Instead of another expansion can we get improved Wingman AI!?

[Fang333333]

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! If you want my average experience with this sims AI please watch 

and skip to around 15:57.

 

The wingman AI need a MAJOR overhaul guys...come on!!!! Wingmen;

-  Never follow any commands. I mean the whole command menu is useless.

-  Over half the time they breakoff even before the halfway point to pursue planes and never come back!

- Collide into me on the runway.

- Everything else I mention is livable if they at least STOP THE FAMOUS, OVER THE TOP, KILL STEALING. I mean this is really a deal breaker. My mission is almost always ruined when I am doing my thing, enjoying a dogfight only to have the AI swoop in and steal my kill. I mean this happens nearly every time! The problem is not only that they steal the kill, but they also leave me exposed so right after they steal my kill I GET SHOT DOWN!!! I cannot tell you how many times I have been shot at by my own wingmen, had them fly into me, have them steal my kill. I have literally had missions where all 4 happens to me. They swoop in, steal the kill, shoot at me, THEN COLLIDE into me! What's even crazier is how several wingman will leave all other enemies alone, only to focus on the single plane I am pursuing!!!!!!!!!!!! Its like a Beta demo mission out there.

      

        I know I am not alone in thinking "What's the use of purchasing another expansion campaign if the campaign mode is wrecked by terrible AI?" I have never seen a sim where the AI proactively commits itself to wrecking your mission.

       On a side rant I feel this is the flight sims biggest issue when it comes "expansions", "in-app purchases" etc. The developers will always focus resources on the latest expansion and put little to no effort on time consuming tasks such as overhauling AI. Just my opinion, but I cannot be the only person out there who thinks this when they see a sim "expanded" by the same developer who creates the sim.

 

Anyway...FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS HOLY please...tweak the AI....Even if you release a patch that just pretends to fix AI, release it. At least it will be a placebo. 

Edited August 19, 2017 by Fang333333

[LLv24_Zami]

AI has been tweaked and improved whole time. There are numerous patches with AI improvements within a year or so. It's not perfect but has gotten better, I've flown SP from the beginning. There is (always) need for improvement of course.

 

Couple of differences in your list compared to my experience though. I never get rammed by AI, not on ground or in the air. Also they don't steal my kills. I don't doubt your experiences but it just shows how different it can be.

 

The thing is, if there's no expansions etc to sell, there's no more AI or any development either. They are a small team, they don't have a guy solely focusing to AI programming. Make a bug report to the technical discussion pages, it's the best way to get heard.

[Thad]

Anyway...FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS HOLY, please don't over react to someone that has only two posts on our forums.

 

That being said, the games AI does need attention.

 

Example: I had two AI Bf 109 G-2s assigned to an Attack Area mission versus ground units. They dropped their bombs fine but when they ran out of bombs they made gun only attacks and proceeded to  senselessly fly themselves into the ground.

Edited August 20, 2017 by Thad

[LLv24_Zami]

Anyway...FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS HOLY, please don't over react to someone that has only two posts on our forums.

 

That being said, the games AI does need attention.

 

Example: I had two AI Bf 109 G-2s assigned to an Attack Area mission versus ground units. They dropped their bombs fine but when they ran out of bombs they made gun only attacks and proceeded to  senselessly fly themselves into the ground.

Can`t really see where I over reacted if you meant me 

 

And I don`t think it`s relevant how many posts he has in the forums. I think lots of people play the game as we do but don`t see the need to write on the forums. They deserve response as anyone 

 

AI has some problems, it`s good to have discussion and reports. For anyone experiencing weird things done by AI, please make bug reports to the appropriate forum: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/12258-autopilot-and-ai/page-4 . The more observations is reported, the better.

[Thad]

I was mocking the OP post... not referring to you Zami.

[LLv24_Zami]

I was mocking the OP post... not referring to you Zami.

Oh, my bad 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

It's true that AI department need to be looked at, be patient because of limited resources and other ongoing projects within are now developed. It make sense that without good AI no one be able to fully enjoy new carrier mode.

[Fang333333]

Not sure why I need to be mocked but I guess this is the customary things to do these days if you bring up any suggestions or issues. None the less I am surprised that some are reporting not having collision issues because I run across that many times as a complaint. The AI is just bad. Its not that I do not love this game, I obviously have AFFECTION for it if I have purchased everything content wise and preordered Kuban in the first few weeks of release. I am making suggestions because I know how things can slip under the radar with developers. It can be hard when you are not only dealing with 3 different releases but constantly adding things as well.

 

I certainly can have patience with this, as the game is pretty enjoyable as is. I just would like to see some AI work done in the future and I believe is being worked on as we speak.

 

Also, Only 2 posts???

And Zami thank you for your well thought out respectful replies.

Edited October 21, 2017 by Fang333333