Where to aim with bombs & Rocket question.

[Rigsby]

I have two questions the first been how do I aim with the bombs? I have tried using the gun sight and diving, but I'm not entirely sure if that's what you are suppose to do. The other question I have is do the rockets fire with the same joystick button as the bombs? It's just I don't seem to see a selection in the controls to just fire Rockets. Thanks!

[Finkeren]

As for rockets, it very much depends on the fuse distance you set before the mission, and the jury is still out on what's the best angle to use and where to put the target in the crosshairs.

 

As for bombing, it's really something that comes with practice on planes with no bombsight and poor downwards FOV. If you've got expeirence in fighter-bombers in the old IL-2 I think you'll feel right at home - I certainly did and hit my target squarely on my very first attempt in the Bf 109 - more so than can be said for the rockets, I just can't hit the broad side of a barn with those things.

 

If you're new to fighter bombing techniques try starting by practicing dive bombing. Fly at an altitude of around 2 km right above the target, cut throttle (remember to close the radiators) and dive directly at the target at an angle steeper than 70^o, the closer to 90^o the better. Release bombs with your sight set slightly higher than the target (the shallower the angle, the more you have to offset) at an altitude high enough to allow you to pull out (500m should be enough if you keep your airspeed below 500 km/h) Once you can reliably hit in dive bombing, you can experiment with shallower angles at different speeds until you get a feel for it, and soon you can pretty much level bomb at low altitude without even having the target in sight.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Finkeren

[Rigsby]

@Finkeren - Thanks for the advice, but can you tell me if you have a selection for Rockets in your control setting? I have one for bombs, but I don't see one for Rockets. Thanks again!

[Fifi]

Can't wait to try those rockets toward bombers!  ....cause i currently hardly hit anything with them, except the scenary!

[Finkeren]

You chose them the same way as you do bombs in the loadout menu.

 

Keep in mind that only the LaGG can carry rockets.

[Rigsby]

I'm not sure I am going to like having to unlock these weapons when the full retail version comes out. Not going to very realistic if you don't have bombs from the of is it? I mean, didn't these planes have bombs early in the war?

[Finkeren]

Well the whole unlockables issue is another matter. Wether you like it or not, it's going to be there, and even though I'm not exactly a fan of the idea, I can certainly live with it. For a dedicated player it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to unlock the most important ones.

[CreepiJim]

I found it to be quite easy glide bombing with the Bf.

 

I fly towards the target and then dive to about 200m and continue parallel to the ground, as soon as the target leaves my gunsight I drop. Works quite well and I managed to bomb all trucks in one attempt lining them up in my direction of flight.

 

However, I mostly play dive bombers and that might help to estimate the speed and release point. I don't look at speed or alt to be honest, but it works everytime.

[FlatSpinMan]

In the 109, there are only bombs.

In the LaGG there bombs and rockets. The rockets come with 3 options. 300m convergence, 500m convergence, and 1000m convergence.

Just mousewheel down or else click on the small arrow in teh weapons box to reveal all options.

 

I've tried rockets 5 times now and can't hit a goddamned thing. Plus I always fly into a tree and die (yay for tree collision models, eh?).

I've read someone here, maybe 38th Tatareko?, suggesting to aim a couple of notches down on the reticule with rockets. certainly when I think I have the crosshairs squarely on target, my rockets overshoot.

[=38=Tatarenko]

I've tried rockets 5 times now and can't hit a goddamned thing. Plus I always fly into a tree and die (yay for tree collision models, eh?).

I've read someone here, maybe 38th Tatareko?, suggesting to aim a couple of notches down on the reticule with rockets. certainly when I think I have the crosshairs squarely on target, my rockets overshoot.

For clarity, I use the second notch up from the crosshairs as my aiming point. Seems to work.

[FlatSpinMan]

Ah. UP. I see. I'll give it a try.

[FlatSpinMan]

Sorry - I made another mistake in my earlier post. I wrote 300m, 500m, 1000m convergence (ie the point at which the rockets intersect) but it is actually the fuse length. Try it before you take off. The rockets explode at differing distances based on your selection.

[=38=Tatarenko]

Yes that is for attacking bombers and disrupting their formations before you close in with guns. Useless for ground targets.

[CreepiJim]

Since I only managed to blew up myself trying to figure out if the bomb selector actually works...can you select which bombs you drop per button press? single or quad (for the Bf109). And I assume the selector for glide and dive mode is non functional at the moment?

[6high]

Yes that is for attacking bombers and disrupting their formations before you close in with guns. Useless for ground targets.

That reminds me of quite a few missions in the old OnlineWar days of IL2......fly that Ju88 or Heinkel towards target, navigate for nearly an hour, just to be blasted into Nirvana by some pesky little Rata with it`s damned Rockets

Seems like we`re gonna see a revival.

Must sound masochistic, but i`m really looking forward to it

[=38=Tatarenko]

Ah. UP. I see. I'll give it a try.

That's if you are doing sniper rockets against a particular target. If you are plastering an area target from a long way away (and not really hoping to hit anything!) you can put the crosshairs on and let fly. But you'd have to have a lot of tightly parked targets to have much chance of getting a hit from that range.

[Jaws2002]

I blew the 109 to bits with the rockets, but I couldn't kill a tank yet with those. I killed the Stug with the guns few times, but with rockets not yet.  The trucks are a lot easier to kill and I got a few with  rockets. The lack of trim makes it hard to use them in dive. The rockets have 300meters convergence and you can't change it. It's important to shoot at that range so they hit in the center.

 

Bombs are easy.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Jaws2002

[HansHansen]

My strategy is to basically attack in a dive with 10°-30° (I often don't have the patience to climb for a 90° dive) and drop the bombs as low as possible over the target. Just had a direct hit with th SC250 on the KV1, it even blew up before the bomb exploded :D

[ISIDA]

Hello everyone!
Here are a few prompts how you can hit the target.
Step 1.
Before the mission starts, in the "realism" settings. Choose a (look at screenshot)


Step 2.
You will see the yellow marker (ring). This is bombsight.

 
Step 3.
You need to combine the yellow ring and the icon of the target.

Step 4.
Bomb away 


Step 5. The end (for him)

 
Good luck!

[FlatSpinMan]

The rockets have 300meters convergence and you can't change it.

 

Actually it turns out you can, though I'd missed it initially. Scroll down with the mouse wheel, or click the arrow in the right corner of the weapons box. It's tricky as some options aren't yet selectable so you don't know what will work.

[=38=Tatarenko]

Actually it turns out you can, though I'd missed it initially. Scroll down with the mouse wheel, or click the arrow in the right corner of the weapons box. It's tricky as some options aren't yet selectable so you don't know what will work.

Actually you can't. Those are airburst fuse ranges used for attacking bomber formations.

[Jaws2002]

Yes. that's the fuse. I used the rockets with 300m fuse for air to air.  that 109 turned to confetti .

[=38=Tatarenko]

good job!

[Rigsby]

Hello everyone!

Here are a few prompts how you can hit the target.

Step 1.

Before the mission starts, in the "realism" settings. Choose a (look at screenshot)

Step_1.png

 

Step 2.

You will see the yellow marker (ring). This is bombsight.

Step_2.png

 

Step 3.

You need to combine the yellow ring and the icon of the target.

 

Step 4.

Bomb away 

Step_4.png

 

Step 5. The end (for him)

Step_5_1.pngStep_5_2.pngStep_5_3.pngStep_5_4.png

 

Good luck!

 

But isn't that cheating just a little bit 

[Stupsi]

But isn't that cheating just a little bit 

Yes, but with it you can learn easy how to hit with bombs without cheating

[LukeFF]

Since I only managed to blew up myself trying to figure out if the bomb selector actually works...can you select which bombs you drop per button press? single or quad (for the Bf109). And I assume the selector for glide and dive mode is non functional at the moment?

 

Not yet, but I get the feeling that's what the "toggle bomb throw mode" option will be for. I fiddled with it to see if it does anything right now, but it doesn't.

[ll./JG77_JadeBandit]

As for rockets, it very much depends on the fuse distance you set before the mission, and the jury is still out on what's the best angle to use and where to put the target in the crosshairs.

 

As for bombing, it's really something that comes with practice on planes with no bombsight and poor downwards FOV. If you've got expeirence in fighter-bombers in the old IL-2 I think you'll feel right at home - I certainly did and hit my target squarely on my very first attempt in the Bf 109 - more so than can be said for the rockets, I just can't hit the broad side of a barn with those things.

 

If you're new to fighter bombing techniques try starting by practicing dive bombing. Fly at an altitude of around 2 km right above the target, cut throttle (remember to close the radiators) and dive directly at the target at an angle steeper than 70^o, the closer to 90^o the better. Release bombs with your sight set slightly higher than the target (the shallower the angle, the more you have to offset) at an altitude high enough to allow you to pull out (500m should be enough if you keep your airspeed below 500 km/h) Once you can reliably hit in dive bombing, you can experiment with shallower angles at different speeds until you get a feel for it, and soon you can pretty much level bomb at low altitude without even having the target in sight.

 

 

I just hit my first group targets, a direct hit with the 250kg, thank you for posting these tips, they really helped me out a lot.