de-bugging) RafiGer now has them. I don't this skin is too bad but the new work is far better IMHO. I'll re post the link once the new template has been finalised and the skin can be made with it. Spoiler --- Spoiler Spoiler Edited April 22, 2018 by BOO 3 2
samson Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 19 hours ago, sevenless said: What about Barkhorns mount (G2 or G4) as squad leader of 4./52 before he took over II./52 in Sept 43.? Heinrich Sturm took over 4./52 from him until April 44, so his mount will be most likely a G6. Who followed on Sturm I don´t know, but in Oktober Hartmann took over the Staffel and his white 1 (late G6, black tulip and Erla canopy) is well documented. Hide contents Well, here is the skin without swastika but looks alike:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PLfUJWSTNVP1tGuLG5zxn2K_YeYtOL9U 1
sevenless Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, samson said: Well, here is the skin without swastika but looks alike:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PLfUJWSTNVP1tGuLG5zxn2K_YeYtOL9U Hey cool. Looks good. Any chance you might be able to apply the name "Christl" as on his original mount? Anyways, I like it a lot! 2 hours ago, BOO said: So this is about where I got to with a 4./JG52 G6. The camo is muted as per a lot of the photos of general JG52 aircraft from 43. The rest is an nod to Scharfi. Added panel lines, new shading, panel line shading, dust weathering and some other stuff to RafiGer's 4K template as well as a few alterations. All panel lines set to match RaFiGer's normal map. With Historic Markings http://www.mediafire.com/file/cpopqsss5rv999a/Bf106G6_2_JG52_3_Schaffri.dds Without HK http://www.mediafire.com/file/pad4qb5711n4tv5/Bf109G6_4_52_3_Schrafi_NO_HK.dds Absolutely pretty. Thanks for sharing! 1 1
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Bf 109 G-6 skin completed for Gerhard Barkhorn (made after a profile for a HASEGAWA model kit). Not sure though, if this skin has been flown over Kuban, or only later. I made two versions, one w. fake swastika. http://www.mediafire.com/file/2t24ttd69hw9dto/Bf_109_G-6_Barkhorn.7z Enjoy! 5 1 1
=FEW=Hauggy Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Amazing! Also if you think nazi symbolic is only offensive to a certain religion...well it's not I knew a guy (not a Jew) who would litteraly never fly a German ww2 plane IN A VIDEO GAME because some relative among many civilians got strafed by stukas during the fall of France. There are also people who can put things in perspective and don't get offended because of a symbol put in the right context, I personally don't see how censorship is good when the historical accuracy is not here to promote anything else than historical accuracy. I have nothing to say against any game dev who censors this as there are laws to abide to if you want to sell your game in Germany and Russia but political correctness and censorship is personally not my cup of tea and seem more damaging than anything else in general. Edited April 20, 2018 by =FEW=Hauggy
E69_julian57 Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Skin 4k Bf 109 G-6 5th Blue Squad Bobruisk 1944 Spoiler Download https://mega.nz/#!M6AzhLBQ!1JhUXfnuNX8tPGqz6vSrSoADGxShU080AY1qbVEGUPI 2 1
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, =FEW=Hauggy said: ..political correctness and censorship is personally not my cup of tea and seem more damaging than anything else in general. I feel the same way there. But I decided to respect those who may feel bad under that specific sign. I have no problem flying it, but for those who lost family members or friends in the holocaust... Well, let's not start a debate about this in a skin thread - I'm sure you all know what I mean. 1 1
EAF19_Marsh Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 6:31 PM, RaFiGer said: I can do Number 5 first You guys are simply fantastic; the added benefits of the aircraft that you provide is outstanding. Bless you all and the skins for all nations that you so lovingly and skillfully create. I like to fly most of the aircraft in the game, but the additional joy of having these pain-painstakingly-made aircraft skins is brilliant.
Trooper117 Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, E69_julian57 said: Skin 4k Bf 109 G-6 5th Blue Squad Bobruisk 1944 Hide contents Download https://mega.nz/#!M6AzhLBQ!1JhUXfnuNX8tPGqz6vSrSoADGxShU080AY1qbVEGUPI Link is US 1
DetCord12B Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 WIP - JG77 detachment near Luneburg ('44). Still need to properly weather the signage and fix the prop BL markings. Spoiler 4 12
RaFiGer Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 @Detcord12 Beside the very good & cool locking skins, the "photograph" you have taken LOOKS like a photograph 8 Thumps up (minimum) 1
II./JG27_Rich Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Although this camouflage is from the 4./JG53 Bf 109 G14/AS of Herbert Maxis from the date of January 1 1945 of Operation Bodenplatte I think they have done a nice job hear on this G6. It looks really nice on the G14/AS as it would on a G/10 or G6/AS..Maybe later on in Operation Bodenplatte. 1 2
sevenless Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) On 20.04.2018 at 8:07 PM, Wolfram-Harms said: Bf 109 G-6 skin completed for Gerhard Barkhorn (made after a profile for a HASEGAWA model kit). Not sure though, if this skin has been flown over Kuban, or only later. I made two versions, one w. fake swastika. http://www.mediafire.com/file/2t24ttd69hw9dto/Bf_109_G-6_Barkhorn.7z Enjoy! First off, I really like your skin. It offers a great variation to the Barkhorn skin we already have in the game which obviously depicts a different machine (open chevron and 5). And furthermore I really like your graphic style. Please note the closed chevron with the 5 and the angle of the name Christl, that machine was his second and later G6 mount wherein he scored his 250th victory in Feb 44. Since you asked, if your or the Hasegawa scheme has been used over Kuban and is close to representing the real thing, I found this as a possible reference: Edited April 21, 2018 by sevenless
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Thank you, sevenless! Seems Barkhorn (and most other aces) have flow a lot of different aircraft and camo shemes during their war time. I knew all the pics you presented, but they all seemed to have some mottling. The one from the HASEGAWA modeller site I chose is different. I cannot say if it really is correct - all I did was to follow the modeller's profile (a pity he didn't mention when this skin was meant to be flown - could well be towards the very end of the war). Here is the site: http://www.internetmodeler.com/scalemodels/flaviation/Hasegawa-s-1-32-Bf-109G-6.php
sevenless Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Wolfram-Harms said: Thank you, sevenless! Seems Barkhorn (and most other aces) have flow a lot of different aircraft and camo shemes during their war time. I knew all the pics you presented, but they all seemed to have some mottling. The one from the HASEGAWA modeller site I chose is different. I cannot say if it really is correct - all I did was to follow the modeller's profile (a pity he didn't mention when this skin was meant to be flown - could well be towards the very end of the war). Here is the site: http://www.internetmodeler.com/scalemodels/flaviation/Hasegawa-s-1-32-Bf-109G-6.php Spoiler Thanks for sharing. I guess his chosen painting pattern has some kind of "artistic freedom", however I think your depiction of it spices up the available skins a little bit. And in the end that is what it is all about, having fun flying the sim and having fun using or creating well crafted skins (realistic or not). Keep up the good work! Here is another pic of his 250 mount. Edited April 21, 2018 by sevenless 1 1
E69_julian57 Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 Update bf 109 5th Blue Squad. 2w. by small error 04/22/2018 Download https://mega.nz/#!5zYCiBxB!fnVenqzFFjbVcDVW5hPaQbUFhWsZ4EEGRgpTVKVbf8k
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 21, 2018 Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, sevenless said: Here is another pic of his 250 mount. Ah, that is one I didn't know - thanks a lot! This one shows his writing "Christl" quite close and clear!
RaFiGer Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Thanks a lot for all these skins, guys Just as a promise, the Umbrella Holder & the feet step underneath the cockpit will be included in the next template, there a some changes necessary. But luckily it is only a matter of addig the new layer, saving the skins again. I will also do a new Normal map but will add a "Mod" to exchange the Bump Maps easier! 1
RaFiGer Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) @Community While BOO has given me an alternative Layer for more highlighted set of panel lines and rivets and corrected some misalignment. I'm working on the new Templates for the G-Models with reference to construction drawings. Prior to release the complete Templates to the community I will offer some more Bf-109 paint schemes with a hybrid version of the Template featuring new openings, details for exhaust openings (metal structure Air Intake a.s.o.), antenna holders und bolted parts. I would also like to now if anyone is already working on the so called "Cartoon Squad" of 7./JG 53 "Pik As", because I have got all decals now in scale 1:32 and are starting to paint the whole know planes which showed a coloured "Cartoons" refering to the nickname of the pilots on one fuselage sides. These cartoons was photographed by advancing U.S. Troops when they discovered the left beside german planes. The Bf-109 G6 will get an updated version of the Template which include Layers by BOO and Detcord so I hope to have this ready by end of the week featuring also an updated Alpha Layer and a new Normal Map. If you have MODS enable I will offer a little "Mod" that exchanges the original Normal Map with the Templates on. Here's a Teaser showing some new elements on the plane fuselage: . Edited April 24, 2018 by RaFiGer 1 5
BOO Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, RaFiGer said: I would also like to now if anyone is already working on the so called "Cartoon Squad" of 7./JG 53 "Pik As", because I have got all decals now in scale 1:32 and are starting to paint the whole know planes which showed a coloured "Cartoons" refering to the nickname of the pilots on one fuselage sides. These cartoons was photographed by advancing U.S. Troops when they discovered the left beside german planes. . er.......well I was....:-) Spoiler 1
RaFiGer Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Okay, BOO Do you have all the other cartoons? If not as soon as I get the decals I can send you these, so you can do all of them, and I switch to others Edited April 24, 2018 by RaFiGer 1
Zargos Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Well I had planed to upgrade my former 2k "Pik As cartoon" skins (made with a G2 template at the time) into real "G6" with the 4k template of RaFiGer. But since BOO seems to start 4K skin, it is not necessary that I make them as well. Edited April 24, 2018 by Zargos 1
BOO Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, RaFiGer said: Okay, BOO Do you have all the other cartoons? If not as soon as I get the decals I can send you these, so you can do all of them, and I switch to others 7 minutes ago, Zargos said: Well I had planed to upgrade my former 2k "Pik As cartoon" skins (made with a G2 template at the time) into real "G6" with the 4k template of RaFiGer. But since BOO seems to start 4K skin, it is not necessary that I make them as well. This was the only scheme I was playing with - more for re-acquaintance with GIMP - Id noticed someone had aske for it in 4k a while ago. BUT!!! I am more than happy for someone with the Skills of you Rafi or Zargos to do them instead - I think the finished products would benefit more from experience than me splurging about in gimp and do greater justice to your template. Crack on Zargos!! :-) 1
RaFiGer Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Hey BOO, Your work is looking good and I think you can make it! And there are more Look, these Decals sheet from ILIAD is presenting all known cartoons, so I send it to you in best scan copy as soon I have the original, that's a copy from their catalog! Spoiler Edited April 24, 2018 by RaFiGer
BOO Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 White 9 7./JG53 Pachino, Scordia, Sicily July 1943. Awaiting RaFiGer's V.003 Template!! 4 11
Wolfram-Harms Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 Beau-ti-ful, Boo! Carry on when you have the new template - nice work!
BOO Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 13 hours ago, Wolfram-Harms said: Beau-ti-ful, Boo! Carry on when you have the new template - nice work! 12 hours ago, Trooper117 said: That is a great skin! 11 hours ago, Zargos said: Yes great one ! Thank you Chaps! - I was looking over the reference pictures I have for it and am now convinced that the wing pattern was a straight edged version. the green mottle stripe is also a tad too far back, there is a replacement MG cowl just fwd of the canopy in RLM 75 and there is a little more bulk to the mottling on the tail. All will be changed for the final version.
RaFiGer Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 @BOO Looks great More information on the way, got Mail confirmation. Postal way from Canada to Germany by courier should not take too long!!! 1
Wolfram-Harms Posted May 2, 2018 Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Today I was working on an autumn version of the "Scharfi Skin". It still needs some corrections, and then I will upload it with the other for all who want it. EDIT: Wow, Scharfi, THAT was a QUICK reaction! Were you lurking behind a bush? Edited May 2, 2018 by Wolfram-Harms 2 2
Danziger Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 9 hours ago, Wolfram-Harms said: Today I was working on an autumn version of the "Scharfi Skin". It still needs some corrections, and then I will upload it with the other for all who want it. EDIT: Wow, Scharfi, THAT was a QUICK reaction! Were you lurking behind a bush? You don't get a notification when someone mentions you in a post? 1
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