Brrrrt! (Hs-129 appreciation post!)

[LuftManu]

Well, since many of us know (I hope) the characteristic sound of the 30mm of the A10 Gun, lets make something out of the Hs-129

 

As a ground-pounder-lover I am really in love with this plane. It is slow, it is heavy, it is ugly.. it is perfect!

 

The Ground attack characteristics are really good, despite of a low speed, the handling and aiming is really good. The armor will protect your aircraft really well agains air threats and the firepower is good enough to take out enemies.

 

You can really trust on its forward view to spot vehicles and the visibility is really good, although you must carry a mirro if you want to see your back

 

The 30mm is a tricky weapon but with a good angle, you can smash almost everything.

 

Say hello to the Brrt Brrt Brrt!

 

 

Let´s see how other Hs 129 are doing!

Edited August 31, 2017 by LF_Shinji_Ikari

[LLv24_Zami]

I`m out of positive votes for today so 

 

Taking off to shoot some stuff:

[Cybermat47]

Managed to destroy 3 BT-7s with it in a quick mission, I'm in love with it already

[Dutchvdm]

I only had 2 or 3 flights in it, but it's definitely a plane with character. The only thing that i don't like is the fact that there is no way to only fire the 30 mm gun.

 

Grtz M 

[LLv24_Zami]

The only thing that i don't like is the fact that there is no way to only fire the 30 mm gun.

Not yet, but it`s coming.

[=ARTOA=Bombenleger]

Not yet, but it`s coming.

Has it been confirmed by the devs?

I thought they made it so because maybe in reality you couldnt fire it seperately, but if its just a bug im very happy!

[JtD]

It's not really a bug, the weapon selection simply worked differently. They were all fired using the same trigger, but you had switches to select the weapons you wanted to fire when pulling the trigger.

 

And you know the devs. I'm sure they'll fix it.

Edited August 31, 2017 by JtD

[kestrel79]

Love these "character" planes. Thanks for giving us another plane that isn't in every other sim, and at IL2's level of fidelity. Can't wait to fly!

[=ARTOA=Bombenleger]

It's not really a bug, the weapon selection simply worked differently. They were all fired using the same trigger, but you had switches to select the weapons you wanted to fire when pulling the trigger.

 

And you know the devs. I'm sure they'll fix it.

Thx for clarfying, I guess it would make sense to put MGs and 20mm cannons on fire group one and gun pods on fire group two then.

[Guest deleted@103832]

All I do with the BK 37-armed Stuka is crash, but with this baby I am unleashing some serious whoopass......

[Jaws2002]

Hs-129 is definitely superior to the Stuka G as ground attack aircraft. While the stuka can kill big tanks easier, the duck from hell has tons of ammo and can kill a lot more stuff. 

[Jade_Monkey]

I just did some quick n' dirty passes on boats and i noticed that it's really hard to pull out of a dive.

 

I wasnt being very cautious, but it really surprised me.

[InProgress]

I played with it in quick battle, it's easy to fly, quite stable but feels heavy, no dive bombing with it guns are nice, hard to kill some tanks even with many hits, to be good with it you need lots of training but it's really good vs light and medium tanks. Better than stuka with 37mm guns in my opinion. Cockpit feels small but visibility is really good, at least sides and front, behind only that mirror will tell you. Lack of tail gunner is meh...

 

You can also feel that engines are weak, plane is slow.. I can tell one thing, it would be blast vs ground targets (lots of ammo) in multiplayer if you have clear sky or strong cover. But since multi is madness where everyone fly everywhere and cover of fighters is harder to get than winning in lottery.. it's going to be trash :| Stuka is faster, more agile, smaller and has tail gunner. Hs129 has nothing... it's one way trip in multi, at least if you wont get coordination, if fighters will actually clear objective and few hs129 will get there then they can do some serious damage.

 

 

 

Hs-129 is definitely superior to the Stuka G as ground attack aircraft. While the stuka can kill big tanks easier, the duck from hell has tons of ammo and can kill a lot more stuff.

 

Can't agree :/ stuka won't kill as much as hs129 but stuka is quick strike style of aircraft, you can fly between aaa fire, drop bombs and fly away. Hs129 flying low with his guns is going to be easy target for AAA guns. But agree, it's epic aircraft if you have no enemy planes or aaa guns around it will be pleasure to play with it in carrier mode in single, for multi i dont see it as usefull (at least if people won't cooperate to cover it & if they will finally remove ACE aaa guns difficulty on WoL where you get 1 shot at 3000m and dead)

Edited August 31, 2017 by InProgress

[Jaws2002]

I was just comparing it with the G model.

[InProgress]

Ohh I was thinking about d3 with bombs, sorry well, that was the point, to make better tank destroyer. I like it way more than stuka with cannons, easier to aim, but you also waste lots of ammo while ju87 could shot 1 or 2 times and tank dawn.

Only guessing but 129 and 87 vs tanks only would be more less the same score but 129 vs other ground targets thanks to 20mm cannon. destructioooon :D

[Finkeren]

Haven't flown it much (3-4 sorties and 2 botched attempts at take off i QM) but it's certainly interesting.

 

A very nice gun platform with huge killing potential, especially against softer targets. A docile flier too which can be turned quickly enough around to fly circles around the flak.

 

I find that the plane itself is quite tough and the pilot superbly protected, but the engines are just as vulnerable as on any fighter, and since it really doesn't fly at all on one engine, I find it to have no better survivability than the Bf 110.

 

I tried the P-40 against it, and it did soak up those .50cals quite nicely, so the armour definately isn't complete waste.

[Swing]

the engines have an armor Finkeren   5 mm shielding

[Mesha44]

Anyone got tips for getting it off the ground, all I can do is ground loops.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Has it been confirmed by the devs?

I thought they made it so because maybe in reality you couldnt fire it seperately, but if its just a bug im very happy!

Yes, that will come later along with some other fixes.

[Yogiflight]

I pull back the stick and slowly increase throttle. That is what does the trick for me. But I also read from other guys, that they stand on the brakes, push the throttle forward and open the brakes, to let it start moving with full power.

[6./ZG26_Gielow]

Is it possible to feather the propeller ???

 

I have tried Ctrl + F and manual prop control and no success.

[pilotpierre]

Anyone got tips for getting it off the ground, all I can do is ground loops.

I find the following works for me

 

Take off flaps (35%)

Manual prop pitch around 0%

Hold brakes

Throttle to 85%

Hit boost and full throttle

Just small rudder correction during the take off run

Edited September 1, 2017 by pilotpierre

[Finkeren]

the engines have an armor Finkeren 5 mm shielding

I know, but I still found them far more vulnerable than the IL-2's engine.

[Mesha44]

I pull back the stick and slowly increase throttle. That is what does the trick for me. But I also read from other guys, that they stand on the brakes, push the throttle forward and open the brakes, to let it start moving with full power.

This seems to work, although I think I was pretty quick on the throttle.  Holding the stick back kept it straight and required almost no rudder input.  

 

Thanks everyone for the help.

[Matt]

Is it possible to feather the propeller ???

 

I have tried Ctrl + F and manual prop control and no success.

You first have to switch to manual prop and then ctrl+F. If you want to deactivate feathering, you only have to activate automatic prop control.

[6./ZG26_Gielow]

I think I didn´t tried that. I was trying Ctrl+F on auto mode or using the lever on manual  

 

You first have to switch to manual prop and then ctrl+F. If you want to deactivate feathering, you only have to activate automatic prop control.

Edited September 1, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Gielow

[katdog5]

this thing is a BEAST!   first flight and I knocked out 8 AAA ,  4 Arty,  and some trucks, then landed with probably have my ammo

 

NUTS!

Edited September 1, 2017 by katdog5

[katdog5]

this thing is a BEAST!   first flight and I knocked out 8 AAA ,  4 Arty,  and some trucks, then landed with probably have my ammo

 

NUTS!

oh and now I remember ... had a train and all the cars in there too.

[MAJ_stug41]

Anyone know what to run the engine at for cruise? Continuous by tooltip standard is only 52% throttle low, only 200 kph. Can it be run in combat mode indefinitely?

[JG4_dingsda]

Anyone know what to run the engine at for cruise? Continuous by tooltip standard is only 52% throttle low, only 200 kph. Can it be run in combat mode indefinitely?

Have a look at this post.

[LukeFF]

Anyone know what to run the engine at for cruise? Continuous by tooltip standard is only 52% throttle low, only 200 kph. Can it be run in combat mode indefinitely?

 

Max continuous is 2350 rpm at 1.1 ata. Cruise is 2050 rpm at 1.0 ata.

Edited September 2, 2017 by LukeFF

[Yogiflight]

The 52% for continuous is in automatic mode, you have to switch to manual prop pitch, because in auto your RPMs are to high.

[Lusekofte]

Why cant manual mixture and manual pitch using hotas be applied?

[Asgar]

Why cant manual mixture and manual pitch using hotas be applied?

both work fine for me. what are you doing?

[MAJ_stug41]

The 52% for continuous is in automatic mode, you have to switch to manual prop pitch, because in auto your RPMs are to high.

Ah, good to know, the rpms do seem far too high. 26k at half throttle, ha.

[Asgar]

read the specifications sheet 

[ShamrockOneFive]

Alright I just had a chance to really give the Hs129B-2 a workout and I'm loving it. It's just as much fun as I had with the Hs129 in IL-2: 1946 when they finally added it and I'm really really glad that they added it into the next gen IL-2. I was excited when it was announced but its great to finally see the payoff and be able to use the aircraft.

 

Its slow, its kind of an ugly duckling but I think its wonderfully fun to fly around. I busted up some light and medium tanks with it as well as artillery, cars, and trains and man its fun. No doubt one of the careers I will start is a Stalingrad to Kuban Hs129 squadron flying close support. Lots of fun to be had there.

[InProgress]

I was using it in quick mission, i took spitfire vs hs129 and i have feeling like hs129 is super easy to destroy. I dont know if it's game problem or it's actually realistic, but i was able to shoot off entire wing with just few shots, maybe less than a second of fire from 100m was able to shoot off wing. I did this over and over and over, it's just so easy to do it.

 

Anyone? realsitic or just too weak in game?

I have mixed feelings about being able to shoot off entire wing so easly in such a big plane. But who knows

[Finkeren]

The Spit is not a good choice to test durability. Those Hispanos will shoot through anything.

 

Try with the P-40. Those six .50cals normally shred anything they point at, but I found, that the Henschel actually soaked up several bursts that would have downed a Ju88 instantly.

[Blooddawn1942]

While it's a fun aircraft to fly with lots of killing capacity, it's terrible fragile and vulnerable. If you have bad luck, the first salvo of either ground fire or AC armament will blow you up. Happened to me several times.