MrNoice Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Hello Guys, I just want to ask you what PC Hardware you guys are playing with because there are so much people saying they have bad performance or something you know ? I think in 2017 everybody should have a 64bit System... atleast 8gb of ram and a 4gb vram graphics card because they are quite cheap ... or Iam wrong with that approach ? what do you guys think ? because I know some people cant afford good pc hardware but the things I mentiont are not that expensive.. Im asking just for fun... many game devs have to consider guys with low end computers and that will most of the time decrease (even with ultra settings) the quality and festures like more objects render distance etc... any thoughts? Edited October 14, 2017 by Luftwolf
Tone71 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Details in sig. Frames rarely drop below 60, with everything on Ultra.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 i5 7400, GTX 1050Ti, 8GB RAM I locked frames to 60 on high settings but without that I get between 80 and 120 FPS.
MrNoice Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) nice. Im in a struggle because I always play with 1080p with 144hz but want to upgrade to 1440p or 2160p but Ive tried already to lock the game to 120 100 80 and 60hz (fps) but I cant play with that anymore If I went down from 144fps/hz it looks bad for me like 30fps (: and I dont think I will get 144fps in 2k or 4k resolution ^^ without one graphics Card Edited October 14, 2017 by Luftwolf
dburne Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 My specs are in my sig. I built this system in Dec of 2013, only updating graphics cards since then. I get excellent performance in this sim, even in VR. They seem to have struck a great balance in performance and quality to allow this sim to run very well.
13Nrv Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Details in sig . + 27' iiyama 1920X1080 60hz Ingame Ultra , no HDR cos i dont like the effect , AAX4, landscape X3 Shadow high . Always above 60 fps , , except on ground sometimes anyway always fluid . Edited October 14, 2017 by 13Nrv
Yakdriver Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 I7 7700k@4,7 32GB Memory, M.2 based Win10home and two SSD´s for Games and Storage. An Rx580 8GBVideocardBuilt in the beginning of Summer i chose solid stuff over the latest and greatest.2560x1440 in Fulscreen on Ultra; 30FPS locked and 60-70° on the GPU.Happy Camper.
curiousGamblerr Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 I build my rig this past December: Intel i7 6700K 4.0GHz CPU w/ Corsair H100i v2 Liquid Cooler 32GB Ripjaws V RAM GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT Video Card For shits and giggles the primary drive is a 256GB M.2 SSD (contains the OS and IL2) with all other files and games on a regular 1TB 2.5" SSD Along with that I've got MFGs, Gunfighter Pro and an my old X-55 throttle. Smooth doesn't begin to describe the experience. With everything maxed to the max I'm usually in the 140FPS ballpark, but up high and other situations routinely put me in the low to mid 200s. Monitor is 27" @ 144Hz so of course some of those frames are wasted, but I've never had stutter or tearing problems so I haven't fiddled with FPS caps or locks or anything.
BuzzU Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) I never talk about it, but since you asked and can get some info from it. i7 7700k @ 4.7 ....32g memory....1060g..SSD..Win10pro 64b monitor is only 1920x1080 so I average around 160fps on the Ultra settings 8xAA 1600x AF. It runs BMS and DCS smooth with high fps. Race sims the same way. 250fps in iRacing. It's an ABS built system and i'm happy with it. I was going to upgrade the GPU, but I haven't found a need yet. Maybe when I go to a higher res monitor i'll need to. Edited October 14, 2017 by BuzzU
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Core i5 6600 (3.3GHz), 8GB DDR4, GTX 960 (2GB), 2x EVO 850 SSD, 1xWD Blue 1TB and put it all into a Fractal Design Define r5 ATX chassis. Built it myself about a year and a half ago.
CanadaOne Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Built my own rig this summer. i5-6500 GTX 950 8GB DDR4 2400 SSD Samsung Evo 850 Corsair case With the new graphics improvements mentions in DD 175, and my luist for eye candy, I am right on the edge of ordering a GTX 1060. Maybe today. Still debating whether 3GB or 6GB. ($65 difference.)
Guest deleted@30725 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Built my own rig this summer. i5-6500 GTX 950 8GB DDR4 2400 SSD Samsung Evo 850 Corsair case With the new graphics improvements mentions in DD 175, and my luist for eye candy, I am right on the edge of ordering a GTX 1060. Maybe today. Still debating whether 3GB or 6GB. ($65 difference.) Get the 6GB, modern games will thank you.
CanadaOne Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Get the 6GB, modern games will thank you. I appreciate the feedback. BOX (99%) and DCS (1%) are the only games I play. How the card works in BOX is my only criteria. But I'm sure you are right.
ZachariasX Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 I appreciate the feedback. BOX (99%) and DCS (1%) are the only games I play. How the card works in BOX is my only criteria. But I'm sure you are right. DCS will thank you too for 6 GB. 1
CanadaOne Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Hello Guys, I just want to ask you what PC Hardware you guys are playing with because there are so much people saying they have bad performance or something you know ? I think in 2017 everybody should have a 64bit System... atleast 8gb of ram and a 4gb vram graphics card because they are quite cheap ... or Iam wrong with that approach ? what do you guys think ? because I know some people cant afford good pc hardware but the things I mentiont are not that expensive.. Im asking just for fun... many game devs have to consider guys with low end computers and that will most of the time decrease (even with ultra settings) the quality and festures like more objects render distance etc... any thoughts? According to the Steam hardware survey, which apparently is something (some) developers look at when thinking about specs for their games, this is the breakdown of users' video card RAM: 1 & 2GB = total 55% 4GB = 15% 6GB & 8GB = total 10% Interesting.
pilotpierre Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Details in sig. I play Ultra with FPS limited to 60 on 1920 x 1280 monitor with very smooth play.
Ribbon Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Everything on ultra and maxed settings and i get 85-144fps. I7 6700k stock speed, 16Gb ram 2400mhz, gtx1070, 2k 1440p 144Hz asus monitor, ssd. I think sim is very well optimized!
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Built my own rig this summer. i5-6500 GTX 950 8GB DDR4 2400 SSD Samsung Evo 850 Corsair case With the new graphics improvements mentions in DD 175, and my luist for eye candy, I am right on the edge of ordering a GTX 1060. Maybe today. Still debating whether 3GB or 6GB. ($65 difference.) I'm starting to wonder about a graphics card update myself. I think I'll wait for the next gen from nVidia (codename is "Volta") sometime Q2 of 2018 and see how prices are looking. I'd say go for the 6GB. In most "normal" games the extra video memory seems to matter very little, however, as you probably know flight sims aren't normal games at all. They do tend to suck up the resources. DCS and IL-2 will both likely use at least a good chunk of that memory! 1
Field-Ops Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 i7 3770k GTX 970 4Gb 32GB DDR3 RAM WD Black 2TB HDD Win10 I also have an SSD with 111GBs of space I planned to do a fresh install of the OS onto but i'm just too lazy to actually do it. I play on a 42in basic TV that hangs at around 59Ghz refresh rate (1080p, nothing fancy) and I get screen tearing without vsync but the card puts out 60 constantly and hardly dips unless I'm taxiing in a densely populated airfield. The TV also has its own "motion blur" effect.... probably just another refresh rate problem. The TV is likely to go on black friday if I find a good monitor. Been thinking of upgrading since everything except the vid card is about 5 years old but the thing doesnt slow down or BSOD so I dont wana mess that up.
ZachariasX Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 According to the Steam hardware survey, which apparently is something (some) developers look at when thinking about specs for their games, this is the breakdown of users' video card RAM: 1 & 2GB = total 55% 4GB = 15% 6GB & 8GB = total 10% Interesting. I think that makes sense. 1-2 GB is your typical outdated rig that still can handle W10. People who „just want to run a game“ keep that. 4 GB is the high end GFX card 6 years ago. But people buying such are among the smaller enthusiast segment and they tend to stay more up to date and change their GPU (or the whole rig) for the 6-8 GB cards, that now get as average gamer item. I‘m running an I7 4770K @ 4.4 GHz and a GF1080. Everything runs off SSD. Changed the 780Titan a while ago. Bsides the GPU, it is a 5 year old system. I‘ve built some more over the years, but so far, there was no need for an upgrade, as even with a 7700K, PCIe SSD etc, there is no felt increase in responsiveness in Windows, and performance increase is also just slightly over the measurement error. FPS whise on BoX (I don‘ do VR yet), everything maxed i get between 90 and 120 FPS on my 1440p EIZO screen. The gained 15% increase in FPS is lost anyway in the fast sync mode. On DCS, the GPU is maxed out (when everything in the gfx setting maxed). I would need a 1080Ti to get improvements there. But I‘d rather have the devs give their code some more love, that will help more. Once my addons run all in P3D v4, I may update/change my rig. But there is no rig yet that can run it with maxed out settings and P3D remain remotely playable. P3D v4 does multithreading. It will use all your cores. 18 or whatever you have. It also loves clockspeeds. The i9 7900X seems to do well there, giving actual purpose to it. Otherwise what Intel says is their „best“ CPU, the 8700K costs 1/3rd of the 7900X.
Fliegel Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) i5 - 4570 3.20Ghz Windforce GTX 770 2G 16G RAM 1600Hmz 8CL Windows 10 I play on Ultra. If rise FPS limit from 60 to 80 I have about 77-80 at 1000m with 10 planes as I've just tried. 56-65 at ground level. But there are some uncomfortable moments when fps drops radically for a second or two or in some situation (shadowplay shows about 40 but I feel like it was lover). Mainly when flying trough enemy bomber formation. I may consider to lower something a bit in the graphic option. Anyway, I still think that even 2G cards are still good for more than "just run a game" and I will rather consider new joystick (Saitek AV8R isn't that great) than a hardware. Edited October 15, 2017 by Fliegel
ZachariasX Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 2G cards are still good for more than "just run a game" Depends how you want to play. Antialiasing and screen resolution drastically increases needed frame buffer.
Guest deleted@30725 Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) I honestly looked at the minimum specs for DCS and built the machine accordingly a couple of years ago when I was a huge DCS fanboy. i5 4690k, budget kingston 16gb DDR3 ram, 250GB ssd, asus gtx 760 and a matx motherboard. 8GB ram just for il2 is overkill and I only get high use out of the RAM when I run multiple vms and for this I could really use 32GB. On the 760 the game still ran 60 fps average with high settings and the full AA. On bos there was some stuttering, but as the game was improved these went away. In MP it's good enough for the most part with the odd dip. In Il2 clod TF with a lot of planes using the 760 the frames drop below 30fps with obvious slow down. I decided to upgrade my 760 to a 1060 6gb recently so I could crank the game up to max and not worry about performance issues and make some massive battles in il2 clod. With the 1060 bos easily runs at a stated 100+fps (indicated) with shadows. I previously had the 760 paired with a amd athlon 965be and the cpu helped the frames a bit. I've read anecdotal evidence of people playing new games like the witcher 3 on newer dual core cpus and high level graphics cards well. Load times for il2 bos on a normal 72k rpm hard drive are not that bad and not a massive amount slower than on an SSD, but DCS the difference between SSD loads and HDD loads are significant. I've not tried on a 52k rpm drive such that you'll find in a lot of laptops. I've also added some settings in the nvidia control panel to get the game how I want it. For bos I would advise a decent graphics card and a dual core i3 or a quad core i5 for 1920x1080. Just remember when buying a laptop that a lot come with the I5u or i7u cpu you might not be getting a desktop quad core i5 or a desktop quad core i7 with hyper threading so do you're checking before you buy. I run the game from steam and a lesser issue is that the 1060 uses less electricity than the 760 that I had before. Edited October 15, 2017 by deleted@30725
Fliegel Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 Depends how you want to play. Antialiasing and screen resolution drastically increases needed frame buffer. AA at 4 is not a problem to me. I play on standart 1920x1080 resolution. But I've found that Shadow quality set on Ultra (from hight) is something that really take me about 30 fps, sometimes drop to 28 or so, which is not good. So there are (obviously) some limits. But it is not like I'm happy that it runs at least. I can afford most of the setting on the max.
Archie Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 i5 4690k / MSI Gaming 5 / 2 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix ram / Zotac AMP! 980Ti / 2 x 250 SSDs
Bullets Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 V Sync on so locked on 144hz , Details in sig
Hirachi Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2Ghz Quad Core, 32 GB DDR4 Ram, Nvidai GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB
Zippy-do-dar Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 AMD Phenom 2 x4 965 (BLACK) Gigabyte mother board GeForce GTX 970 8GB DDR3 SSD Samsung Evo 840 + Samsung 1TB drive Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit Antec gaming case Power supply 850w Originally built 2010 apart from ssd drive and various graphic card up grades
BeastyBaiter Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 CPU: Ryzen 5 1600x GPU: GTX 1080 TI RAM: 16GB DDR4 @ 2800MHz C: Drive: Samsung 960 Evo 500GB Motherboard: MSI B350 Tomahawk OS: Win 10 Home 64bit No performance issues on regular monitor at absolute max detail, would work with 120Hz monitor at 1440p if I had such a monitor (mine tops at 75Hz). Runs mostly 90 fps at "Balanced" detail in VR, 45 FPS at absolute max detail in VR.
Warpig Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) My 2012 build is still going strong on high settings. 60fps on 1920x1200 resolution. CPU: Intel i7 2600k (running at 3.8 GHz) RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz GPU: GTX 770 2048MB (Originally had a GTX 570 that died) Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z ROG Series SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB OS: Win 10 64bit My only regret is "upgrading" from Windows 7. Edited October 20, 2017 by Warpig
w00dy Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 My system spec is in my sig. Play on ultra settings at 1440p and runs really smooth, have no idea what fps I am getting as I have never looked
ZachariasX Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 My system spec is in my sig. Play on ultra settings at 1440p and runs really smooth, have no idea what fps I am getting as I have never looked Upper right corner of your screen?
Thad Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Salutations, My system details are listed in the signature below.
[TWB]80hd Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Hey, still have the email from the order... - 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700K Processor ( 8MB Smart Cache, 4.20GHz) - 15.6" Full HD IPS Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory [+$250.00] - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU [+$35.00] - Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled - 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 16GB [+$140.00] - 500GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD [+$225.00] - 500GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD - Slot 2 [+$325.00] - 1TB 7200rpm SATA3 Hard Drive - Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [+$15.00] LG 2560x1080 monitor (UWS is a pretty affordable boost for flight sims, imho) Oh, flight rig stuff HOTAS Warthog CH Pro Pedals (MFG's on the waaaaaaay!) TrackIR (UTC wireless from Mr Bartek 'HAV' Grala in Poland on the waaaaay) Just picked up some A50 wireless headphones, highly recommend Saitek Throttle Quad (If you own BoS, you can't afford not to get one of these) Also have an HTC Vive but I don't like how hard it is to ID planes in VR Edited October 16, 2017 by [TWB]80hd
IckyATLAS Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 CPU: i7 7820X CPU 3.6 GHZ RAM: 64 GB - 1600 MHZ GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti Disks: 2 x 1TB SSD + 1 x 8TB HDD Display: Asus Pro Art 32" 4K (3840 x 2160) OS: Windows 10 Pro Wheel Stand Pro for Hotas Thrustmaster Hotas Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Pedals Track IR 5
Godspeed Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I5-3570 GTX 1050TI 4GB 16GB 1600mhhz 250GB Samsung 840evo ssd (Win7 64bit) Benq 24 monitor 1920x1200 + Saitek avr8r-03 Joystick
w00dy Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Upper right corner of your screen? I checked last night, no fps counter in any corner.
ST_Pirato Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 i5 4690k slight OC to 4.4ghz EVGA GTX970 16GB at 1866mhz (I think) Display 27" 2560 x 1440 @144Hz and Gsync Crucial MX100 512GB SSD for OS and Games 1TB HDD for other stuff Windows 7 64bit aslong as it will last Pretty happy with the system,runs without any hickups for nearly 3 years. I rarely check the FPS,but when I do it's ranging from 70-144FPS. Pretty much on the highest settings.
ZachariasX Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 I checked last night, no fps counter in any corner. Try Backspace.
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