My online action good sportsmanship or nasty quitting?

[OrLoK]

Hello there

 

On Coconut's server yesterday I was flying a self imposed Ju52 para drop mission (as they are not yet scored)

 

En route to target I met a Mig 3 who engaged me rather furiously.

 

Now after a lengthy evasion/engagement he eventually had my middle engine out, my left engine damaged and all sorts of subsytems smashed to bits.

 

So, rather than bail out I thought Id try to save the life of me and my copilot (and pride) by landing in no man's land.

 

Still under attack I bumped down, came to a stop, switched of my engines (and waited until I was fully off) opened my "canopy" (tiny window) and ended the mission (15 sec count down)

 

Talking later to the said enemy pilot about the fun I had being in that situation, I felt as if I had done something wrong by simulating evacuating my plane rather than being a sitting duck.

 

Did I go against the spirit of online play by denying the chap a kill? Or was I justified in my actions?

 

i had oodles of fun but dont want to annoy my fellow players.

 

Thoughts?

 

Rgds

 

LoK

 

 

[56RAF_Roblex]

Of course not, especially if you waited until everything was shut down before leaving.  I would be out the moment I stopped moving and I think that reflects real life as well :-)     

 

Despawning while it is still sliding is a bit off but few people would make a fuss. Despawning mid air while under attack is bare-faced cheating!   We see way too much 'Oops my internet failed just before I hit the ground.'   Grrrr

 

ps  I don't think you denied him his kill.  Maybe it varies between servers but the in the servers I frequent,  crash landing while damaged gives a kill to the person who damaged you.

Edited October 5, 2017 by 56RAF_Roblex

[Herne]

You did well orlok.

 

I always kick myself whenever I come under attack while carrying bombs, I intend to drop my bombs and run for friendly territory but quite often, hit the eject button which is far too close to my bomb release on my throttle lol. 

Its exciting stuff, trying to be a pain in the ass target for your attackers

[Cpt_Cool]

You are already flying Ju52, no need to do him any more favors. And I dont mean to knock the ju52, it can be a blast to do exactly what you are doing. 

[xvii-Dietrich]

Still under attack I bumped down, came to a stop, switched of my engines (and waited until I was fully off) opened my "canopy" (tiny window) and ended the mission (15 sec count down)

 

Engines off? ... check.

Props stopped? ... check.

Airframe stationary? ... check.

Canopy* open? ...  check.

 

Yep... at this point, your pilot is out and running for cover. It is totally legit to end the mission (even more so if there is a 15-sec countdown).

 

 

 

 

* canopy is not just the tiny window, but also the main cargo doors on the back. In fact, if you were doing a paradrop, these are totally removed, if I recall correctly. Either way, you made an attempt to simulate egress from the wreck.

[Jade_Monkey]

Pfff you are worrying over nothing.

 

As a matter of fact, it is you DUTY to not get killed and land safely. You owe that to your team!

[Thad]

Yes, this is a simulation. As such, I think it should be participated in as realistically as possible. By that I mean "What would I actually do under this situation" in real life. Then do it.

Edited October 5, 2017 by Thad

[OrLoK]

Thanks, Guys n gals!

 

I was a little unsure of the etiquette that's in vogue nowadays. I try to be fair, even if it puts me at a disadvantage.

 

S!

[Monkie85]

I'm just now getting into multiplayer and without teamspeak I must be missing a lot. Is there a decent guide to newbies on multiplayer basics?

[CIA_Yankee_]

Yeah, that sounds completely legit. If you landed, and could have reasonably evacuated your aircraft, there's nothing wrong in exiting the flight. You are under no obligation to sit in your stationary aircraft waiting for death. When does it end, after all? Depending on where you land, you could make the argument that 2 hours later another VVS pilot might spot your aircraft and finish the job.

[curiousGamblerr]

I'm just now getting into multiplayer and without teamspeak I must be missing a lot. Is there a decent guide to newbies on multiplayer basics?

 

The guide is...

 

1. Get teamspeak

2. Start flying with people and you will learn all you need to know 

 

I'm being snarky, but truly, it's that simple. Good luck! 

 

On the topic of the thread, sounds like you did nothing wrong OrLoK.

[Ribbon]

As soon plane stoped your pilot and crew jumped out and searched cover.

In that situation neither full engines shutdown nor canopy matters.

[Gambit21]

OrLok if everyone was as conscientious the online world would be a better place than it currently is.

[OrLoK]

OrLok if everyone was as conscientious the online world would be a better place than it currently is.

awwww *blush*

[Y-29.Silky]

Did I go against the spirit of online play by denying the chap a kill? Or was I justified in my actions?

 

First of all, his accuracy isn't your fault.

Are you sure he didn't get credit for the kill?

Usually when you do enough damage to an engine, you'll get the kill credit.

I've flown all the way back to base and landed safely only to have a kill credited against me. As long as I don't get a credit for a death since my pilot didn't die, I don't see a reason to care.

 

Regardless, this is all immersion, which is needed more online.

[OrLoK]

I dont think he did but i cant be sure one way or the other.

 

He was a challenge but i was throwing that bird around like a loony and even dischaging flares to try to distract him.

 

Dont think it worked!

 

Still i did land in my territory (i think)

 

Luck was on my side that day rather than skill i think!

Edited October 6, 2017 by OrLoK

[56RAF_Roblex]

If I am losing a fight and my engine dies or I lose so many control surfaces that I can no longer dodge so will die very soon,  I will belly land on the ground quickly then get out as soon as I stop.  Some may not like that, they wanted me dead or wanted to see a fireball, but they will get a kill and I will keep my streak.  Besides,  I could just jump instead and they would be happy that they must have made my aircraft 100% unflyable but I always prefer to land rather than bail wherever possible. To be honest I think it makes me feel that I have salvaged something back from my defeat not having to watch my aircraft crash & explode and not giving him a fireball to gloat over :-)

[Flitgun]

Nothing wrong with that OrLoK. We've all got our own opinions on what constitutes bad sportsmanship and desired player etiquette, but someone else complaining about you landing a damaged plane wherever you can is just silly.

[OrLoK]

Oh, there wasnt any actual angst but from the ingame chat i got the impression that the enemy pilot was a bit miffed at my actions.

 

I could be wrong!

[Inkophile]

You just bruised his ego because he wanted the kill. You did the perfectly correct thing, and if anything I'd say he's a kind'a crappy shot for not managing to bring down your Ju 52 proper.

[[CPT]CptJackSparrow]

OrLok if everyone was as conscientious the online world would be a better place than it currently is.

What he said.

[Ribbon]

In my squadron rule is if you disabled enemy for furher fight/flight so he is badly smoking (all engines), disengage and preserve your ammo and regain energy as quick is possible.

In the spirit of ww2 pilots goal is to destroy/disable enemy not to kill him.

I like to see pilot survived when i shot him down and plane kill count still gets me +1.

[OrLoK]

I know its only a game but i like to count out enemy parachutes to know they've survived.

[Trooper117]

OrLoK, who cares what others think, at the end of the day it's your game and you should play it as you see fit.

You didn't intend any kind of injustice, you had good fun, and more importantly, you tried to make it seem as real as you could make it (for you) ...

 

I don't do a lot of online flying, but when I do the whole focus for me is trying to be realistic, trying to achieve mission goals, and most of all trying to get back alive... I don't give a hoot about kills or scoring. It's realism, but also the fun and enjoyment part is important too