What happened to the Leopard skin?

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Where did the Leopard skin for the F4 go? I kinda liked that one and now the only winter skin we have is plain white. Anyone know why it was removed?

[LLv24_Zami]

Where did the Leopard skin for the F4 go? I kinda liked that one and now the only winter skin we have is plain white. Anyone know why it was removed?

It's gone? I liked that one

[Cybermat47]

Look here: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/31249-official-skins-deleted-update/

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

that's unfortunate. I quite like the new ones as well. Would be nice if the 15 skin limit for official ones could be upped.

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Would be cool to have something like clod where you can select the basic camo and then overlay the unit insignia and Bort numbers etc.

[Finkeren]

I have to admit, that I never liked that skin. Those spots just didn't look right on a 109.

[Aap]

Would be cool to have something like clod where you can select the basic camo and then overlay the unit insignia and Bort numbers etc.

 

Indeed. It was like that in the old IL2 1946 already. I have made a request for it in the appropriate thread also, but no reply so far. Hopefully they are able to get that done at some point.

 

 

When it comes to skins, I just want 'basic' ones; what I mean is I don't want to be dressed as a particular ace with a tail full of kills, but I just want a range of realistic camouflage/colours as they would have been supplied and that match the map colours if possible! Maybe squad badges etc. But not individual pilot distinctive customisations. But of course we don't have the individual numbers ability on the developer skins unfortunately, which limits 'basic' skins somewhat.

 

Fully agree. If there are 15 official skin slots available, I think something like 12 of them should be more of the generic type and maybe 3 ace-specific skins. All the other famous ace skins could by custom skins made by skinners. 

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

I have to admit, that I never liked that skin. Those spots just didn't look right on a 109.

 

Yeah I wasn't a fan either. 

[Cybermat47]

I have to admit, that I never liked that skin. Those spots just didn't look right on a 109.

 

Yeah I wasn't a fan either.

Don't let anyone from JG 27 hear you say that

 

[Finkeren]

Those are just freckles from being left out in the sun too much.

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Ehh I've always been more of a fan of the more improvised or dirtier looking aircraft as far as 109 paint schemes go. A lot of the really late war 44/45 ones are pretty cool.

[Trooper117]

I have to admit, that I never liked that skin. Those spots just didn't look right on a 109.

 

Ahem...

 

 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

Would be cool to have something like clod where you can select the basic camo and then overlay the unit insignia and Bort numbers etc.

They asked Jason about that feature in one of the two Q&A sessions he made and i cant recall the exact answer but it was not going to be implemented any time soon. I'm not sure if it was a resources issue or a technical incompatibility.

[Hoss]

Those are just freckles from being left out in the sun too much.

LOL............ more like Melanoma.

[Royal_Flight]

I would far rather have basic skins with different camo options, and a setting to add squadron codes as well as appropriate national insignia (so no British La-5, but German or Hungarian Stuka, for example).

 

Hopefully we get that option at some point, CLoD and '46 were much more open in that regard. If this is possible though I don't know.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

It's a graphics engine limitation, not a design decision.

 

I like the skins as they are - two or three standard camos and the finer flavours of specific aircraft to show possible but less common variations or honour aces.

[707shap_Srbin]

Leopard skin was deleted, because it was totally unhistorical.

 

1. There were no such dotted camouflage on Bf109F-4. I dont know even one photo of that style of camouflage.

 

2. Skin was painted as official for Bf109F-4, because of ill-painted color profile, purposed to Devs in the start of development of game. But that color profile showed a Bf109G-2, not F-4! 

 

3. Conserning on that profile:

 

 

 

It was an aircraft of Fw.Rudi Muller, 6./JG5. Built as Bf109G-1, it was later rebuilt into Bf109G-2/R6 Trop, and had tropical camouflage. When it came to II./JG5, additional spots of RLM74 and white finish were added, giving very unique camouflage.

 

 

 

 

 

So, "Leopard" skin was not deleted - it was relocated to Bf109G-2. Look on Dobrich's skin., Yellow 10.

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2017 by I./ZG1_Panzerbar

[MrNoice]

SWASTIKA UNDER SPOILER PLEASE.

 

are we in silly germany ? ;D

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

No, we're in a forum with rules meant to cover all countries.

[LLv24_Zami]

Cut the crap, let's focus on the skins.

 

Thanks for the explanation Panzerbar! Although I liked the fictional leopard skin, it's not a big deal if it's gone. Lot's of great skins to choose from, there are no bad ones among them

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

I get it. I figured something like that was the reason. Still liked it though

[Finkeren]

Thanks for the explanation Panzer. It makes total sense, and the "replacement" skin for the G2 is a lot more interesting.

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

It's a graphics engine limitation, not a design decision.

 

I like the skins as they are - two or three standard camos and the finer flavours of specific aircraft to show possible but less common variations or honour aces.

 

I think there should be a workaround in the future. For example if sometime we get a Hurricane or a P-36 which participated in both sides, we should get some way to specifiy default skins by the mission designer, or as it is currently done with modifications, allow/forbid some of them. This would also help the people that want to use custom skins in winter maps, as currently it will show the standard grey/green skins for all of the other players that don't have the selected custom skin.

Edited September 23, 2017 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[BMW801]

I agree with the official skins being more generic than specific for given aces or experte.

My flying is an embarrassment to the memory of those guys whose planes I fly

[SYN_Luftwaffles]

I hate to hear that. I just noticed tonight and went to the forums. Heinrich Ehrler was one of my favorite skins (and diecast models   )

 

[Necrobaron]

But of course we don't have the individual numbers ability on the developer skins unfortunately, which limits 'basic' skins somewhat.

 

 

Wow, really? Delving into the sim more, I'd noticed the lack of numbers in some of missions and found it odd but didn't realize there was some limitation involved. If I'm understanding correctly, that seems like a fairly major ability not to have? I thought the original IL-2 handled it pretty well. The 15 skin limit is surprising as well.

 

I do agree that I'd like to see a bigger variety of appropriate "generic" skins in the mix of specific "famous" skins.

[OrLoK]

We know the ability to customise the skins has been looked into by the devs but it isnt a quick or easy fix.

 

For me, the 15 skin limit is fine but as with all of us, itd be nice to have more!

[Finkeren]

It's one of those things I really hope they can solve somewhere down the line. 

 

By now I have sort of learned to live with it, but the inability to distinguish one comrade from another during SP, is one of those things I can't help but find annoying. 

[Necrobaron]

Yeah, I'm finding that to be the case as well. Seems like something a concerted effort should be put toward correcting. I'd be curious to know what the limitation is that precludes it from being a relatively simple thing to accomplish. In the original IL-2 the unit and national markings were just an additional layer over whatever skin you chose but of course the graphical fidelity of this current gen is lightyears beyond that now. Very beautiful.