Pict Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 I just managed to make a mistaken purchase of IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover BLITZ I only realized that I have to have the steam app thing installed to run it, after I paid for it and went to register the key to download it. I went to pre-purchase the La-5FN & the 109G-6, then noticed COD Blitz was available on this site and figured I would get that instead of the 109. I simply will not put steam on my PC so I simply cannot access COD Blitz. Is there any way to redress this mistake? I would happily swap it for the 109G-6, even although I'm not likely to fly it much...as I'm never gonna use steam, ever. I know this seems like an uniformed thing to do, but seeing it on this site gave me the impression it was available here like BOS etc., and information pertaining to steam goes over my head somewhat as I don't use it. I would suggest a very large and clear statement that steam is a prerequisite for COD Blitz at the start of every mention of COD Blitz on this website, to help those of us who know little to nothing of how steam works avoid getting into this position Thanks for any help in advance
Jaws2002 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 2005 called. It wants it's Steamphobia back. Edited December 24, 2017 by Jaws2002 9
Warpig Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 What's so wrong with Steam? Having the chance to play CloD is totally worth it. You'll be just fine with Steam on your PC.
Danziger Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 I also despise steam. It's why I never got very deep into CloD. 1
Archie Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 I dislike steam, but have it installed for Cliffs. It just runs in the background and I ignore it and don't worry about it.
Jaws2002 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 I had games on steam since around 2004 and over time, i found Steam to be the best way to keep my games. Everything i ever bought from them is safe on steam, no mater how many times I uninstalled them. Steam is the best platform for PC games. 1
Pict Posted December 24, 2017 Author Posted December 24, 2017 Wow...I seem to have touched a nerve here eh? I though there might be the odd comment about not flying the 109G-6 very much, but steam??? Who's to know eh Why I do or do not want to use steam is not the topic though, nor is it about steam in general, thanks for the input anyhow. I really just want to "trade" my un-registered version of COD for the 109G-6, and offer a little feedback that might evade the same situation occring for another person like me If the developer can fix this for me it would be the cleanest solution, but I suppose I can still gift COD to someone who would be prepared to gift me a 109G-6...they would save about $4 in the process Why do you guys not like steam? For me it's not about steam per say...I just don't want any additional software I deem unnecessary on my PC & for me steam falls into that category.
Jaws2002 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) For me it's not about steam per say...I just don't want any additional software I deem unnecessary on my PC & for me steam falls into that category. Missing out on Cliffs of Dover for that falls in the "cutting your nose, to spite your face" category. Anyway. Cliffs of Dover is an amazing game, and in many ways surpasses everything else out there. Edited December 24, 2017 by Jaws2002 1
Archie Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I suppose I can still gift COD to someone who would be prepared to gift me a 109G-6...they would save about $4 in the process Probably your best option TBH. Edited December 24, 2017 by Archie
ShamrockOneFive Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Best bet is to contact customer service through the support link on the main website and see what they can do for you. 1
BP_Lizard Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 As far as I know, you can return games and ask for a refund if it was played for less than 2 hours within 14 days of purchase.
LLv24_SukkaVR Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 As far as I know, you can return games and ask for a refund if it was played for less than 2 hours within 14 days of purchase. Yes, if you bought it from Steam. But seems like Pict bought it from IL-2 store. And i dont really get your hate against Steam Pict. Its not some malware/bloatware/useless crap you are trying to avoid. Its very handy gaming platform where you can store your games. Automatic updates, communities, store, friends list etc. It just makes everything so easier. Never had any problems with it.
curiousGamblerr Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Email support. Nobody here can help you, they'll just keep asking why you don't like Steam 2
Lusekofte Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 If you ever going to se VR in this game you are going to have to use Steam as I understand it. But anyway, I really do not see any problems with you buying the Blitz, Great support of a great WW2 simulator, and if there is a problem I might pay you the money you spend on it just for supporting TFS and 1C that make COD continue to live. But if that is going to happened it must wait until over new year 1
Livai Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I suppose he saw this error message............................ Edited December 24, 2017 by Livai 2
Warpig Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Wow...I seem to have touched a nerve here eh? Trust me, you didn't touch any nerves... Your reasoning just seems like a ridiculous reason to miss out on such a great game. I understand if you don't run unnecessary programs for PC over-head, but Steam can remain off when not playing any games. Anyways, my only goal is to dispel any fears that are hindering you from playing such a great title. 1
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Just make an additional Windows installation on a separate drive dedicated to Steam. That’s what I do for software that I do not trust if virtual machines are not an option for performance reasons. Note that I’m not suggesting that Steam is bad. However, I do understand the desire to avoid unnecessary software.
Jaws2002 Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Steam is a great platform, that allowed smaller PC game design studios to access a huge market, that would otherwise be off limit to small budget teams. If it wasn't for Steam, Cliffs of Dover would have never had a second chance.
Royal_Flight Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 If you don't want to use Steam then don't. Your computer, your rules and you get to choose what you install on it. I'm the same with a handful of other programs and it's entirely personal preference. That said, I don't think there's a way around this, best thing to do is as you suggested yourself which is to trade for something else that you would rather have. Also bear in mind that the newly-rebranded 'Dover edition' isn't compatible with the BoX series and opinion seems fairly divided on whether CloD is a worthwhile platform to invest in, so there's that. If I didn't already own CloD I'd offer to swap with you but maybe someone else here can take you up on the offer, if customer services can't help resolve this issue. Maybe try posting in the CloD section of the forum as well in case there are any takers there. 1
SCG_Fenris_Wolf Posted December 24, 2017 Posted December 24, 2017 Wait till he finds out the G6 is not released yet, and he cannot fly it yet 1
johncage Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 install steam, refund game, uninstall steam.
Herne Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Steam will let you refund a game if you have played it for less than 2 hours. the 109 g6 you can purchase it here :- https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-planes/ without going through steam edit: might be a good idea to confirm you own BoK, before you pre purchase this plane though second edit : NM i see that you do Edited December 25, 2017 by =11=herne
SharpeXB Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Dont let a misplaced aversion to Steam prevent you from having this one-of-a-kind sim. Really you won’t see another one like Cliffs of Dover, with all the challenges this game faced and now fortunately being repaired and rereleased. There’s no detriment to installing Steam at all and you’d be missing out on a fantastic sim.
Pict Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Wait till he finds out the G6 is not released yet, and he cannot fly it yet Try reading what I said in my opening post...it might save you from making unnecessary comments Here it is again with the all important letters highlighted in red just for you "I went to pre-purchase the La-5FN & the 109G-6, ... " Edited December 25, 2017 by Pict 1
Pict Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 I suppose he saw this error message............................ You suppose wrong... if want to know what I saw you should have the decency to ask me instead of making supposition that are of less than any help
Pict Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) If you ever going to se VR in this game you are going to have to use Steam as I understand it. But anyway, I really do not see any problems with you buying the Blitz, Great support of a great WW2 simulator, and if there is a problem I might pay you the money you spend on it just for supporting TFS and 1C that make COD continue to live. But if that is going to happened it must wait until over new year First off thanks for the offer, but no thanks all the same. I'm not looking for a freebie anymore than I intend to pay out on a product I will never use...I just want to sort this out in a clean fashion and after seeing the feedback from this thread I think contacting their support people will be the best option. I have purchased everything this great bunch of developers have put up for sale, other than the 109G-6 and the Bodenplate pre-purchase, which I have been lucky enough to have given as an xmas gift. So they have had more than a few bucks out of me over time, bucks I'm happy to put their way. As far as VR goes I understand you are correct about steam...for now at least, but I neither have the hardware nor the inclination to go down the VR route at the moment, so it's a non issue for me...for now. As far as COD goes, I'm sure it's wonderful, but if I had wanted to buy it anytime over the last few years I could have done so. The odds are it will be incorporated into BOX at some point down the line...I will buy it (again) then Thanks again anyhow Edited December 25, 2017 by Pict
Pict Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 Email support. Nobody here can help you, they'll just keep asking why you don't like Steam Good idea...and thanks to the few level headed people who gave such advice Seems to be a bunch of nosy, anything but helpful, steam cheerleaders wanting to do anything but open their own steam worship thread, spamming my simple request for a bit of sensible feedback. 1
71st_AH_Hooves Posted December 25, 2017 Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Clod will never be adapted to the BOX universe. Completely different game engine. You need to contact the support team here that you purchased it from. Requesting a refund from Steam is pointless as you didnt purchase it there. Further more, you may want to do more research when purchasing a game in the future. Many games now adays are linked to the Steam world evwn though purchasable via a tbird party website. Further further more, what did you expect coming into a place, claiming a silly mistake, for a silly reason then beig offended when people question your irrational conclusions? Seriously, become accountable for your own actions, and you will have far less trouble. Mods, pleaae close this. It will go no where good. Edited December 25, 2017 by 71st_AH_Hooves
Pict Posted December 25, 2017 Author Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) Further further more, what did you expect coming into a place, claiming a silly mistake, for a silly reason then beig offended when people question your irrational conclusions? I'm not offended, nor did I make a silly mistake... There is nowhere where it clearly states that steam is an absolute requirement for COD on the IL2 store page I purchased it from... that is the main problem I have encountered All the fluff about steam is aside the issue, which I find annoying, but hardly offensive Edited December 25, 2017 by Pict 1
Mewt Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 It's a pity you're scared of Steam, as Cliffs is fantastic at the moment.
Pict Posted December 27, 2017 Author Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) It's a pity you're scared of Steam, as Cliffs is fantastic at the moment. Terrified... It's also a pity they don't also do a non-steam version, like they already do with BOX and so many other software developers do From what I see on YouTube, it's certainly looking way better than it was and I would really have liked to have tried it out. It was me that supplied the original team a decent, just post WW2 aerial photo of Pontoise / Cormeille aerodrome in France, near Paris. It was outside of the original scope of the map, but it got in. It's very near me and I've flown out of there in light aircraft...it had Do17's and Ju88's in 1940 and Jg2 used it from 42 up until D-Day. It's cool taxiing around a place that Egon Mayer and the Richthofen 190's used... So sure there are many reasons I'd like to give it a go, not least now that I own it Edited December 27, 2017 by Pict
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