Official TFS skin update for TF4.5, July 31 2017. Spitfire, Hurricane, Wellington

[major_setback]

Here are some of the new default skins that we hope to include in TF4.5

In today's update: Spitfire, Hurricane, Wellington.

 

Below are links to all the earlier TF4.5 skin updates that have been posted on forums elsewhere.

 

Due to file-size restrictions on the forum I'll post my screenshots as several consecutive posts, so please look beyond the first post.

 

 

Previous skin updates:

 

https://theairtactic...ead.php?t=25344

 

https://theairtactic...ead.php?t=25400

 

https://theairtactic...ead.php?t=25546

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30316-official-tfs-skin-update-tf45-july-25-2017/

 

 

Today's Update:

 

Shown are some skins with specific codes. These will also be included.These same camouflage colours will also be used on the new default skins (note that the Hurricane default skin will have a sky underside).

 

more to come ... see below

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Default Hurricane:

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Spitfire:

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Hurricane :

 

 

 

 

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Grey Green recon Spitfire (non functional camera, just painted onto the skin):

 

 

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Wellingtons (2 styles of camouflage, straight sided black demarcation with low placement on fuselage, and wavy demarcation higher up).

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[Danziger]

Bloody marvelous!

[smink1701]

Beautiful, especially the Spit

[76IAP-Black]

Realy like this game, seems i need to get the "Desert Fox" Patch from you guys!

[ACG_KaiLae]

Those 615 squadron skins are wrong. KW and then the aircraft code. You can see that here:

 

[major_setback]

Those 615 squadron skins are wrong. KW and then the aircraft code. You can see that here:

 

 

Yes, It seems I misunderstood the request for this skin at ATAG, (Here; you may have to log in to see it https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16820) Read post 8, it shows you are correct.

I'll see if I can change it before it is incorporated into the game.

It's strange no-one noticed it before. I first made this skin (with different colours) in 2015.

Thanks for the feedback.

Cheers, major_setback (TFS)

Edited August 1, 2017 by major_setback

[ACG_KaiLae]

No problem. Best found and fixed now, before it goes in. This will save you later from being called "wanker" multiple times by Daz  . In the future, 615 Squadron ACG is here to assist you if you have any questions 

 

http://www.aircombatgroup.co.uk/squadrons/no615.php

 

Edited August 1, 2017 by Kai_Lae

[ACG_Dickie]

I have a question or two MS.  If these are default skins why do they come with aircraft codes?  Should it not be a template skin which you apply in game letters on?  If that is the base skin then you will need one skin for every single aircraft letter AND each aircraft serial since these are applied by the game.  In any skins off server you will have double markings or everyone will turn off their markings but they will all have identical markings.  In a skins on server it won't matter, the skin will show.

 

The black and white underside was Battle of France and up to 6th June 1940 and then it was painted "Sky" (duck egg blue). The white tailband AND the black and white underside was a livery order from 27th Nov 1940.  Then in Feb 1941 when the order was reversed to repaint the underside Sky again.  Since the Sky tailband was applied in November 1940 and it was never removed then there are no examples of Sea Green and Grey livery without a Sky tailband and spinner, but you have it there and with a black spinner.  Likewise the brown and green livery ALL had black spinners, not Sky.  This applied to Spitfire and Hurricane btw, it was RAF fight livery orders.

 

For the sea green and grey livery the spinner was painted Sky and the 18 inch Sky tailband retained, an order on August 15th 1941.  Prior to that various combinations of blues, dark blues, greys and dark greys were used.

 

This information is available in Morgan and Shackleton's "Spitfire The History"

Edited August 1, 2017 by Osprey

[major_setback]

I have a question or two MS.  If these are default skins why do they come with aircraft codes?  Should it not be a template skin which you apply in game letters on?  If that is the base skin then you will need one skin for every single aircraft letter AND each aircraft serial since these are applied by the game.  In any skins off server you will have double markings or everyone will turn off their markings but they will all have identical markings.  In a skins on server it won't matter, the skin will show.

 

The black and white underside was Battle of France and up to 6th June 1940 and then it was painted "Sky" (duck egg blue). The white tailband AND the black and white underside was a livery order from 27th Nov 1940.  Then in Feb 1941 when the order was reversed to repaint the underside Sky again.  Since the Sky tailband was applied in November 1940 and it was never removed then there are no examples of Sea Green and Grey livery without a Sky tailband and spinner, but you have it there and with a black spinner.  Likewise the brown and green livery ALL had black spinners, not Sky.  This applied to Spitfire and Hurricane btw, it was RAF fight livery orders.

 

For the sea green and grey livery the spinner was painted Sky and the 18 inch Sky tailband retained, an order on August 15th 1941.  Prior to that various combinations of blues, dark blues, greys and dark greys were used.

 

This information is available in Morgan and Shackleton's "Spitfire The History"

 

There will be default skins without the codes, as I tried to explain in my first post: 'Shown are some skins with specific codes. These will also be included.These same camouflage colours will also be used on the new default skins (note that the Hurricane default skin will have a sky underside).'

The default skins will of course be without codes, and without roundels etc., though I thought it would be nice to add a few aircraft with codes as well. Depending on space, I hope to include versions with my own roundels as seen in the updates. Users can add their own codes to these. The present in-game roundels are far too colourful. They probably also load on top of the rivets and panel lines, making them look like vinyl mats.

 

I don't have any aircraft in this update with black and white underside, so I don't understand that point. Neither do I have a white tail-band. If you mean the photo recon spitfire then the band is sky coloured: See here http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/05/stuff_eng_profile_pr_spitfires.htm

Regarding your point about the sky band matched with black spinner I assume you are referring to the aircraft  as seen here: https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17731. As you can see my earlier version of the skin was correct.The half back underside is show in the pictures (by Kagero publishing), and I have assumed that is correct. I have forgotten to turn off a layer in Photoshop showing the black spinner. I will correct this. I put this error down to time constraints. I apologise if errors creep in. As I've explained on another forum, there has been very little time to prepare skins for TF4.5. Until recently the entire focus of TFS skinning was to produce desert skins for TF5. You will be getting quite a lot of new or updated skins with TF4.5 considering these limitations, and please remember that all work done by TFS is done in our spare time.

Thank you for the feedback and for pointing out the errors.

[Edit: DTH is shown here in this photo with a light coloured spinner:

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I go on a long holiday at the end of the week so excuse me if I don't get time to reply any more in this thread.

 major_setback (TFS)

Edited August 1, 2017 by major_setback

[major_setback]

Those 615 squadron skins are wrong. KW and then the aircraft code. You can see that here:

 

 

Please all, see my earlier reply. Strangely, the second photograph from the thread I linked to shows that the nose isn't black. So I'm not sure it is the same aircraft as in your photo:http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/local-news/world-war-ii-pilot-prevented-3914996

Edited August 1, 2017 by major_setback

[Jade_Monkey]

Nice! Very well done.They are looking better than BOS, as much as I dont like to admit it.

BOS needs to update the default skins to 4K and tweak some of the reflection effects.

[ACG_Dickie]

Thanks for your answers MS, I must've missed that part about default,  sorry about that.

 

You have these in the update with the black and white (Sky) underside, this is what I was referring to.  Indeed there was a short period over the winter when the B&W was painted with the tailband and spinner.

 

 

 

I get the black spinner problem, seen that before where the spinner changes colour when the engine is started.

 

Enjoy your holiday 

~S~

Edited August 3, 2017 by Osprey