Fairly realistic values for Mission Building

[SCG_Schneemann]

At the risk of being way out of whack on some of these  , I quickly researched values for gun ranges/cheatsheet for sizes/anything else I could think of to help me, and hopefully someone else, in creating missions... I hate having to click on a vehicle just to see what it is, then know nothing about it. So, here is my take on making this easier for all of us.

 

The gun information is from Wikipedia for the most part, while the aircraft speeds for cruise were me jumping in to a quick mission, setting what I thought were cruise settings, diving or climbing, then hitting autopilot to get a set elevation at around 2km, and letting things stabilize. Bombers are with no bombs, so knock off 25kph or so for loaded planes, and gun ranges are probably maximum, so maybe 1/2 of the distance is what they really would fire at, especially direct fire. MC202, Ju52 and Yak7 are total WAGs, based on what I could find (I don't have these planes).

 

Please feel free to comment/critique/correct if something doesn't look right... after all, it is to help everyone with sort of realistic speeds for waypoints and ranges.

 

Germany:                                                                                            Russia

 

AA:                                                                                                      AA:

FLAK 36/37– 88mm (14km, 8km)                                                       52-K – 85mm (15km, 10.5km)

FLAK 38 – 20mm (5.5km, 2.2km)                                                       61-K – 37mm (9.5km, 6.5km)

MG34-aa – HMG                                                                                72-K – 25mm (5km, 2km)

                                                                                                           Maksim4-aa – HMG

 

ARTY:                                                                                                 ARTY

LeFH18 – 105mm (10km­)                                                                  M-30 – 122mm (11.5km)

Sdkfz251 w/Wurfrahmen 40 – (2km)                                                 ML-20 – 152mm (17km)

                                                                                                           ZIS3 – 76mm (13km)

                                                                                                           BM13 Katyusha rocket – 8.5km

 

AT:                                                                                                      AT

Pak 35 – 37mm (5.4km)                                                                    53-K – 45mm (4.4km)

Pak 38 – 50mm (3km)                                                                       ZIS2 – 57mm (8km)

Pak 40 – 75mm (1.5km)

 

MG:                                                                                                    MG:

MG34 - HMG  (4.7km)                                                                       DShK –HMG (2.0km)

 

Aircraft cruise speeds:

Bf109E/F/G (‘40-‘41/’41-‘42/’42-‘44) – 450 kph                                 LaGG3 (‘40-‘44) – 350 kph

FW190A3/A5 (‘42-‘43/’43-’44) – 475 kph                                          Yak1 (‘40-‘44) – 350 kph

Ju87 (’36-’45) – 270 kph                                                                    La5 (‘42-‘45) – 400 kph

Ju88 (’39-’45) – 375 kph                                                                    i16 (‘34-‘42) – 350 kph

He111H6/H16 (’41-‘43/’42-’44) – 300 kph                                         P40 (‘42-‘44) – 370 kph

Ju52 (’32-’45) – 190 kph                                                                    Il2 (‘41-‘45) – 300 kph

Hs 129 (’42-’45) – 250 kph                                                                Pe2 (late ‘41 – ‘45) – 350 kph

Bf110E/G (’40-‘42/’43-’45) – 375 kph                                                MiG3 (‘41-‘45) – 350 kph

Mc202 (’42-’43) – 425kph                                                                 Spitfire (‘43-‘44) –430 kph

                                                                                                          Yak7 (‘43-‘45) – 425 kph

                                                                                                          P39 (‘43-‘45) – X kph

                                                                                                          A20b (‘43-‘45) – X kph

 

Vehicle top speeds

Horch 830 staff car – 110 kph                                                           Gaz M staff car – 100 kph

Ford G917 truck – 80kph                                                                  BA64 AC – 55 kph

Opel Blitz truck – 80kph                                                                    BA10m – 53 kph

SdKfz10 HT – 65kph                                                                        GAZ-AA truck – 80 kph

SdKfz251 HT – 52 kph                                                                     ZIS 5 truck – 55 kph

Pz38t light tank – 42 kph                                                                  BM13 rocket launcher – 50 kph

PzIII medium tank – 40 kph                                                              BT7M light tank – 70 kph

PzIV medium tank – 42 kph                                                              T70 light tank – 45 kph

Marder III TD – 42 kph                                                                      T34 medium tank – 53 kph

StuG III AG – 40 kph                                                                         KV1 heavy tank – 38 kph

 

*** Edited to include vehicle speeds *** 20170911

*** Added service dates to aircraft *** 20170913

*** Added MG info, revised Ju87 AI speed *** 20180118

Edited January 19, 2018 by 1./JG54_Schneemann

[Thad]

Salutations,

 

Here is basically what I have been referring to in my mission building.

 

I obtained the basic file from somewhere on these forums and then added some information I later gleaned from a wiki page.

 

 

Ground equipment ranges.

Of course, nothing can really be set in stone with this information.

[NETSCAPE]

Welp max AI speed for Stuka is 270kph, that's regardless of loadout... it's a shame. My campaign has long flight times and I'm sure some won't like it for that reason. 

 

You forgot rockets, off the top of my head:

 

Wurfrahmen 40 "Nebelwerfer" = 2000m

BM-13 "Katyusha" = 8500m

 

This game has such large maps, we need some rail guns and "bullet cam"

 

edit: derp. I didn't click on Thad's image post.

Edited September 8, 2017 by NETSCAPE

[SCG_Schneemann]

No worries, updated the original. Will keep revising when necessary. Too bad on the Stuka - I fly it ALOT and regularly get way over that with the right trim.

 

Anyway, this is meant to give people half a shot at fairly realistic values instead of hunting around for them or making them up, if desired. Thanks for the input. Sort of close to Thad's  

Edited September 8, 2017 by 1./JG54_Schneemann

[NETSCAPE]

No worries, updated the original. Will keep revising when necessary. Too bad on the Stuka - I fly it ALOT and regularly get way over that with the right trim.

 

Anyway, this is meant to give people half a shot at fairly realistic values instead of hunting around for them or making them up, if desired. Thanks for the input. Sort of close to Thad's

 

Of course the PLAYER can cruise much faster than 270kph. It's the AI that is coded to not go over 270kph... 

[Gambit21]

Great resource!

[SCG_Schneemann]

Updated...

[II./JG1_Kliegmann]

I am creating a Flames of War-like tournament mission for our squadron, so I have been studying, and looking up the ranges for the guns.

 

Just my 2 cents the maximum effective range of the MG 34 is 4700m, and the DSHK is 2000m.  The Pak 35 max range is as you listed, but "Effective range" is no greater than 400-600m, and even at those short ranges, they still bounce off anything but a BT-7

Edited September 25, 2017 by II./JG1_Kliegmann