What do we know about the demo?

[56RAF_Roblex]

I cannot find any info other than the initial announcement,

 

Are they offering a free demo with two planes to try out?   If so what would they be?  Two mediocre but matched fighters like a 109 E7 & I-16 or maybe two bombers?     I cannot see how it would works as if, for example,  you allowed people to have the I-16 & E7 free then they would only find them useful in early war servers and if they tried them in a server that allows all aircraft  then they would hopelessly outclassed and would be put off.   Perhaps the demo is just one SP mission and no MP ability?  That might make sense or maybe 1C would set up a server just for people playing the demo to try it out.

 

Anyone know anything useful?

[[APAF]VR_Spartan85]

I think it will be more like the Lagg and 109 when we all had the Alpha... to this day the Lagg is my go to all round air-to-air and air-to-ground..

I fewl The i-16 would be quite difficult and lackluster for someone new trying the sim. .. although aerobatic, it's gun's. ..

 

They should have access to all servers, but I think mostly the main populated ones seeing as we don't have a strict dedicated il2 server.. it's either WoL, TAW, random expert, or Finnish virtual...

Then DED normal, but I myself never go on normal servers.

 

I hope a lot of people jump on board when the time comes.

[BeastyBaiter]

My guess is LaGG-3 and Bf-109G2 for the following reasons:

1) RoF's 2 free planes were part of the original plane pack

2) RoF's 2 free planes were relatively unpopular by the time they were free

3) RoF's 2 free planes were from the middle of the time period represented and so fit most scenarios

4) RoF's 2 free planes were relatively easy to fly

5) I could replace RoF with BoS and all 4 above statements would still be true

[Field-Ops]

My guess is LaGG-3 and Bf-109G2 for the following reasons:

1) RoF's 2 free planes were part of the original plane pack

2) RoF's 2 free planes were relatively unpopular by the time they were free

3) RoF's 2 free planes were from the middle of the time period represented and so fit most scenarios

4) RoF's 2 free planes were relatively easy to fly

5) I could replace RoF with BoS and all 4 above statements would still be true

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This

 

Also The demo might cover more than just planes. Seeing as how the title is switching to having ALL content made by this studio to go into one engine. The Current T34 and Panzer III might be included in the demo. We might also see thje planes from RoF's free component be included in this demo.

 

SO. Basically two machines per product line is my guess.

[Mesha44]

The name of the game is Il-2 so maybe the 41 or 42 model. The are easy to fly and you get to do ground attack. But to get to the fighter you have to buy something.

 

What I would really like to see is the Po-2 with some basic flight tutorials.

[Lensman]

I heard it'll be the Mosquito and the Tempest but they'll only be available in the demo ...

[[CPT]CptJackSparrow]

How do you keep people from being ruffians in MP when they have a endless supply of throw away email addresses and a free demo to download.

 

Lock them in a demo only server?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Is it possible the free part would be entirely new content, maybe related to Tank Crew? 

 

Perhaps the developers would want to avoid offending paying customers. If someone bought Stalingrad, for example, they probably would not be pleased if the map + two aircraft were released for free when they had already payed a significant amount. 

 

However, this likely wouldn't be a big deal for most, especially if the transition to free demo was well-documented and did not take anyone by surprise.

Edited November 19, 2017 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[BeastyBaiter]

How do you keep people from being ruffians in MP when they have a endless supply of throw away email addresses and a free demo to download.

 

Lock them in a demo only server?

 

I don't recall it ever being an issue with RoF. Normally those types hop into gunner positions and shoot down their own plane, but that's what crew lock is for.

[Feathered_IV]

If it were me making the decision and I was trying to maximize sales, I’d have just the Sturmovik flyable in the demo. It is enough to get a good taste of the game and it’s environment, and also just enough to leave you wanting more.

[Lensman]

If it were me making the decision and I was trying to maximize sales, I’d have just the Sturmovik flyable in the demo. It is enough to get a good taste of the game and it’s environment, and also just enough to leave you wanting more.

I'd suggest a bf 109 or equivalent Soviet fighter with one AI opponent and some ground targets. The only way to attract interest is air to air combat and an IL-2 won't cut it.

[Rjel]

No I agree with Feathered. I think the game's namesake is the logical choice. It's an easy plane to fly and the thought is to give a prospective customer a taste of the sim. It's hard to imagine very many who try will have never flown a sim before.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I would very much hope that any Demo does not allow players to get into MP servers. 

 

In ROF, the effect of "demo" players in the MP servers I think was overall detrimental to other players, even if it might have brought in a few more players.  Even just the other day, I went into a server, and there were more than one overheating Albatroses shooting up friendlies, and I'm willing to bet that those were people who wouldn't have been there if they had to pay up front.  I'm all for a demo, I just don't think those people ought to be able to do MP.

[216th_Jordan]

Maybe Multiplayer servers could be allowed to choose of they accept demo players or not.

[Dakpilot]

Allow spectate only in MP normal servers to get a look-see and a taste.

There certainly was a lot of concern/grief at RoF MP when free demo was introduced, a free demo only needs to give a feel and just enough experience to want more

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I agree that the Il-2 (probably 1943 model) should be the flyable aircraft because it is in the game's name. Of course, the included demo mission(s) should feature the Ju-87 and Ju-52 as easy targets to give players a taste of air combat as well as ground attack.

 

For MP, servers should be able to decide. If the general behaviour is bad, it can be easily switched off. Hopefully the occasional trolls in their slow Sturmoviks will not be able to catch too many friendlies. 

[Jade_Monkey]

From what I recall from the Q&A, Jason said it would be one plane and with limited features.

 

I interpreted that as not even having MP, just a map to get a sense of the FM and the game details.

It would be wise not to give trolls a way to ruin MP servers like Iceworm pointed out.

[TP_Silk]

From what I recall from the Q&A, Jason said it would be one plane and with limited features.

 

I interpreted that as not even having MP, just a map to get a sense of the FM and the game details.

It would be wise not to give trolls a way to ruin MP servers like Iceworm pointed out.

This was my understanding of what Jason said as well

[Herne]

I don't really see a point in having a demo. YT vid content for BoX plentiful as it is, will explode with the career mode. Anyone interested in flight sims and combat will easily be able to get the gist of how great it looks, and a sense of how it plays.

The only possible benefit, would be it might raise the profile on steam if more people are downloading the trial, but if those people are coming from WT, expecting some 3rd person arcade action, then negative reviews could flow, because they can only play with two planes, keep blowing their engines etc etc.

 

Anyone searching for a good flight sim, is likely to stumble across BoX and the game will sell it self.

[DD_Crash]

one reason would be to see how their computer would handle it

Edited November 22, 2017 by DD_Crash

[Art-J]

I check out a lot of YT vids planning my very first purchase of BoX franchise (will probably be BoK), but most of them present aspects I'm completely not interested in (multiplayer, while I'm offliner only), or planes I'm not instrested in (I'm looking forward to PTO planes only, so P-40, P-39, Spit and A20 now, plus some BoBP planes later). They also don't touch on things like GUI, mission building, controllers setup, and obviously, can't tell me how well my PC will handle the title. At the same time, this sim is quite expensive, so I have to make purchasing decisions carefully.

 

A demo announcement in the times when game demos are extinct species, is a godsend and I'm very excited to get my hands on it when it comes.

[J2_Trupobaw]

YT vids won't tell you how realistic or immersive flight physics is. Or how do the planes handle. You need to get stick in hand and try for yourself.