Mountain bombing

[1./KG4_OldJames]

Not sure where to put this thread, so here will have to do.

 

Recently I had a target to bomb on a Kuban server (KG4) and it was on the side of a mountain. I wanted to try level bombing the target but unless someone did a physical reconnaissance there was no way I could determine the target's altitude. Apart from dive/slope bombing, what is the solution? Apparently, when making the map, there is not a way to tell what the altitude of the target is so the altitude can't be marked on the map either.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

When in flight, there is indeed no way to tell at which alt is the target aside from a reconnaissance flight prior to the bombing run.

In the Editor though, look in the object properties window, the Y coordinate is the altitude of that object above sea level. 

[Shepherd]

Hmmm... Have you tried Google Earth at least for a rough estimation? I think the basic shape of the terrain did not change much since the last 70 years...

[216th_Jordan]

Apparently, when making the map, there is not a way to tell what the altitude of the target is so the altitude can't be marked on the map either.

 

The map maker knows the height of the target with centimeter accuracy, all that is needed to put this info into the mission objectives tab. 

[ZachariasX]

Level bombing over high mounain ranges... no way. It might work in the game, but if it does it is far from realistic.

 

It not just the problem about the target altitude, your own altitude will vary as well. Air pressure layers are not horizontal. You altimeter wil be incorrect. Radio altimeter will not help you in this terrain. Any attack will be more like a strafing run, taking into account the weather. You might even want to try to start an avalanche, it might be much more deadly than your little bombs.

 

In reality, WW2 planes are not powerful enough to excape a stupid situation you might bring yourself in to. In Switzerland, we have a constant death toll throughout the year. Every month or so a plane gets whacked in the mountains. Anything between a glider and an F-18 gets his. All the time. Hoping for accurany in level bombing from, say, 6000 m, considering winds and weather is just fantasy.

 

Also keep in mind, for AAA sitting on mountains, at 6000 m you're only 3000 m away from them. If you think for one second, that you could line up with your imporant target flying at hight up a valley in a way that you can see it in time, then you are fighting a country that is not at war with you.

 

But if you are given a great plane and you can do your hobby financed by the taxpayer, here you go, these were the glory days:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[1./KG4_OldJames]

I was describing a scenario where the target was only 2 or 3 hundred meters high, but F/JG300_Gruber has the answer I need, i.e. get the mission writer to put the info on the map/briefing screen.

[JaffaCake]

It not just the problem about the target altitude, your own altitude will vary as well. Air pressure layers are not horizontal. You altimeter wil be incorrect.

 

 

 

Why would the air pressure levels be different over mountains? I'd like to have perpetual device made out of mountain please.

[ZachariasX]

Why would the air pressure levels be different over mountains? I'd like to have perpetual device made out of mountain please.

Isobars typically rise towards larger mountain formations. They are not horizontal. This means you will be higher over the mountains than indicated on your altimeter with the originally set QNH. You might be off 100 m if you‘re unlucky. No perpetual device needed. Normal weather will do it for you.

[IckyATLAS]

Level bombing over high mounain ranges... no way. It might work in the game, but if it does it is far from realistic.

 

It not just the problem about the target altitude, your own altitude will vary as well. Air pressure layers are not horizontal. You altimeter wil be incorrect. Radio altimeter will not help you in this terrain. Any attack will be more like a strafing run, taking into account the weather. You might even want to try to start an avalanche, it might be much more deadly than your little bombs.

 

In reality, WW2 planes are not powerful enough to excape a stupid situation you might bring yourself in to. In Switzerland, we have a constant death toll throughout the year. Every month or so a plane gets whacked in the mountains. Anything between a glider and an F-18 gets his. All the time. Hoping for accurany in level bombing from, say, 6000 m, considering winds and weather is just fantasy.

 

Also keep in mind, for AAA sitting on mountains, at 6000 m you're only 3000 m away from them. If you think for one second, that you could line up with your imporant target flying at hight up a valley in a way that you can see it in time, then you are fighting a country that is not at war with you.

 

But if you are given a great plane and you can do your hobby financed by the taxpayer, here you go, these were the glory days:

 

 

 

 

 

Perfectly right. And if you consider weather with high temperatures, then with piston and propeller powerplants you are even in a worse situation as lower density air will impact negatively your power rating and your wing lift factor as well as the propeller traction force. If you have your piston assisted by a turbocompressor it will help you a little, but escape margins are low. So combining very hot weather and altitude are killer combinations that are typical in Switzerland in summer time, and many private pilots and their passengers pay the price.

[Gambit21]

Conveniently, mountain bombing is done the same way as bombing over the ocean.

Bomb is flown down the target's throat.

 

Find mountain, find target, repeat.

[ZachariasX]

Conveniently, mountain bombing is done the same way as bombing over the ocean.

Bomb is flown down the target's throat.

 

Find mountain, find target, repeat.

That's the sport. And you can do it because the Caucasus from back then is lot infested with cables as most mointains are today. No need for barage balloons when you have a ski lift.