A plane is missing from the late war game.

[hames123]

Where is the Hawker Typhoon? It is very important, it was the main ground attack plane of the Western Allies, outnumbering the P-47 and being more effective at ground attack(although the P-47 was better at dogfighting). Can you please add the Hawker Typhoon to the sim?

[VeryOldMan]

Where is the Hawker Typhoon? It is very important, it was the main ground attack plane of the Western Allies, outnumbering the P-47 and being more effective at ground attack(although the P-47 was better at dogfighting). Can you please add the Hawker Typhoon to the sim?

Why people think  there is no COST in producing something? READ the forums, you will see that if they could the developers would have added every single plane in existence at that time, but they cannot. They do not have a billion dollar budget.

 

The typhoon is a plane that likely someday we will see in game if the series continues to  do well enough..

[TP_Silk]

During the TeamSpeak event last weekend Jason said that the decision was close between the Tempest and the Typhoon, but that they chose the Tempest for a variety of reasons. He also raised the possibility (and only a possibility, nothing was promised) that they may later on work on a Typhoon as well and that it will be easier to do once the more advanced aircraft (the Tempest) is completed and part of the project.

 

I am another person that would love to the the Typhoon in the game along with the Mosquito at some point.

[Furni]

I to would like to see the Typhoon - just have to see what happens in the future, with any luck we will see have it flying in Bodnplatte. :O)

[Gambit21]

Where is the Hawker Typhoon? It is very important, it was the main ground attack plane of the Western Allies, outnumbering the P-47 and being more effective at ground attack(although the P-47 was better at dogfighting). Can you please add the Hawker Typhoon to the sim?

The Typhoon was a fantastic aircraft, but it was not a superior ground attack platform.

Forgetting that little piece of comedy on your part...we may get the Typhoon down the road...never know.

[bzc3lk]

I agree, a plane is missing. This Plane!

 

[Bullets]

Why when we are going to be having to fight against D9's and 262's would you want a Typhoon over a Tempest      I know people that fly red are used to having it hard but come on   

[hames123]

Why when we are going to be having to fight against D9's and 262's would you want a Typhoon over a Tempest I know people that fly red are used to having it hard but come on

There comes a time when one gets bored of hawking over German airfields in a Tespest, waiting for a ME 262 to start the take off or come back to land.

 

Besides, the Hawker Typhoon is legendary. It probably did more than any other allied piece of machinery to gain victory in the West, aside from the Sherman and various artillery pieces. It constantly attacked German supply convoys and units as they moved, causing huge losses and much hassle.

Edited November 23, 2017 by hames123

[EAF19_Marsh]

There comes a time when one gets bored of hawking over German airfields in a Tespest, waiting for a ME 262 to start the take off or come back to land.

 

 

 

The murderous flak may wake you up...

 

I would vote for Mossie over Tiffie, given we have the world's best fighter in the Tempest V

[Gambit21]

Besides, the Hawker Typhoon is legendary. It probably did more than any other allied piece of machinery to gain victory in the West, aside from the Sherman and various artillery pieces. It constantly attacked German supply convoys and units as they moved, causing huge losses and much hassle.

 

You're confused about a few things...easily assuaged by reading a few more books.

The right decision was made in this regard.

[BlitzPig_EL]

You're confused about a few things...easily assuaged by reading a few more books.

The right decision was made in this regard.

 Indeed...

 

How are those "detachable" tail sections doing for you?

[Finkeren]

Besides, the Hawker Typhoon is legendary. It probably did more than any other allied piece of machinery to gain victory in the West, aside from the Sherman and various artillery pieces.

Que?

 

T-34? PPSh-41? B-24? Lancaster? IL-2?

 

Honestly: the right answer to that question is probably the LL Studebaker trucks supplied to the USSR, which made the Red Army a mobile force.

[BraveSirRobin]

Trucks and Liberty ships

[IckyATLAS]

I wonder how much is the dev budget for an airplane. I suppose some are more complex and thus expensive and others less. It depends also on the country and its hourly cost for a developer.

 

Let me try a guess 500'000 Euro for a mid level complexity complete airplane design from scratch with sounds, historical research, skins, fms, everything.

 

Jason what do you think. Am I very far from reality?

[Wulf]

The murderous flak may wake you up...

 

I would vote for Mossie over Tiffie, given we have the world's best fighter in the Tempest V

 

 

I dearly love the Tempest but world's best (WW 2) fighter might be a bit of a stretch.   Certainly one of the best if not the best (Spit Mk 12??) as far as low/medium alt fighters are concerned but it really ran out of puff at high altitude.  Way up there it would have struggled against the likes of a D9 or a Spit 14.

[Rjel]

There comes a time when one gets bored of hawking over German airfields in a Tespest, waiting for a ME 262 to start the take off or come back to land.

 

Besides, the Hawker Typhoon is legendary. It probably did more than any other allied piece of machinery to gain victory in the West, aside from the Sherman and various artillery pieces. It constantly attacked German supply convoys and units as they moved, causing huge losses and much hassle.

Looks like we have another contender for "the plane that won the war".

 

Thinking this over more, can any one piece of equipment, ship or plane be considered more important than another? Typhoons couldn't have done what they did without air superiority. They would've been meat on the table if hordes of German fighters were prowling around. Right plane for a tough job but it didn't with the battle after D-Day on its own. 

Edited November 24, 2017 by Rjel

[Gambit21]

Looks like we have another contender for "the plane that won the war".

 

We certainly have another contender for something, although 'planes that won the war' wasn't the first thing that came to mind after reading his post.

[Danziger]

Yes the B17 is missing for some reason. Baffling as it was the best bomber of the whole war. It should be easy to make after all it isn't rocket surgery

[ShamrockOneFive]

I do hope for a Typhoon sometime. That would be wonderful to see... but IMHO the Tempest V was the right decision.

[Finkeren]

Yes the B17 is missing for some reason. Baffling as it was the best bomber of the whole war. It should be easy to make after all it isn't rocket surgery

Missed the sarcasm for a moment and was just about to write an angry reply

[Mad_Mikhael]

Yeah, a Mosquito woodbe nice. 

 

 

Hahahahah.. haha.. ha....

[EAF19_Marsh]

I dearly love the Tempest but world's best (WW 2) fighter might be a bit of a stretch.   Certainly one of the best if not the best (Spit Mk 12??) as far as low/medium alt fighters are concerned but it really ran out of puff at high altitude.  Way up there it would have struggled against the likes of a D9 or a Spit 14.

 

 

Tongue was somewhat in-cheek, old chap

[Dutchvdm]

Hi Guys,

 

Just out of pure interest and understanding. Why the "extra" love for the Typhoon over Tempest? I always thought (And i can be extremely wrong here...) that the Typhoon was the predecessor of the Tempest, and that the Typhoon had a bit of a troubling start. is that correct?

 

Grt M

[EAF19_Marsh]

Just out of pure interest and understanding. Why the "extra" love for the Typhoon over Tempest? I always thought (And i can be extremely wrong here...) that the Typhoon was the predecessor of the Tempest, and that the Typhoon had a bit of a troubling start. is that correct?

 

 

 

Tiffie did more of the 'hard work' and was present in far larger numbers. After a tricky start it generally proved capable and reliable, though the Sabre engine was always temperamental.

 

Personally I'd take a Tempest and day of the week

[Royal_Flight]

Indeed...

 

How are those "detachable" tail sections doing for you?

If BoBo was set in 1942 you might have a point.

 

We certainly have another contender for something, although 'planes that won the war' wasn't the first thing that came to mind after reading his post.

What was it that came to mind, out of idle curiosity?

 

Yeah, a Mosquito woodbe nice.

 

Hahahahah.. haha.. ha....

Heh.

 

Hi Guys,

 

Just out of pure interest and understanding. Why the "extra" love for the Typhoon over Tempest? I always thought (And i can be extremely wrong here...) that the Typhoon was the predecessor of the Tempest, and that the Typhoon had a bit of a troubling start. is that correct?

 

Grt M

I think because the Typhoon is such an iconic aircraft for the mid-to-late war ground-attack role. The Tempest is also a very cool aircraft but is an excellent fighter among excellent late-war British designs.

Earlier in the war the British government decided to limit production to five main types to mitigate against the logistical difficulties of having multiple platforms in inventory, as well as to concentrate aircraft production - Spitfire, Hurricane and some bomber types.

So the Tempest wasn't as prolific as the Spitfire as a fighter but the Typhoon solely filled its own ground-attack niche.

 

The Tempest sort of became what the Typhoon had been intended to be. The Typhoon was Hawker's design to replace the Hurricane but like the early Mustang wasn't much good at altitude. However it was the first RAF aircraft capable of catching the Fw 190 when the latter started doing low-level 'tip and run' raids across the Channel.

 

The early Typhoons weren't brilliant, the engines were prone to seizing and the canopy had a car door similar to the P-39. And elevator flutter at speed meant that the tails were prone to being torn off until the rear fuselage was strengthened.

 

The low-level performance plus engine power, and the RAF's need for a ground attack aircraft led to the decision to arm the Typhoon with first two 500lb and then 1000lb bombs and later rockets, and it served with distinction in Western Europe before and after D-Day.

 

The Tempest was a development of the Typhoon with a redesigned and much thinner wing and wasoptimised as a high-speed interceptor. So the Tempest in 1944 ended up doing what the Typhoon had been built for in 1941, by which point the Typhoon had overcome its major issues and had carved out its own space.

 

I'm happy with the Tempest but I wouldn't say no to a Typhoon at all.

 

(Also hoping that someday I might get a Sea Fury, if we get to Korea... to go along with the Firefly and Seafire LF mk III, XV or mk 46 that I hope to have by then).

Edited November 24, 2017 by Royal_Flight

[Lusekofte]

Typhoon did groundpounding and Tempest did not, it could but didn´t . I agree if I had the choice I would rather have the Typhoon, because in this pack you got the P 51 , Spit and P 47 and P 38 all very good fighters

[Wulf]

Tongue was somewhat in-cheek, old chap

 

 

Oops ... sorry bro.  Essentially I'm about 3 brain cells North of full retardo - on a good day.

[Stig]

I agree if I had the choice I would rather have the Typhoon, because in this pack you got the P 51 , Spit and P 47 and P 38 all very good fighters

 

 

Excepting maybe the Spit, all very good ground pounders too  

[Yakdriver]

Typhoon lover here as well.
But eh. 2x1000 pounds is fine with me.
Till DDay rolls around.

[Bullets]

Idk guys I know I will be using it for ground pounding, only thing those 4x hispanos wont be able to destroy instantly is armor, 

[Gambit21]

Idk guys I know I will be using it for ground pounding, only thing those 4x hispanos wont be able to destroy instantly is armor, 

That's going to be fun - no doubt.

Don't be fooled though - in real life the 8 x .50's of the Jug couldn't be beat for sheer rate of fire, volume of lead down range and energy imparted to the target.

 

I'll spend my fair share of time in the Tempest for sure though - if nothing else cannons are fun to shoot.

[Bullets]

That's going to be fun - no doubt.

Don't be fooled though - in real life the 8 x .50's of the Jug couldn't be beat for sheer rate of fire, volume of lead down range and energy imparted to the target.

 

I'll spend my fair share of time in the Tempest for sure though - if nothing else cannons are fun to shoot.

 

I would feel more safe in a Tempest I think, with the ability to fight back down low if I am engaged while attacking my target. Can switch mid flight from ground pounding to lufty pounding   

[Gambit21]

I would feel more safe in a Tempest I think, with the ability to fight back down low if I am engaged while attacking my target. Can switch mid flight from ground pounding to lufty pounding   

 

 

It sure is a beautiful aircraft.

After the job they did with the Spit, I'm looking forward to it.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Typhoon did groundpounding and Tempest did not, it could but didn´t . I agree if I had the choice I would rather have the Typhoon, because in this pack you got the P 51 , Spit and P 47 and P 38 all very good fighters

Tempests did drop 500lb bombs operationally in support of ground ops. I was just reading about Tempest 2nd TAF strafing ops against artillery emplacements during Market Garden as well. It wasn't dedicated to role the way the Typhoon squadrons were but I wouldn't say that it didn't.

[Dutchvdm]

Thanks for the input guys. Explains a lot.

 

Grt M

Edited November 25, 2017 by I./ZG1_Martijnvdm

[150GCT_Veltro]

We need to forget now about Bondenplatte. We still are waiting for G6 and La-5FN, and Kuban official release.

 

There several missed aircrafts in the Bondenplatte list, Typhoon for sur but also G10. 

 

DLC candidate

BF-109G-10

Hawker Typhoon

[IVJG4-Knight]

I want a spit mk 14 and a 410 for us waffles.

Edited November 25, 2017 by IVJG4-Knight

[Bullets]

We need to forget now about Bondenplatte. We still are waiting for G6 and La-5FN, and Kuban official release.

 

There several missed aircrafts in the Bondenplatte list, Typhoon for sur but also G10. 

 

DLC candidate

BF-109G-10

Hawker Typhoon

 

ANOTHER 109 is the last thing we need    

[150GCT_Veltro]

G10 is like G6, a MUST.

[BOO]

Yes the B17 is missing for some reason. Baffling as it was the best bomber of the whole war. It should be easy to make after all it isn't rocket surgery

 

Best bomber of the whole war called B17 you mean?