VR quality with my pc specs?

[Ribbon]

Sorry mods for bringing it up here, i need it to be seen, move it later please!

 

What settings could i run (both in SP/MP) if go for Oculus Rift, balanced/high/ultra?

my pc specs; i7 6700k, asus maximus ranger 8, 16gb 2400mhz ddr4 ram, msi gtx1070 oc, ssd.

I missed black friday but christmas sales are close, wanted to wait for next gen but read somewhere first next gen development kits will be in 2019 and full release not before end of 2019.

Thanks!

[TG-55Panthercules]

Sorry mods for bringing it up here, i need it to be seen, move it later please!

 

What settings could i run (both in SP/MP) if go for Oculus Rift, balanced/high/ultra?

my pc specs; i7 6700k, asus maximus ranger 8, 16gb 2400mhz ddr4 ram, msi gtx1070 oc, ssd.

I missed black friday but christmas sales are close, wanted to wait for next gen but read somewhere first next gen development kits will be in 2019 and full release not before end of 2019.

Thanks!

 

 

Take a look at this thread - it will give you a real good idea of how your rig compares to others and how it might perform in VR with various settings:

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/29322-measuring-rig-performance-common-baseline/

[Ribbon]

Thanks Panther!

[Ribbon]

Conclusion;

I might go for rift now, there is no point waiting next gen VR with current specs, or

wait and go for all at once to have best performance and not to struggle with fps on lower settings.

In a 10months i may upgrade to i7 8700k and 1080ti or better if it comes out which will be able to run next gen VR without problem.

[dburne]

Conclusion;

I might go for rift now, there is no point waiting next gen VR with current specs, or

wait and go for all at once to have best performance and not to struggle with fps on lower settings.

In a 10months i may upgrade to i7 8700k and 1080ti or better if it comes out which will be able to run next gen VR without problem.

 

Go for it!

 

I run a Rift on lower spec PC that yours , with exception of vid card, with very good results, on High settings.

Edited December 3, 2017 by dburne

[Ribbon]

Go for it!

 

I run a Rift on lower spec PC that yours , with exception of vid card, with very good results, on High settings.

That's encouraging, thanks!

[Lensman]

I thoroughly recommend the Rift for IL-2.

It's a compromise (lower resolution and goodbye to your keyboard) but what you get in return is amazing! The Rift is far more comfortable for lengthy seated usage than the Vive. I definitely suggest a CH Products throttle as well because of the large number of easily (blind) identifiable tactile buttons.

[Ribbon]

I thoroughly recommend the Rift for IL-2.

It's a compromise (lower resolution and goodbye to your keyboard) but what you get in return is amazing! The Rift is far more comfortable for lengthy seated usage than the Vive. I definitely suggest a CH Products throttle as well because of the large number of easily (blind) identifiable tactile buttons.

Thanks!

I got TCWS throttle which also has great number of buttons and axis, few controls will miss (canopy and nav lights) but i will manage something, cant set them on joystick since it's gunfighter with KG12 grip but once MCG goes out.....

[chiliwili69]

No doubt! your current rig is more than enough for the Rift with IL-2.

My rig is similar to yours and I have a very pleasant flights in VR.

 

If I were you, my only doubt would be what to buy for IL-2, the Rift (better price than Vive) or any Windows MR headset.

The rift works well in all senses, but it has a lower resolution than the Windows MR, specially the Samsung Odyssey.

But in the other hand, some Windows MR has currently an IPD issue that we hope it will be fixed soon. 

 

If you want it for Christmas, I would wait a couple of weeks to see if it is solved and then decide.

Or perhaps, you can buy the Rift now and sale it later (I think the price will not go lower) in 2018 to buy the Odyssey if they fix the issue or to see how Pimax 8K evolves.

 

 

my pc specs; i7 6700k

 

Forgot to mention you will need to OC your CPU to 4.6 or 4.7. So, decent CPU cooling will be needed.

This is something you can start doing while you wait for your VR device. 

[mazex]

Sorry mods for bringing it up here, i need it to be seen, move it later please!

 

What settings could i run (both in SP/MP) if go for Oculus Rift, balanced/high/ultra?

my pc specs; i7 6700k, asus maximus ranger 8, 16gb 2400mhz ddr4 ram, msi gtx1070 oc, ssd.

I missed black friday but christmas sales are close, wanted to wait for next gen but read somewhere first next gen development kits will be in 2019 and full release not before end of 2019.

Thanks!

 

I have a Vive with a GTX970 (see specs in sig) and with kind of maxed settings in IL2 I get around 40 FPS. People say that it should not be enough but I think it works awsome! Waiting for a GTX2080 whenever that arrives in 2018, but I am all fine up until then...

[=VARP=Cygann]

I am very new to VR, but I have quite nice VR experience with my oldish 4770K OC'ed to 4,4Ghz and 1070 GTX card. No complaints on IL2 implementation of VR (tech on the other hand needs improvements when hardware becomes more capable - maybe some VR SLI etc...)

 

Only thing I don't like is about VR is recognition, seems like planes are always too dark at even moderate distance, but that is IL2 general issue with monitors as well, only it's more pronounced in VR.

I think Devs shoud try to keep plane colors visible for a bit longer then it is the case in this game. At least on 300-500 meters planes should not be near black as they are now unless they got really dark camo.

 

Those planes did have colors and insignia on them for a reason (I don't expect to clear see insignia far away in VR, but keeping colors brighter and more visible under 500m should be doable in this engine regardless of the model size and complexity rendered at the time). 

[Herne]

I tend to use balanced settings. When I first started I used ultra, and later high, problem was in a dogfight, sometimes It was hard to ID targets, as fast moving targets would suffer from ghosting. I later changed to Balance. Game still looks gorgeous in VR and I get very few occasions where the frame rate drops so low that it cuts momentarily to the steam VR screen, which can be really distracting.

 

I can't imagine that I could enjoy playing IL2 now without VR. It's been a huge game changer for me.

Edited December 4, 2017 by =11=herne

[OrLoK]

Turn off ASW for a more enjoyable experience imho.

 

Also, dont forget tgeres some great mods to turn older games into VR wich i think surpass the majority of pure VR games.

 

You wont regret becoming one of us...

 

 

One of us! One of us! One of us!

[dburne]

Turn off ASW for a more enjoyable experience imho.

 

 

This.

 

I have a profile set in Oculus Tray Tool to turn ASW off for BoS, works a charm and I never see the ghosting or spinning prop artifacts. And still butter smooth even when framerates dip into like the 60's.

[Ribbon]

Thanks guys, some really helpful answers you provided me with!

Chiliwili i'll check that windows MR or even wait a bit longer to see how that comes up and wgat performance could have with my specs since i only play cockpit games.

[Ribbon]

Just checked samsung oddisey and it seems really promising, not high end pc needed and with better resolution....problem is it won't be compatible with steamVR for next two months.

[dburne]

Thanks guys, some really helpful answers you provided me with!

Chiliwili i'll check that windows MR or even wait a bit longer to see how that comes up and wgat performance could have with my specs since i only play cockpit games.

 

Back when I ordered my Rift in Jan, I was in that boat as far as only playing flight sim games. 

But I went ahead and ordered the Touch controllers as well ( at that time they were not offered in the bundle like they are now), and once I got them set up and gave a try, it opened up a whole nother world of VR gaming for me. And I have had an absolutely blast with them.

 

Now my first love, and the majority of my time, is still devoted to VR flight simming, but I also now have a lot of fun with some occasional short breaks to play some of the good Touch supported games out there.

 

I think when it comes to overall experience, the Rift and Vive still win hands down as they do everything quite well, especially with positional tracking. 

 

And with the new Oculus Rift Core 2.0 software coming, along with Dash, those controllers are going to play an even bigger part in the whole experience and usability from within the VR environment.

https://www.oculus.com/blog/introducing-rift-core/

[OrLoK]

Just checked samsung oddisey and it seems really promising, not high end pc needed and with better resolution....problem is it won't be compatible with steamVR for next two months.

Really do consider the rift.

 

Theres bound to be even more reductions on the run up to Xmas.

 

The positional stuff is key.

[Ribbon]

Really do consider the rift.

 

Theres bound to be even more reductions on the run up to Xmas.

 

The positional stuff is key.

Rift is still top on my list!

Samsung oddysey have better specs (1440×1600p, improved tracking) and suposedly can go now with steamvr but not much games there is for it which i don't really care, what concern me how it will run on il2 or ED.

They say it's not hardware demanding which i don't get since it's up to game and 2×1440p must be demanding for hardware.

Edited December 4, 2017 by EAF_Ribbon

[Warpig]

I've been doing some heavy research on comparisons lately because I'm upgrading my current i7 2600K system to the new i7 8700K. Based on what I've seen so far, RAM speed seems to be important in the VR world. Because of this, I cancelled my order for DDR4 16GB 3200MHz, and paid the extra $50 for a DDR4 16GB 3600MHz kit.

 

So my current upgrade will include:(In the mail and on it's way )

-i7 8700K

-MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon

-CoolerMaster MasterAir Maker 8 CPU Cooler (this coolers performance will determine if I delid or not)

-Corsair Vengence DDR4 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz (there seems to be no need in gaming for anything more than 16GB RAM at this moment)

-Samsung 960 EVO (boot drive)

 

I'm waiting to upgrade my GTX 770 2GB until the next gen of Nvidia cards come out, since this card works just fine for my current 1080p requirements, (plays all games on high settings). By then, I should be paid off for the current hardware upgrades (Amazon card FTW), and ready to buy the new graphics card and a VR solution.

 

I'm thinking this approach should pay off down the road, and should leave me ready for any further enhanced VR devices that may appear by then. So it's basically a one year plan to upgrade to a VR ready PC.

 

Opinions?

Edited December 4, 2017 by Warpig

[Ribbon]

I think it's good plan, but i would wait until i can purchase whole new pc. And than go for VR.

As guy in thread posted above showed results with i7 8700k and 1080ti it is already perfect for new gen VR.

Waiting few months for new card is always smart but then consider waiting also with new cpu and mobo and go for it all in the same time.

[Warpig]

I think it's good plan, but i would wait until i can purchase whole new pc. And than go for VR.

As guy in thread posted above showed results with i7 8700k and 1080ti it is already perfect for new gen VR.

Waiting few months for new card is always smart but then consider waiting also with new cpu and mobo and go for it all in the same time.

I wanted to wait for the current upgrades, but some weird behavior with my current motherboard (that I never could fix) has me wanting to just upgrade now. Plus chances are, I'd never be able to afford upgrading everything at once. I did want to ride out my 2600K for longer (it's such a wonderful CPU), but I figured screw it. Do it now while I have the extra funds.

 

It's tuff to decide when best to upgrade anything, because the next jump in tech is always right around the corner. At least for now, I'll have a jump on the current computing standards. And I'm relying on this rig to take into the next 6-8 years of gaming, with the occasional GPU upgrade of course.

Edited December 4, 2017 by Warpig

[Ribbon]

That is reasonable, btw i'm the last person that should talk about patience and waiting.

Go for the best you can get, in the end it is the cheapest solution!

That is what i learned from this gaming curse.

[dburne]

Rift is still top on my list!

Samsung oddysey have better specs (1440×1600p, improved tracking) and suposedly can go now with steamvr but not much games there is for it which i don't really care, what concern me how it will run on il2 or ED.

They say it's not hardware demanding which i don't get since it's up to game and 2×1440p must be demanding for hardware.

 

I doubt it would have improved tracking over a Rift or Vive. 

With my Rift I have about a 10 ft x 14 ft play area, and I get excellent tracking all the way around with two sensors.

 

And yes, VR is very hardware demanding. Some made for VR games like some of those on Oculus Home, are easier on the hardware, but flight and racing sims that have been ported to VR certainly are.

Edited December 4, 2017 by dburne

[chiliwili69]

 

 

I'm waiting to upgrade my GTX 770 2GB

 

I am curious to know how your new 8700K will perform with the  GTX770 in VR.

The good performance of your current GPU in FullHD doesn´t translate to good performance in VR. 

When you have the new system try to run the performance test to see how good the 770 is in VR.

[Warpig]

I am curious to know how your new 8700K will perform with the  GTX770 in VR.

The good performance of your current GPU in FullHD doesn´t translate to good performance in VR. 

When you have the new system try to run the performance test to see how good the 770 is in VR.

I would be happy to do that. But it will be quite some time before I can actually get the VR equipment.

[dburne]

I would be happy to do that. But it will be quite some time before I can actually get the VR equipment.

 

I would plan on updating GPU when you do, a 770 is below min recommend spec.

[chiliwili69]

 

 

I would be happy to do that. But it will be quite some time before I can actually get the VR equipment.

 

I didn´t know you still have to buy the VR device.

 

In case you want to just try VR for few days you can rent a Rift here:

 

http://www.virtualrealityrental.co/oculus-rift-rental/

 

The problem is that you will automatically buy one...   

[Warpig]

Oh wow, I didn't know one could rent this stuff.

[dburne]

Oh wow, I didn't know one could rent this stuff.

 

Not sure I would want to rent one and have a used cushion on the faceplate up against my face. Some folks sweat ya know lol.

[Warpig]

Not sure I would want to rent one and have a used cushion on the faceplate up against my face. Some folks sweat ya know lol.

Nah, nothing a little alcohol won't kill.

[katdog5]

Oh wow, I didn't know one could rent this stuff.

Why rent when you can buy and just return. that was my plan a few months ago. The thing is still strapped to my head

 

We have a similar setup:

 

High settings with a pc overclock and balanced settings with stock

 

Both great experiences

Edited December 5, 2017 by katdog5