LLv24_Veccu_VR Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Sharing this... https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/newly-restored-messerschmitt-bf109g-flies-test-pilot-shares-experience-m.html -veccu- 9
LLv24_Veccu_VR Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 nice info... "Wing loading is high, even for a WW2 fighter. Leading edge slats automatically drift out during increased angles of attack to mimic a larger wing. It works brilliantly. On paper, the Bf109 should not be able to stay with a Spitfire in a turn. In the real world, half of the German aces claimed they were always able to stay with Spitfires and Hurricanes in turns. How is this possible? The Bf109 accelerated stall behavior was far more benign than its competitors, allowing pilots to play at the edge of control without penalty. At any speed and G load, slight relaxation of the stick instantly returned the stalled wing to normal flight. Lesser aircraft could not risk flying at the edges of their superior theoretical performance without losing more control than the Bf109." 3
=EXPEND=Tripwire Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Great read, such an impressive plane.
=RvE=Windmills Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 nice info... "Wing loading is high, even for a WW2 fighter. Leading edge slats automatically drift out during increased angles of attack to mimic a larger wing. It works brilliantly. On paper, the Bf109 should not be able to stay with a Spitfire in a turn. In the real world, half of the German aces claimed they were always able to stay with Spitfires and Hurricanes in turns. How is this possible? The Bf109 accelerated stall behavior was far more benign than its competitors, allowing pilots to play at the edge of control without penalty. At any speed and G load, slight relaxation of the stick instantly returned the stalled wing to normal flight. Lesser aircraft could not risk flying at the edges of their superior theoretical performance without losing more control than the Bf109." Sounds exactly like what we have ingame.
Mac_Messer Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I` say the ingame G2 in a bit too stiff at too low speeds. How about the article : "Pilots are advised not to use trim to compensate." Wut?
69th_chuter Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I` say the ingame G2 in a bit too stiff at too low speeds. How about the article : "Pilots are advised not to use trim to compensate." Wut? It was found that if a pilot trimmed the nose up to pull out of a dive the aircraft would likely experience destructive G force as it did so, the reason being as the dive progresses down into thicker air and the aircraft slows the trim shifts toward nose up. Naturally, this advise wasn't always followed and using trim tentatively was credited by some pilots with saving their lives. On the other hand some pilots no doubt died using trim to pull out but had less to say about it than the survivors.
BM357_TinMan Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Watching the thing taxi briefly on the ground makes me think that the "unlocked tail wheel" affect in this sim might be a bit overdone.
VesseL Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 nice info... "Wing loading is high, even for a WW2 fighter. Leading edge slats automatically drift out during increased angles of attack to mimic a larger wing. It works brilliantly. On paper, the Bf109 should not be able to stay with a Spitfire in a turn. In the real world, half of the German aces claimed they were always able to stay with Spitfires and Hurricanes in turns. How is this possible? The Bf109 accelerated stall behavior was far more benign than its competitors, allowing pilots to play at the edge of control without penalty. At any speed and G load, slight relaxation of the stick instantly returned the stalled wing to normal flight. Lesser aircraft could not risk flying at the edges of their superior theoretical performance without losing more control than the Bf109." Because it was possible for half of the German aces in real life. This is a game and not real life. Its not far out, but especially G2 is bad at the moment. My 2 cents.
1_Robert_ Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) "The recipe for recreating this sound is to start with a Merlin. Put in a racing camshaft, jack up the compression, and then garnish with the shriek of 1000 tortured souls that is the DB605 supercharger. It is simply the most pure and sinister sound in the universe. Being attacked by something with this sound would make me curl up in the fetal position on the floor and cry like a little baby." Love it! Edited November 28, 2017 by rweaves6 1
Jade_Monkey Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 The sound in the first low pass, that's what I want in the game.
Jaws2002 Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) "Those who have witnessed the aircraft’s soul experience the same eerie feeling prompted by lines in “The Terminator” motion picture: “ It can’t be reasoned with. It can’t be bargained with. It doesn’t feel pity of remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.” ""Think of an armored Extra 300 with 1500 hp., or a Mako shark crossed with a stiletto, painted in shades of grey and black. The dark soul of this aircraft would turn any other paint scheme black in one flight. In comparison, shark tooth paint schemes of other fighters are merely aircraft codpieces for the poseurs within." This is sig material, right there. Love this guy. Love this guy. Edited November 28, 2017 by Jaws2002
CUJO_1970 Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Every modern pilot account of flying a 109 is just like this. Must be an incredible experience.
=EXPEND=CG_Justin Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 Awesome read! The last paragraph sums it all up for me! "Listen to the Daimler Benz engine. The recipe for recreating this sound is to start with a Merlin. Put in a racing camshaft, jack up the compression, and then garnish with the shriek of 1000 tortured souls that is the DB605 supercharger. It is simply the most pure and sinister sound in the universe. Being attacked by something with this sound would make me curl up in the fetal position on the floor and cry like a little baby. Any exposure to this instrument of war will permeate your soul and imprint itself there forever. It moves a person like nothing else. Non-aviation people who stumble upon it at an air show can be talkative and laughing around all the rest of the aircraft, but when they lay eyes on the 109, all go quiet, not knowing but feeling this unstoppable force that is the Bf109G. Witness the Bf109G. You will forever regard it with more reverence and respect than any other man made object."
CUJO_1970 Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 I gotta hand it to Daimler-Benz - that engine/supercharger sound is like nothing else. It's like engine-audio Nirvana.
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