Official skins deleted by update

[Cybermat47]

So, the latest update bought along a great new selection of skins for the Bf-109 F-4 and Ju-87 D-3, but it also seems to have deleted some of the official skins, two of which are personal favourites of mine:

 

 

Would we be able to see these skins returned in the next update?

[A-E-Hartmann]

Try to ask if someone can make you do the skins.

[bzc3lk]

Hi Cybermat, Could you empty your PM box.

 

[Cybermat47]

Hi Cybermat, Could you empty your PM box.

 

 

 

Done

[unreasonable]

That is odd. I have a question about deleted skins: if you have a track that used a non-default official skin, when the skin is then deleted in an update does that mess up your track? Or does the plane that used the skin then appear in the track as default?

 

(I would check with a custom skin but pushed for time....)

[InProgress]

Yea i had feeling that something is missing It's really weird that they removed it.. why not just add more instead of replacing some of them.

[Cybermat47]

Yea i had feeling that something is missing It's really weird that they removed it.. why not just add more instead of replacing some of them.

Agreed. I love the new skins, but there's no reason to get rid of the old ones.

[707shap_Srbin]

So, old skins were better then new? 

Only 15 skins are possible for each aircraft. So, it was decided to update some of them.

 

Ju87D-3:

T6+AN was replaced with T6+AC of Ernst Kupfer

 

Bf109F-4:

Yellow 8 was replaced with Yellow 1 of Hermann Graf. Much more colorfull figure.

 

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

Edited September 17, 2017 by I./ZG1_Panzerbar

[Cybermat47]

So, old skins were better then new?

I never said that.

 

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

Mate, I was just asking why the skins were replaced. I like the new skins, as I said in the first post. Stop putting words in my mouth.

 

I like your work, I think your skins are amazing. But that doesn't give you a free pass to be rude.

 

Only 15 skins are possible for each aircraft. So, it was decided to update some of them.

That's the sort of answer I was looking for, thank you.

Edited September 17, 2017 by FFS_Cybermat47

[Trooper117]

 

 

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

 

 

As much as I like your effort and input on the skins front, there was absolutely no need for that juvenile statement mate... stop acting like a precious luvvy.

[A-E-Hartmann]

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

 

Do not worry, we love your work.  

The skins are very good.  

 

I do not see or is the problem that the skins is no longer in games.

If people want old Skins, they make a request to skinners.

There will be someone to do them.

Edited September 17, 2017 by A-E-Hartmann

[Cybermat47]

I do not see or is the problem that the skins is no longer in games.

If people want old Skins, they make a request to skinners.There will be someone to do them.

Never said there was a problem, just wanted to know what had happened.

[unreasonable]

That is odd. I have a question about deleted skins: if you have a track that used a non-default official skin, when the skin is then deleted in an update does that mess up your track? Or does the plane that used the skin then appear in the track as default?

 

(I would check with a custom skin but pushed for time....)

 

Well I have found out the answer. If you record a track with a custom skin and then swap out that skin for a new one with the same name - the new skin appears in the track.  Which IMHO is a good thing.  Ideally the default skins would be available somewhere as dds files we can copy - without changing what is default in the game, so that people could load them as custom skins with a new name. 

[TG-55Panthercules]

 Ideally the default skins would be available somewhere as dds files we can copy - without changing what is default in the game, so that people could load them as custom skins with a new name. 

 

Well, the default skins appear to be contained in various .gtp files, and can be extracted from them using the same unGTP utility that worked for RoF.  So, if anybody still has a backup copy of BoS from before these latest updates, presumably the skins that were replaced could be extracted from the old .gtp files in that version. (They appear to no longer be in the latest set of .gtp files, which would make sense given that they were removed to make room for the newer skins noted above).

[A-E-Hartmann]

Well, the default skins appear to be contained in various .gtp files, and can be extracted from them using the same unGTP utility that worked for RoF.  So, if anybody still has a backup copy of BoS from before these latest updates, presumably the skins that were replaced could be extracted from the old .gtp files in that version. (They appear to no longer be in the latest set of .gtp files, which would make sense given that they were removed to make room for the newer skins noted above).

Skins can no longer be extracted with GTP.  

It's already been a while that is the case.

[Danziger]

So, old skins were better then new?

 

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

Definitely no need for that kind of attitude.

 

Nobody said or implied anything that would impugn the greatness of your skinning ability. People simply want to have all skins possible.

 

Skins are like porno videos. You download every single one good or bad even if you know you're never going to use it.

[TG-55Panthercules]

Skins can no longer be extracted with GTP.  

It's already been a while that is the case.

 

Hmm - I just did it tonight before posting above, and it seemed to work just fine (didn't try all 3 skins gtp files, just the first one, but I wound up with a bunch of skins for several plane types that sure looked like the official skins).  But even after renaming them I can't get the BoS viewer to show them, so I guess you're right that they've done something to render them unusable. Weird.

[=SqSq=Sulaco]

Dont like new skins? Ok, I'll stop paint them. No new skins from me.

 

Your skins are great but this type of melodramatic response is uncalled for and in all honesty casts a shadow over all of the good work you've already put out.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Your skins are great but this type of melodramatic response is uncalled for and in all honesty casts a shadow over all of the good work you've already put out.

Artists

[=SqSq=Sulaco]

Artists

Ha! You're telling me, I've got over 10 years of ad agency Art Direction under my own belt!

 

Irony?

Edited September 21, 2017 by Y-29.Sulaco

[BlitzPig_EL]

Wait, only 15 skins are possible?

 

Really?

[Feathered_IV]

Wait, only 15 skins are possible?

 

Really?

 

Sounds like one of Albert's design decisions.     

[III/JG2Gustav05]

So, the latest update bought along a great new selection of skins for the Bf-109 F-4 and Ju-87 D-3, but it also seems to have deleted some of the official skins, two of which are personal favourites of mine:

 

 

 

 

Would we be able to see these skins returned in the next update?

I am sorry that I did not keep your favorite Grislawski skin in the pack. But I think there has another one in the pack, flown by Trubenbach, the commander of JG52 is pretty simliar to this replaced one.

moreover I made this Grislawski custom skin long time before. this the link. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13720-bf-109-f4-skins/?p=315610

[707shap_Srbin]

 

 

But I think there has another one in the pack,

Griwlawski - Yellow 8, 9./JG52. Only reference sourse - 1 photo of right side of aircraft, in bad quality. No any victory bars, nothing.

Graf - Yellow 1, 9./JG52. Reference sourse - over 10 photos of aircraft, from all angles, with good quality and detail, giving possibility to paint as much closer to original as possible. Also, >100 victory bars and Graf's emblem on left side. Grislawski had no victory bars and emblems. 

[MrNoice]

can someone explain why its only possible to use 15 skins ?

[Luger1969]

The new F4 skins are great. Beiswenger Gollob etc. I hope we can also have an e7 revisit. If anyone wants the old skins pm me please.

[Lusekofte]

can someone explain why its only possible to use 15 skins ?

Well that goes for custom skins you can always add some in the other skinfolder