yak-1b explain

[Flynco]

Hi today I have purchased the yak-1b and I would ask you

this plane have supercharger? and where I can find a manual flight?

 

bye

[III/JG53Frankyboy]

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25993-aircraft-flight-and-technical-specifications-and-operational/

[LukeFF]

1. It really helps to the read the operating notes for each plane that can be found on the briefing page inside the game.

It has the same operating parameters as the Yak-1 S.69.

[Flynco]

Ok thank I have already read, then supercharger are above 2300mt? and about the wheels brake work or not, I have setup left and right brake but seem nothing happened...

[Dakpilot]

Would suggest a view of Requiem's familiarisation videos (Air Combat Tutorials) in the manuals, tutorials and guides section, these can be of great help for idiosyncrasies of different aircraft types

In Yak and some other types brakes are applied with 'trigger' on the stick and differential pressure distributed by pedals

Separate mapping of 'Russian button' is needed

 

Cheers Dakpilot

Edited November 28, 2017 by Dakpilot

[bzc3lk]

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1940-lagg-3-wheel-brake-control/

 

 

http://www.simulatedaircombat.com/Luftwaffe/sites/default/files/Chuck%20Il-2%20Battle%20of%20Stalingrad%20Guide.pdf

 

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by bzc3lk

[Flynco]

Wooow many than to all, bye

[Finkeren]

About taxiing: Pretty much the only difference in handling between the s.69 and the s.127 is the way the tailwheel functions.

[Flynco]

[EAF_Starfire]

Can anyone explain how this aircraft can fly forever with a hit to the engine?

I just wonder!

 

My Sqd (EAF) are flying Axis this month and somehow the famed durability of the radial engine seems to be lacking.

Just one hit to the engine area and it stops like the famed glass jaw engine of the P-51 from "IL-2 1946"!

[Guest deleted@83466]

Can anyone explain how this aircraft can fly forever with a hit to the engine?

I just wonder!

 

My Sqd (EAF) are flying Axis this month and somehow the famed durability of the radial engine seems to be lacking.

Just one hit to the engine area and it stops like the famed glass jaw engine of the P-51 from "IL-2 1946"!

 

 

The Yak-1b does not have more durable or less durable an inline engine than anything else.  Depending on the severity of damage, the standard prodedure is to pull back on RPM's and throttle.  I wouldn't put too much credit to the accounts of Luftwaffe-only pilots that claim Russian inline engines are somehow special.  Radial engines like in the FW or La-5 radial engines, do seem a bit more durable, as the common wisdom is that radial engines are more durable in real life. 

Edited December 11, 2017 by Iceworm

[EAF_Starfire]

The Yak-1b does not have more durable or less durable an inline engine than anything else.  Depending on the severity of damage, the standard prodedure is to pull back on RPM's and throttle.  I wouldn't put too much credit to the accounts of Luftwaffe-only pilots that claim Russian inline engines are somehow special.  Radial engines like in the FW or La-5 radial engines, do seem a bit more durable, as the common wisdom is that radial engines are more durable in real life. 

 

1. With instant engine stop, pulling back or pushing forward is not an issue.

2. EAF flies Russian aircraft 80% of the time. This have nothing to due with virtual Luftwaffe pilots.

 

So the question still stands!

[Herne]

Depends how badly the engine is damaged. I've managed to get damaged FW 190's home with engine damage, after flying for 10 mins approx, and other times the engine dies after seconds. same with the LA 5, and any other aircraft for that matter.

Edited December 11, 2017 by =11=herne

[216th_Jordan]

Can anyone explain how this aircraft can fly forever with a hit to the engine?

I just wonder!

 

My Sqd (EAF) are flying Axis this month and somehow the famed durability of the radial engine seems to be lacking.

Just one hit to the engine area and it stops like the famed glass jaw engine of the P-51 from "IL-2 1946"!

It can't. Sorry to bust your bubble.

[Ribbon]

I'm 100% yak1 ser.69/127 pilot, it is my fav aircraft after yak-3 and 80% of time in il2 i fly that plane.

There is two engine damage situations for it;

-Minor hit in engine with engine damage indication and you can fly it forever on full power with decreased speed/performance as result.

-More severe engine damage when oil is leaking and engine will stop after few minutes (1-2min top).

 

In Fw190 engine will stop in second in 99% cases from single bullet shot (machinegun not cannon) and reducing throttle won't help (won't have time to reduce throttle since it stops instantly), same goes for it's wing root but i don't know it's structure so i won't go into that.

I must admit that to the Lufties and i don't want it to reduce my reward feeling when i shot them down.

We all love this game and "i am BoX fanboi" but with this i'll be honest.

I may be wrong and repeating situations in which Fw engine is being damaged but in two weeks of flying Fw190 i can only witness things i mentioned above.

[Ribbon]

I forgot to mention that comparisions and my observations of yak/fw190 are made by being damaged from AAA.

[216th_Jordan]

I forgot to mention that comparisions and my observations of yak/fw190 are made by being damaged from AAA.

How does it compare to the 109? Is the 109 more durable?

[Ribbon]

How does it compare to the 109? Is the 109 more durable?

I flew it once over enemy tank base and it also stoped instantly being shot by AAA, but i can't say for sure cos it was only one time situation, but in dogfight it can take damage to the wing and engine and keep flying, depending on situation and hit area sometime it can feel undestructable like tank.

By damaged area i mean if plane is being hit in area with small/thin surface and volume by cannon it is normal it will crack and fell off expecially on high speeds with high load.

Some situations i justify that for example yak have bigger wing root surface adding material to it and could sustain more damage, same goes for tail.

But again i'm unfamiliar with it's structure and wood material characteristics so i wouldn't bet on my claims.

[D3adCZE]

What I find funny, is that reds can damage 109s engine by shooting from dead 6 550m away, penetrating fuel tank armor, 300 liters of fuel, another fuel tank armor, pilots armored seat and without wounding the pilot. From my experience with Yaks and La5s on Berloga, I find the red fighters easy to fly, they are untouchable their high speed maneuverabilty is just amazing and they have great E retention.

 

By the way, are there any words to be heard on minengeschoß damage model rework? From what I heard IL2 BoX is unable to simulate the pressure increase in fuselage.

[216th_Jordan]

I don't have much flying time in the 190 but the 109 is not the dog it is described to be engine wise, on Berloga you see a ton of smoking 109s keeping up the fight several minutes. There might be something different with the 190 but examples with AAA are not very relyable if do not know what gun shot your plane.

[Ribbon]

What I find funny, is that reds can damage 109s engine by shooting from dead 6 550m away, penetrating fuel tank armor, 300 liters of fuel, another fuel tank armor, pilots armored seat and without wounding the pilot. From my experience with Yaks and La5s on Berloga, I find the red fighters easy to fly, they are untouchable their high speed maneuverabilty is just amazing and they have great E retention.

 

By the way, are there any words to be heard on minengeschoß damage model rework? From what I heard IL2 BoX is unable to simulate the pressure increase in fuselage.

That goes for yak too (engine damage hit) it must be angle shot.

Did you try yak on hight alt and compare it to 109, try that (it's performance and maneuveraility).

Seems to me some guys don't take altitude in performance evaluation.

[Lensman]

I don't have much flying time in the 190 but the 109 is not the dog it is described to be engine wise, on Berloga you see a ton of smoking 109s keeping up the fight several minutes. There might be something different with the 190 but examples with AAA are not very relyable if do not know what gun shot your plane.

I fly the bf 109 F4 mostly and the engine can take some damage and keep running for 10 to 15 minutes and other times it's failed after damage in 30 seconds, sometimes instantly. The damage model seems good to me ... it's not biased either way. I've occasionally taken wing damage and seen one wing come off at once or eventually bend and fail several minutes later. All good.

[Ribbon]

I don't have much flying time in the 190 but the 109 is not the dog it is described to be engine wise, on Berloga you see a ton of smoking 109s keeping up the fight several minutes. There might be something different with the 190 but examples with AAA are not very relyable if do not know what gun shot your plane.

That's why i said i wpuldn't bet on my claims, i don't know anything about those guns specifications, i just compare fast shooters and flak, in this case fast shooters which kill engine instantly (in fw)

[216th_Jordan]

That's why i said i wpuldn't bet on my claims, i don't know anything about those guns specifications, i just compare fast shooters and flak, in this case fast shooters which kill engine instantly (in fw)

Yeah no offence Soviet 61k AAA for example can take you down in one shot and soviet 25mm is also going to wreck you quickly. (61k: Irl they downed a plane all 900 rounds)

Edited December 11, 2017 by 216th_Jordan

[ShamrockOneFive]

I flew last night in a Bf109E-7 with a damaged engine from flak and it lasted at least 20-25 minutes before I was able to get to base, land, taxi and shut down. It's no different from flying the Yak-1 in the same situation.

 

Some folks expect the 109 to be somehow magical or the Russian aircraft to be extra crappy. I'm not sure which is the expectation.

[Herne]

I flew last night in a Bf109E-7 with a damaged engine from flak and it lasted at least 20-25 minutes before I was able to get to base, land, taxi and shut down. It's no different from flying the Yak-1 in the same situation.

 

Some folks expect the 109 to be somehow magical or the Russian aircraft to be extra crappy. I'm not sure which is the expectation.

 

that's impressive ! was that with black smoke ?

[ShamrockOneFive]

that's impressive ! was that with black smoke ?

 

Yessir. Was trailing the light black smoke. Not the thick stuff that means you have a fire

[Ribbon]

Yeah no offence Soviet 61k AAA for example can take you down in one shot and soviet 25mm is also going to wreck you quickly. (61k: Irl they downed a plane all 900 rounds)

That explains a lot!

Thanks for the info

Edited December 11, 2017 by EAF_Ribbon

[Mad_Mikhael]

I flew last night in a Bf109E-7 with a damaged engine from flak and it lasted at least 20-25 minutes before I was able to get to base, land, taxi and shut down. It's no different from flying the Yak-1 in the same situation.

 

Some folks expect the 109 to be somehow magical or the Russian aircraft to be extra crappy. I'm not sure which is the expectation.

Same happend to me, but with Friedrich and Gustav in previous TAW campaing. Got badly damaged, black smoke from engine, and managed to fly back (approx 10-15 minutes) and safely land on AF. Happend at least 3 times in approx 30 hours of flying 109 F and G. Of course many times engine died earlier.

Edited December 11, 2017 by =L/R=Mad_Mikhael

[ShamrockOneFive]

Sure, my engine has died plenty earlier too. When you get a damaged engine you start worrying that you won't make it. It doesn't matter if I'm flying a Yak-1, La-5, FW190, Bf109 or IL-2. Damage is bad and frequently you're not going to make it. The myth of the Russian aircraft flying home every time doesn't hold water. I took some light calibre machine gun hits in a La-5, a radial engine which is supposedly a little tougher, and in died on me almost instantly. Belly landing. Same thing with a FW190A-5 I was flying yesterday too... got hit by some flak and the engine was dead almost instantly.

 

And then there are all the times that I keep on flying. I was flying another FW190A-5 and an IL-2 Model 1943 hit me in the engine hard. It kept running so I dewinged him with my 20mms and flew home.

 

Damage is variable on what exactly is damaged.

[Finkeren]

In Fw190 engine will stop in second in 99% cases from single bullet shot (machinegun not cannon) and reducing throttle won't help (won't have time to reduce throttle since it stops instantly)

As someone who flies the Fw 190 a lot (pretty much my exclusive LW plane online) I will say that I don’t find this to be true at all. The Fw 190 is quite sturdy overall (though its performance suffers horribly from getting a few holes in its wings) and the BMW 801 is pretty darned solid. I very often receive an “engine damaged” warning from the technochat with no smoke from the engine, only a slight drop in power and no progressing damage. Also, when I get serious engine damage with oscillating MP I can actually slow down the excacerbation of the damage by going into continuous engine mode and I often make it home to base with a smoking engine.

 

Apart from the Shvetzov engines I find the BMW to cope best with damage out of all the engines in the sim.

Edited December 11, 2017 by Finkeren

[Ribbon]

As someone who flies the Fw 190 a lot (pretty much my exclusive LW plane online) I will say that I don’t find this to be true at all. The Fw 190 is quite sturdy overall (though its performance suffers horribly from getting a few holes in its wings) and the BMW 801 is pretty darned solid. I very often receive an “engine damaged” warning from the technochat with no smoke from the engine, only a slight drop in power and no progressing damage. Also, when I get serious engine damage with oscillating MP I can actually slow down the excacerbation of the damage by going into continuous engine mode and I often make it home to base with a smoking engine.

 

Apart from the Shvetzov engines I find the BMW to cope best with damage out of all the engines in the sim.

Than my luck sucks cos when i fly fw one shot from AAA in engine and it stops second later, every time.

May be i'm being hit in the same weak spot all the time, i don't know!

In yak with damaged engine without oil leak i get home every time.

[Finkeren]

Than my luck sucks cos when i fly fw one shot from AAA in engine and it stops second later, every time.

May be i'm being hit in the same weak spot all the time, i don't know!

In yak with damaged engine without oil leak i get home every time.

Flak is a different story. Usually when AAA hits you, it’s either a 37mm shell - which will take you out 9 out of 10 times no matter which plane you fly - or it is shrapnel from a nearby exploding heavy caliber shell, which means it is actually multiple hits in a small area.

[Ribbon]

Flak is a different story. Usually when AAA hits you, it’s either a 37mm shell - which will take you out 9 out of 10 times no matter which plane you fly - or it is shrapnel from a nearby exploding heavy caliber shell, which means it is actually multiple hits in a small area.

Yeah it's AAA i'm facing, actually moment ago i've been damaged by AAA and my engine was still running, my vertical stabilizer weren't so lucky!

[D3adCZE]

That goes for yak too (engine damage hit) it must be angle shot.

Did you try yak on hight alt and compare it to 109, try that (it's performance and maneuveraility).

Seems to me some guys don't take altitude in performance evaluation.

Why should I try Yaks and Las above 3.5 km, when my IL2s are on the deck? I am not discussing flight model, it seems pretty spot on. I am discussing damage model, where to me, it is much easier to down a red with 8mm Mausers than 20mm minengeschoß.

[ShamrockOneFive]

As someone who flies the Fw 190 a lot (pretty much my exclusive LW plane online) I will say that I don’t find this to be true at all. The Fw 190 is quite sturdy overall (though its performance suffers horribly from getting a few holes in its wings) and the BMW 801 is pretty darned solid. I very often receive an “engine damaged” warning from the technochat with no smoke from the engine, only a slight drop in power and no progressing damage. Also, when I get serious engine damage with oscillating MP I can actually slow down the excacerbation of the damage by going into continuous engine mode and I often make it home to base with a smoking engine.

 

Apart from the Shvetzov engines I find the BMW to cope best with damage out of all the engines in the sim.

 

Same. I've done a lot of low level with the FW190 and most of the time it can take a real beating all over the aircraft and keep going. It's what I expect from a FW190 and largely its what I've experienced.

 

Than my luck sucks cos when i fly fw one shot from AAA in engine and it stops second later, every time.

May be i'm being hit in the same weak spot all the time, i don't know!

In yak with damaged engine without oil leak i get home every time.

 

You must have terrible luck man

 

I've been hit a whole bunch of times in the 190 and assuming I back off running the engine hard it usually gets me back to base. Not always. A 37mm in there will end the engine immediately...

[Ribbon]

Same. I've done a lot of low level with the FW190 and most of the time it can take a real beating all over the aircraft and keep going. It's what I expect from a FW190 and largely its what I've experienced.

 

 

You must have terrible luck man

 

I've been hit a whole bunch of times in the 190 and assuming I back off running the engine hard it usually gets me back to base. Not always. A 37mm in there will end the engine immediately...

Yeah it must be it!

[Guest deleted@134347]

in DCS there's a damage log, i.e. it's a text log stating explicitly which part/component of the airframe, engine, electrical, hydraulics, etc was hit. Visually it all looks the same but the log helps determining the root cause of the poor aircraft performance.

 

I wish Il2 had the same. Then you'd have a better idea of why "one time in a band camp I got hit and flew for 25mins and another time for only 1 min".